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    Mga sir bakit kaya lagi nag babago alignment nung grace ko nag paalign ako sa Yokohama pro mga 2months na nag bago uli at na pudpod labas ng gulong bali 2 gulong sa harap ang ganun pinalitan na rin yung bolt dun sa lower suspension arm tsaka bushing pro ganun pa din

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    i can only suspect, that your ball joints and, perhaps the other components as well, are already worn... too much play siguro.. replace and align is my recommendation.

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    If you have the alignment reading printout it is the best info to make diagnosis even without looking at the car

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    Quote Originally Posted by sotel View Post
    Mga sir bakit kaya lagi nag babago alignment nung grace ko nag paalign ako sa Yokohama pro mga 2months na nag bago uli at na pudpod labas ng gulong bali 2 gulong sa harap ang ganun pinalitan na rin yung bolt dun sa lower suspension arm tsaka bushing pro ganun pa din
    Ipacheck mo kay Zafra at sabihin mo ang reklamo mo at kung ano ang dapat na papalitang parts, free naman ang check up sa kanila!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sotel View Post
    Mga sir bakit kaya lagi nag babago alignment nung grace ko nag paalign ako sa Yokohama pro mga 2months na nag bago uli at na pudpod labas ng gulong bali 2 gulong sa harap ang ganun pinalitan na rin yung bolt dun sa lower suspension arm tsaka bushing pro ganun pa din
    Yung Terrano ko ganyan din noon. Nung pinalitan lahat ng kailangan, dumeretcho takbo. Mahal lang nga.

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    The computerized alignment maybe:
    1-miscalibrated
    2-improperly used
    3-used by an untrained/incompetent mechanic


    Between the optical laser aligner and the computerized one, I still trust the optical laser over the fancy computerized system

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    Dapat ba 0 lagi camber? Last alignment ko kasi sinet sa 0.2 sabi niya ganun daw setting talaga. Normal driving condition ko nga lang pala gamit lagi

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    Quote Originally Posted by luis_ View Post
    Dapat ba 0 lagi camber? Last alignment ko kasi sinet sa 0.2 sabi niya ganun daw setting talaga. Normal driving condition ko nga lang pala gamit lagi



    Camber in most vehicles is set positive on the front wheels to offset the curvature of the road crown. Refer to the manufacturer's recommendation not the ganun talaga specs. For lack of information, knowledge and sometimes laziness, they use the ganun talaga specs

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    kung may makikita kayong toe and camber alignment tool na "bula", parehas sa mga level na gamit sa construction, mas maganda.

    sa south, meron nito, si JPWheels. (merong sila facebook para sa directions).

    sakin naman, hindi ko pinapa set sa zero o positive camber. lagi akong naka negative. mga -0.5 to -0.8 degrees.

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    kung may makikita kayong toe and camber alignment tool na "bula", parehas sa mga level na gamit sa construction, mas maganda.

    sa south, meron nito, si JPWheels. (merong sila facebook para sa directions).

    sakin naman, hindi ko pinapa set sa zero o positive camber. lagi akong naka negative. mga -0.5 to -0.8 degrees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by innova2013 View Post
    kung may makikita kayong toe and camber alignment tool na "bula", parehas sa mga level na gamit sa construction, mas maganda.

    sa south, meron nito, si JPWheels. (merong sila facebook para sa directions).

    sakin naman, hindi ko pinapa set sa zero o positive camber. lagi akong naka negative. mga -0.5 to -0.8 degrees.

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    kung may makikita kayong toe and camber alignment tool na "bula", parehas sa mga level na gamit sa construction, mas maganda.

    sa south, meron nito, si JPWheels. (merong sila facebook para sa directions).

    sakin naman, hindi ko pinapa set sa zero o positive camber. lagi akong naka negative. mga -0.5 to -0.8 degrees.



    Ang carpenter's level samahan ng nylon string (to check toe kuno) at gamit nga ng carpentero. If you do this so called wheel alignment is like shooting from the hip in the dark. Go to a reputable shop with the proper equipment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jick.cejoco View Post
    Ang carpenter's level samahan ng nylon string (to check toe kuno) at gamit nga ng carpentero. If you do this so called wheel alignment is like shooting from the hip in the dark. Go to a reputable shop with the proper equipment.
    hindi ganun yung ibig kong sabihin sir. doon ko lang na compare. old school measuring device siya.

    alignment tool talaga siya, pero ibis na digital/computerized, yung reading niya ay "bula".

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    Quote Originally Posted by jick.cejoco View Post
    Ang carpenter's level samahan ng nylon string (to check toe kuno) at gamit nga ng carpentero. If you do this so called wheel alignment is like shooting from the hip in the dark. Go to a reputable shop with the proper equipment.
    hindi ganun yung ibig kong sabihin sir. doon ko lang na compare. old school measuring device siya.

    alignment tool talaga siya, pero ibis na digital/computerized, yung reading niya ay "bula".

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    Quote Originally Posted by innova2013 View Post
    hindi ganun yung ibig kong sabihin sir. doon ko lang na compare. old school measuring device siya.

    alignment tool talaga siya, pero ibis na digital/computerized, yung reading niya ay "bula".

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    hindi ganun yung ibig kong sabihin sir. doon ko lang na compare. old school measuring device siya.

    alignment tool talaga siya, pero ibis na digital/computerized, yung reading niya ay "bula".
    Maybe this one?
    https://www.google.com/search?q=camb...LR5nr6K3JOM%3A

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    before them new-fangled alignment machines became available..
    we did it using strings, tape measure or metal rule, and carpenter's level.
    ..pretty good results, if tire wear patterns are to be believed..

    alignment is easier now, because of them gadgets.
    but never let it be said, that using strings and levels, is akin to hitting the bullseye while shooting from the hip in the dark.
    we were doing precisely that, before. all it takes, is practice and patience. sir.

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    pa comment na din po ng medyo OT, dati nung nagpa camber alignment ako sabi ng tao dun sa yokohama hindi daw pwede ma adjust ng hindi gagamit ng kikil at kikikilin daw nila para ma allign.. ok lang ba yon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erick Chavez View Post
    pa comment na din po ng medyo OT, dati nung nagpa camber alignment ako sabi ng tao dun sa yokohama hindi daw pwede ma adjust ng hindi gagamit ng kikil at kikikilin daw nila para ma allign.. ok lang ba yon?
    many modern vehicles have convenient camber adjust ability.. ikot lang ng turnilyo..
    there are some vehicles that do not have this convenient camber adjust.
    kinikikil, linalagyan ng shims siguro, o pinupukpok..

    then there are those, usually the back wheels, where no camber adjustment is possible at all. replacement lang..

    errr... what's your car in question, po?

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    Ganyan nga ang gagawin nila pag MacPherson strut na walang camber adjustment bolt. My own opinion: tama ang camber setting nyan when new, apparently nag karoon ng clearance somewhere sa suspension arm or position ng strut (e.g. shock absorber mounting) kaya nawala sa correct camber.

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    ok ba magpa-camber alignment sa zafra or mas better ba sa servitek?

    in terms of cost mukhang mas mura si zafra. feedback nmn, tia

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    Quote Originally Posted by jick.cejoco View Post
    Camber in most vehicles is set positive on the front wheels to offset the curvature of the road crown. Refer to the manufacturer's recommendation not the ganun talaga specs. For lack of information, knowledge and sometimes laziness, they use the ganun talaga specs
    Default camber is not in the manual. Sinearch ko na rin sa net pero wala akong makitang default camber setting. BTW, vios yung car. Medyo mas manipis yung outer wheel ngayon kesa inner, ibig sabihin ba nun sobra yung pagka positive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by w00ch View Post
    ok ba magpa-camber alignment sa zafra or mas better ba sa servitek?

    in terms of cost mukhang mas mura si zafra. feedback nmn, tia
    sa servitrek ako. haven't tried zafra.
    i like their otis branch. almost always, no waiting. but i go there because it's near the workplace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luis_ View Post
    Default camber is not in the manual. Sinearch ko na rin sa net pero wala akong makitang default camber setting. BTW, vios yung car. Medyo mas manipis yung outer wheel ngayon kesa inner, ibig sabihin ba nun sobra yung pagka positive?
    "default camber" refers to the mechanics.
    there is always a camber measurement by the manufacturer.
    "you haven't looked hard enough" , sir.

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