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    #21
    hello, any idea when is the release date of the 2019 ciaz?

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    Malapit na bro, India and Indonesia have introduced the new Ciaz. Next month new Ertiga din. Basically bye bye k14b, hello k15b

    Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lin Dan View Post
    I wonder on why they still stick with 4 AT??
    Because it's already tried and tested. Reliable. For a 1.4L engine, 4AT tranny should suffice as it spreads good torque on all gears.

    Same with Honda's unchanged 1.5 engine(old but gold) shared across City, Jazz, BR-V and Mobilio. Why change it if it's working fine and delivers good output.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrickandrei01 View Post
    Because it's already tried and tested. Reliable. For a 1.4L engine, 4AT tranny should suffice as it spreads good torque on all gears.

    Same with Honda's unchanged 1.5 engine(old but gold) shared across City, Jazz, BR-V and Mobilio. Why change it if it's working fine and delivers good output.
    in my opinion, manufacturers are in a rush to put cvts in the showroom, "because that is what the customer is looking for".

    personally, between cvt and 4at, i'd get the 4at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrickandrei01 View Post
    Because it's already tried and tested. Reliable. For a 1.4L engine, 4AT tranny should suffice as it spreads good torque on all gears.

    Same with Honda's unchanged 1.5 engine(old but gold) shared across City, Jazz, BR-V and Mobilio. Why change it if it's working fine and delivers good output.
    True. The ertiga responds impressively when you push the "pedal to the metal". Our other suzuki apv 1.6 matic does not respond this way. Walang kick everytime you floor the pedal really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrickandrei01 View Post
    Because it's already tried and tested. Reliable. For a 1.4L engine, 4AT tranny should suffice as it spreads good torque on all gears.

    Same with Honda's unchanged 1.5 engine(old but gold) shared across City, Jazz, BR-V and Mobilio. Why change it if it's working fine and delivers good output.
    Don't forget the Civic and the Accord, it has the L15 engine also but with turbo

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrickandrei01 View Post
    Because it's already tried and tested. Reliable. For a 1.4L engine, 4AT tranny should suffice as it spreads good torque on all gears.

    Same with Honda's unchanged 1.5 engine(old but gold) shared across City, Jazz, BR-V and Mobilio. Why change it if it's working fine and delivers good output.
    thats 2ndary

    primary reason is manufacturing cost..

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    Susunod na Vitara nyan

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    i wonder,
    what are the ciaz's local sales figures,
    the vitara's sales figures,
    and the minicars' sales figures?

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    #31
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i wonder,
    what are the ciaz's local sales figures,
    the vitara's sales figures,
    and the minicars' sales figures?
    Ciaz 61 units for all of 2021
    Have to say, I hardly see any on the road.

    Source: Here is Suzuki PH’s per-model sales breakdown in 2021 | VISOR PH

    Carry – 3,804
    Dzire – 3,474
    S-Presso – 3,429
    Ertiga – 3,054
    Jimny – 2,477
    XL7 – 1,225
    Swift – 670
    APV – 583
    Celerio – 445
    Vitara – 140
    Ciaz – 61
    Super Carry – 31

    Agree with axing the Ciaz. Gastos lang sa kanila yun, nobody likes the car enough to actually buy it, and they end up having to stock parts and train their techs to support it.

    Vitara is a shell of its former self. Used to be a relatively small but utilitarian SUV with real 4x4 cred. Ginawang soft-roader. I agree they should just axe this model as well.

    Jimny OTOH is selling very well, only limited by the supply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Kamiya View Post
    Ciaz 61 units for all of 2021
    Have to say, I hardly see any on the road.

    Source: Here is Suzuki PH’s per-model sales breakdown in 2021 | VISOR PH

    Carry – 3,804
    Dzire – 3,474
    S-Presso – 3,429
    Ertiga – 3,054
    Jimny – 2,477
    XL7 – 1,225
    Swift – 670
    APV – 583
    Celerio – 445
    Vitara – 140
    Ciaz – 61
    Super Carry – 31

    Agree with axing the Ciaz. Gastos lang sa kanila yun, nobody likes the car enough to actually buy it, and they end up having to stock parts and train their techs to support it.

    Vitara is a shell of its former self. Used to be a relatively small but utilitarian SUV with real 4x4 cred. Ginawang soft-roader. I agree they should just axe this model as well.

    Jimny OTOH is selling very well, only limited by the supply.
    spresso selling that well!
    yet i see it only rarely...
    must be my neighborhood...

    whenever i pass by the suzuki casa along buendia corner bautista, the place looks deserted of humen...

    i almost bought a ciaz... changed my mind and got a used altis from a relative, instead.
    whew!

    heh heh.
    Last edited by dr. d; April 28th, 2022 at 10:46 PM.

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