The Perpetual NBA Thread

[ssaloon]

Diba si jordan nag ka knee injury din he came back strong cguro si amare kaya nya din. Kanino ba yng mas serious na injury amare or jordan??? Yap tama si Theveed amare is killing the suns tempo kitang kita naman.

broken foot yung injury dati ni jordan!

[BoEinG_747]

ang galing ng left handed dunk ni Chris Kaman ,

sumabay pa sina Diaw,Marion & Thomas

[ssaloon]

ang luffeet ng winning shot ni Allen Iverson ng 2.2 secs

nag mukhang kawawa naman si Duncan ng bigyan sia ni LBJ ng harapan na DUNK

tumalsik pa sa labas si Tim....lagpas pa sa elbow ni LBJ ang ring

eto ba yun?




NASTY!!!

[BoEinG_747]

thanks sir SS,iyan nga iyon ...
wwhheeewww wala na cguro makakapigil sa ganon dunk ,baka pag nag try block iyon .ang defender pa mabalian ng braso

[theveed]

I don't think they can win even the Pacific division that way playing speed ball. What kept them good to watch last year was Nash and Marion and the mismatches from Diaw's play and hustle, not to mention Barbosa's occasional explosions. Now they don't have Diaw's hustle and mismathces. The collective brains in their mngt learned that beating a team like Mavs, Spurs or Heat needs more than speed ball and hustle. They need to dominate inside also. Well, shooting lucky 3's barely got them to round 2 in the playoffs last year and maybe Jalen is the Tim Thomas guy this year.

What are you talking about dude?

Key of Sun's loss last year against Dallas was 1) Fatigue (game 7s), 2) Bell out, 3) Kurt out.

How can you say they can't win in speedball format where most teams this season is adopting the international fast-game format?

Spurs are a running team considering their front court size, they don't go slow like the Heat, and Dallas, c'mon, when did Dallas not run? They still don't post up, who will they post up with? Damp and Diop? Mavs are tough coz they're fast and big.

The point is still, Suns shouldn't have rushed Amare back without him being the Amare of old. Nash's time will run out soon and wasting the first half of the season just trying to get your highest paid young phenom back into shape is surely a waste of talent and time for Marion and Nash.

Why not just friggin sit Nash and Marion down so that Amare can take his time trying to prove that he's the same Amare as 04? Plug Banks, Barbosa, whoever-sf-you-want, Diaw and Amare as starting five, that way he'll still be "the man" and he can get most of the touches.

Suns win with Nash's decisions and the team's overall speed, they were the highest scoring team, highest FG team, highest FT% team last year, the only team in history to do those things, the past 2 years, Phoenix has been a big threat in the west, this season, opponents can just bank on attacking Amare on D and keeping him from running down the court to slow the whole team down.

Diaw's stats suffer because he no longer has the advantage of playing C in a SF's body since he is playing SF/PF positions in game most of the time unless Amare's out and he plays with Kurt.

How can you dismiss Sun's 2 year dominance in the running game and still think they can't win with that style of play?

Just because they shot a lot of 3s doesn't mean they didn't score well inside, you can't shoot a high FG% SEASON without scoring efficiently inside.

Most guys think that "good inside game" simply equates to post ups and half-court drives.

You get a lot of inside scoring through drive and dishes just like how Tony Parker and Wade does it.

Miami didn't have a strong inside game if they simply post up Shaq and Walker either.

Why should you waste a 2-time MVP's game to fit an injured "prospect"?

[empy]

nagpagupit kasi si Nash kaya nawala ang buenas

[theveed]

The Suns were first in the league in the following last season:

FG Made
Efficiency
FG Percentage
3PT Attempts
3PT Made
FT Attempts
FT Made
Offense
Assists

They were 3rd overall in defensive rebounds, 10th overall in total rebounds, 12th overall in blocks.

Unless Amare comes back with at least 15/12/2 or something throughout the season, all other Phoenix players stats and groove will be affected.

It can't be a coincidence that last year's stable starters (Bell, Diaw) dropped their stats significantly across the board this season.

[empy]

^i told you, it's the hair

[theveed]

Humahaba na ngayon diba hehe

[BlueBimmer]

hey as long as kurt gets to start i dont care :bwahaha:

[tsupermario]

i just hope amare doesn't become a cris webber

[theveed]

That's the scary part... hehe, pati salary handicap Webber-like...

Hope that he recovers as fast as Zach Randolph did sa microfracture nya.

[jasprit]

ang lakas ni dwigth parang si shaq nung kabataan nya.

[Eismann]

What are you talking about dude?

Key of Sun's loss last year against Dallas was 1) Fatigue (game 7s), 2) Bell out, 3) Kurt out.

The point is still, Suns shouldn't have rushed Amare back without him being the Amare of old. Nash's time will run out soon and wasting the first half of the season just trying to get your highest paid young phenom back into shape is surely a waste of talent and time for Marion and Nash.


How can you dismiss Sun's 2 year dominance in the running game and still think they can't win with that style of play?

Most guys think that "good inside game" simply equates to post ups and half-court drives.

You get a lot of inside scoring through drive and dishes just like how Tony Parker and Wade does it.

Miami didn't have a strong inside game if they simply post up Shaq and Walker either.

The Suns should prove that their running can get them to something big, they would have done it last year. Except for the fact that Mavs played big during stretches and they can't match up. Diop and Dampier played relatively well in the playoffs. Had they beaten the Mavs to make it to their first finals after Barkley in the summer 93, Shaq's presence inside would have been their problem because Kurt was injured and Diaw can't match size for size(reason maybe why Boris stocked a lot of meat in his body the past offseason...he-he). And good for the Suns, they got that now and never missed that deficiency this season. Good luck to the Suns.

[tsupermario]

That's the scary part... hehe, pati salary handicap Webber-like...

Hope that he recovers as fast as Zach Randolph did sa microfracture nya.

and he needs to get back into his old self too. imho the only player that reverted close to pre-surgery form is jason kidd.

with that, i think they need amare to seriously contend during the playoffs. nash, marion and the rest of the guys may not be enough, especially against teams like the spurs (with a rejuvenated duncan) and a loaded mavericks. these 2 teams can go either big or small depending on the opponent.

[empy]

Phil Jackson already laid out the game plan for beating the Suns in last year's playoffs...he would have succeeded if he had the right personnel, and in fact came within a couple of unlucky breaks (the Tim Thomas 3-pointers) of booting the Suns.

the problem with the Suns is that they suck you into playing their tempo of basketball. to beat it, you must have (a) the absolute discipline to resist that temptation...after all, it's fun to play that kind of playground style ball...and (b) at least 2 bonafide low post threats that are also good rebounders.

the plan is simple:

1. make a commitment to the inside game. Kobe unselfishly gave up much of his opportunities to pound the ball in with Kwame and Odom at every opportunity

2. abuse Shawn Marion down low. for all of his superhuman abilities, Marion is still a light 6'7". if the Suns line him up at PF you have got to take advantage of that with Odom or Duncan or Brand

3. have another post presence on the other side so they can't cheat over to help. this kinda fell apart for the Lakers because they had to put Kwame into this role, but if Mike Dunleavy had any brains he'd use Brand/Kaman in this strategy.

4. don't run! Steve Nash will make you pay!

5. exploit perimeter mismatches. because the undersized Suns have to cheat so much on opposing big men, big physical guards will give them problems. for example, Josh Howard. Bonzi Wells would kill the Suns too (maybe that's why the Rockets got him, hmmm)

[BoEinG_747]

nagpagupit kasi si Nash kaya nawala ang buenas

parang si Samson ..nanghina na nagupitan ang buhok

[Eismann]

M54: Point taken. But let's say, 50% of the coaches has what Phil Jackson thought of. What will the Suns do to counter? I was thinking showtime basketball....ala Lakers of the late 80's. They have all the elements - Nash(Magic), Marion(Worthy), Bell/Barbosa(Scott/Cooper)) except for 1....Kareem(this should be Amare.....hopefully). The Suns are in need of a system of running/posting much like how Riley instilled it to the showtime lakers of old. One thing about the Suns right now, their D is bound to improve now that they have legit post presence in Kurt and Amare sharing time, unlike last season when Diaw is blowing our minds what the hell he's doing at the C spot. Lucky break for Diaw by the way during his contract year...sort of.

[mazdamazda]

hehehe... tingnan natin sa BTV kung nabawasan ang dreadlocks ni Xzibit. hehe.

Thomas, Haywood Reportedly In Recent Fight
7th November, 2006 - 4:06 am

Washington Post - Washington Wizards centers Etan Thomas and Brendan Haywood were involved in a physical altercation last Thursday in which the two traded punches at Verizon Center, the Washington Post writes, citing two team sources for the information.

One source, who requested anonymity because the team was trying to keep the incident private, said Thomas was angry over comments made by Haywood's agent, Andy Miller, on Oct. 30.

Miller was critical of Coach Eddie Jordan's decision to select Thomas as the starting center over Haywood, believing Jordan chose Thomas out of personal animosity toward Haywood rather than performance. "My concern is that this is based on personal issues rather than professional ones," Miller said the day of the decision.

Thomas felt that Miller's comments were a slight toward him, he approached Haywood and threw the first punch once the argument escalated, a source said. According to the source, Haywood responded to the punch by body-slamming Thomas to the ground, tearing out at least two of Thomas's dreadlocks in the process. The two players were separated by teammates and the altercation ended.

It is not the first time the two have fought. Haywood was suspended for one game after he and Thomas got into a fight during practice last season.

[theveed]

If Haywood plays with the same energy as Etan does, then maybe he's worth more... Like as if he's ever been anything more than an underachiever