The Perpetual NBA Thread

[5Speed]

rumble in the arena...hehehe di ko napanood...

pero suspended indefinitely sina artest & co...

tsk tsk kawawa ang pacers tatlong key players agad ang wala sa lineup....

[BlackMagic]

Try niyo itong link for the video of the Royal Rumble hehe
http://www.onestepjourney.org/brawl.mov

[mcjayz]

a rude, un-cultured thugs with a mentality of an ape(Pistons fans) leader of the pack well known monkey him self BEN WALLACE! i would say that what artest did was just a normal human responce if someone hits you with something you fight back! aba nman batuhin ka ng nananahimik k s 1 tabi ng bote ano gwin mo 2mawa ka lang! detroit still wants to prove that there still the bad boys of NBA! MANNY UPAKAN MO NGA SI BEN WALLACE!

[ssaloon]

tanga-tanga pa ng fan, bumangon pa.... dapat humiga nalang siya, kaya 2 sapak natikman niya.

[RedHorse]

sayang!

gusto ko pa namang makita ang sapakan nina Shaq and Kobe....

With this, as precedent, malabo nang mangyari tuloy... marami ng security yan tyak

[onewaytrip]

tsk tsk. . .players have the right to beat up fans who are like that. sorry kung masama pero wala kacng respeto lalo na ung nanbato ng beer..! powtek sana hindi na inawat c atrest ehehe. :D maganda ang game sa christmas ah, detriot at indiana. . .

[ssaloon]

yari ang pistons pag may game na sila at indiana!

[ILuvDetailing]

After this incident, ratings of the NBA will surely skyrocket... everybody loves controversy.

Buttomline - all of the involved parties are at fault. This is a truly sad day for the NBA, but let me ask you this, would this incident make you NOT watch an NBA game again?

[kimpOy]

Artest is suspended for the rest of the season
J' Oneal's sentenced for 25 games Jackson got 30 games
Ben Wallace have 6 games to think about his actions
Anthony Johnson will serve 5 games
and Four players were suspended for a game apiece: Indiana's Reggie Miller, and Detroit's Chauncey Billups, Elden Campbell and Derrick Coleman.

actually medyo calmado nga si artest sa confrontation nila ni big ben di ba, if not for the cup of beer tapos na ang gulo...

anyways hindi na bago yan, in the 40s-50s yung mga players nakakulong sa isang caged ring para hindi sila guluhin ng mga nanonood.

that's why they are called CAGERS now

[kimpOy]

my thoughts,
watched the game again last night with my wife, eto napansin ko.

2 or 3 plays before the melee, Ben Wallace Blocked the shot of artest Clean with artest going to the floor.

and since lamang na and less than 2 minutes to go, big ben let jackson dunk the ball, so uncalled for ang hard foul ni artest.

eto ang napansin ni misis
the one artest mugged on the stands is not the one who threw the cup of beer at him, she even saw the the mugged fan with a cup of beer in his hand.

artest must pray that his Rap Album will sell because for sure lawsuits will be file a plenty.

[Altis6453]

So much for the pacers' playoff hopes now. No O'Neal? No Artest? Might as well write them off.

The NBA should also come down hard on the Pistons as a team by having fans excluded from the arena during games since their security failed to control the situation and accost the fans who became unruly.

[pajerokid]

But Artest's foul on Wallance wasnt even hard.

For sure Big Ben can take fouls harder than that.

Frustration lang on his part, but yes, he did overreact big time!

[baiskee]

Originally posted by pajerokid
But Artest's foul on Wallance wasnt even hard.

For sure Big Ben can take fouls harder than that.

Frustration lang on his part, but yes, he did overreact big time!

yep...OA si big ben dun.

o baka kasi nagulo yung buhok nya?

[kimpOy]

never touch the FRO

[theveed]

Kasalanan ni Ben to IMO, there's no way that he got "hurt" or dissed sa foul ni Artest kahit mali yung foul... What's the big deal with that?

IMO US fans are getting out of hand, kahit sa golf, the Euro team hates playing the Davis cup sa US, parang happy gilmore ang crowd, jeering players who are putting, ringing their cell on their downswing, etc...

Pang UFC/WWF nalang dapat mga ganyan...

I do wonder if Artest went after the right guy though, parang nakita ko nga din na may blue cup pang hawak yung binugbob nila ni Jackson.

[stinkaboy]

ang saya saya ng rmble! hahaha

[ILuvDetailing]

Woah suspended for the whole season? Thats really sending a message. Well I agree with you guys that the fans truly crossed the line on this one, mga lasing na mga yun kaya ganon. Somebody even threw a steel chair! Its one thing to taunt, but to throw stuff at players no thats unacceptable in the fans part.

The players union are appealing the suspension of Artest and Co., and IMO I expect the league to reduce their suspensions due to the circumstances of the incidents.

[theveed]

Detroit player-fan brawl: Ugly sign of violent times
By STEVE WILSTEIN, AP Sports Columnist
November 20, 2004

Blame the frightening melee in Detroit -- perilously close to escalating into a full-blown riot -- on the players, the fans, the NBA and the times.

It's the latest in a series of increasingly ugly incidents in sports, raising fears that the worst is yet to come.

Blame the Detroit Pistons' Ben Wallace for the first angry shove Friday night, the Indiana Pacers' Ron Artest for crossing the line by climbing into the stands, Stephen Jackson and Jermaine O'Neal for the reckless punches that followed.

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Blame the fools in the crowd who threw beer, ice, a chair and punches of their own, and the ones who took to the court to confront the Pacers.

There's blame aplenty to account for the brawl in the final minute of Indiana's abbreviated 97-82 victory at The Palace in Auburn Hills, Mich. It started with Artest's hard foul from behind on Wallace and should have ended there. Instead, Wallace wheeled around and pushed Artest in the face to set off a tussle.

When that settled down, Artest, no stranger to roughhousing and controversy, retreated to neutral territory and sprawled on the scorer's table.

Then came a full cup from the stands that hit him. Artest jumped up in a rage to pummel the offender -- though he mauled the wrong guy. Jackson went to help his teammate. Then another seemingly confrontational fan strolled onto the court. That set off O'Neal, flinging punches.

By the time it was over, children were crying, police resorted to pepper spray, and a half-dozen people were treated for injuries -- none serious.

``I felt like I was fighting for my life out there,'' Pacers coach Rick Carlisle said.

Pistons coach Larry Brown picked up a microphone to try to calm the crowd but put it down in disgust.

``I've just never seen anything like that,'' Brown said. ``I didn't know what to do myself.''

Blame the security, or not enough of it. Blame drinking, or too much of it.

Blame the thuggish image of players the NBA has cultivated and marketed.

Blame the zooming costs of tickets and the attitude by some fans that they can get their money's worth by heaping endless abuse -- verbal and physical -- on players.

Blame our violent times -- the streaming images of war and terrorism on TV, the edginess of daily life -- and the continuing decline of civility.

NBA commissioner David Stern called the brawl, one of the worst in league history, ``shocking, repulsive and inexcusable'' on Saturday, when he suspended Wallace, Artest, Jackson and O'Neal indefinitely.

That's a smart first step. A month's suspension wouldn't suffice, even if it means the injury-depleted Pacers won't have enough healthy players left to finish a game.

The next step is a police investigation, possible charges against players, most probably lawsuits.

What will it take to prevent a death, a stampede, a riot the next time tempers get out of control?

In basketball's early days, courts were surrounded by chicken wire -- hence, the players' nickname of ``cagers.'' Must the game construct new barriers between players and fans?

Must baseball build bullpens away from the stands to avoid a repeat of the Texas Rangers' Frank Francisco's chair-throwing incident that broke the nose of an Oakland Athletics fan?

Must police in riot gear be stationed at every game?

It's bad enough when players attack each other, such as in March when Vancouver Canucks star Todd Bertuzzi was charged with assault for a sucker-punch that broke Colorado Avalanche center Steve Moore's neck. Bertuzzi's trial is set for January.

We've come to expect violence in hockey, learned to grudgingly accept that parents of Little Leaguers set bad examples for the kids by verbally, sometimes physically, abusing umpires.

Even on Saturday, Clemson and South Carolina football players brawled late in the game, with skinny 67-year-old coach Lou Holtz diving into the pile as peacemaker in his regular-season finale with the Gamecocks.

And last week in the NFL, Cleveland's William Green and Pittsburgh's Joey Porter were ejected and fined for spitting at each other and fighting -- before the opening kickoff.

There's more at work here than just a few isolated incidents on the field, the courts and the ice. There's a disturbing increase in player violence and player-fan confrontations:

-- The bullpen brawl involving New York Yankees pitchers and a groundskeeper cheering for the Boston Red Sox at Fenway last year in the playoffs.

-- The father and son who burst onto the field at Chicago's Comiskey Park in 2002, slammed Kansas City Royals first-base coach Tom Gamboa to the ground, punched and kicked him.

-- And, most famously, the 1993 courtside stabbing in Hamburg, Germany of top-ranked tennis player Monica Seles by a deranged fan of Steffi Graf.

We live in strange and dangerous times, sport no more separated from the violence of the world than any other endeavor. The brawl in Detroit was as bad as the NBA has ever seen but there's no sense that we won't see more in the future.

Pity the innocent guy that Ron attacked hehe wrong place, wrong time boy..

[theveed]

They should bring up news and footages of 80's Anejo/San Miguel or Purefoods playoff/finals games as well... hehe... PISO PISO PISO

[kimpOy]

pity? i dont think see all i can see is the millions of dollar lawsuit.

remember the cameraman that rodman kicked got 2 million in settlement.