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**ssaloon** · February 10th, 2004 11:50 PM

holy ****! big trade talaga! formidable front line na ang blazers! makakabangon ba ang hawks kaya?

**kimpOy** · February 11th, 2004 09:42 AM

freeagent rasheed will get out of portland. as to get nothing in return portland uses the old trade way.
portland got some "nice" players and beefed up the frontline,

atlanta naman will absorb sheed's contract and take it off the book next season, to lure other free agents or sign sheed

**ownertype** · February 11th, 2004 07:40 PM

for me both Atlanta and Portland benefited in the 5 player trade deal.

With the acquisition of Ratliff, Rahim and Dickau, the Trailblazers boosts its chances of getting a spot in the playoffs. Ratliff is terrific shotblocker and rebounder. He is much better at the 5 position than Dale Davis who is undersized at center. Rahim is uncomfortable playing PF in Atlanta. He's a natural SF at 6'9. He can take the SF spot in the starting lineup and slide Darius Miles at SG. Dickau who's from Portland logged good stats when he took Mookie Blaylocks starting PG position. Unfortunately, Atlanta's coach decided they're better off with Jason Terry (who was the SG at the time) to be the PG. He can be good reliever for Stoudamire since they're only reserved PG is Omar Cook. Derek Anderson can play point but he plays best at SG.

The Hawks on the other hand finally achieved its plan of rebuilding their team next season. Their masterplan is to ensure all the players in their roster has expiring contracts by the end of the season. Rasheed may play "the pain in the ass" role in the team since he has nothing to lose after all. He will explore the free agency next season. Unless he likes it at Atlanta (its a nice city) and decides to show off a little bit and demand for juicy contract with the Hawks. Aging Wesley Person may retire next season unless a team signs him for a veterans minumum.

**ownertype** · February 11th, 2004 07:46 PM

btw, I am looking forward for the All-Star Weekend. I hope Peja and J-Richardson knocks their 3rd win in the annual 3point shootout and slam dunk. They will go for the record.

For the 3 point shootout its anybody's game. For the slam dunk, the J-Richardson 's opponents are not really that superb. J-Richardson playing against Ricky Davis, Frank Jones and Chris Andersen. They should have invited Darius Miles and Lebron James in the slam dunk comp.

**ssaloon** · February 11th, 2004 11:10 PM

lebron was invited but he said he'd skip it to nurse his injured ankle. sayang nga eh, i was expecting kobe and vincanity to be their when that rumor circulated midway through the first half of the season. sarap siguro panoorin yun!

**cardo** · February 11th, 2004 11:49 PM

i like what the blazers have(theo & shareef)!!!

sino kaya susunod sa mga jail blazers?

patterson? stoudamire? hmmm....

i thought atlanta had something big back then... glenn rob, shareef, theo, j terry... it looked promising on paper! siguro new GM kelangan nila at new coach, like what memphis/new york did by getting jerry west n hubie brown and isiah thomas and lenny wilkens...

**kimpOy** · February 12th, 2004 09:28 AM

17m (sheed) and 3m (person) come off the book of atlanta and also the contract of terrel brandon

enough dough to lure top free agents....kobe? AI?

**newkidontheblock** · February 12th, 2004 06:20 PM

sir kimpoy, the hawks can't lure AI anymore di ba ng extend na sya ng contract sa sixers. ok na sana yung lineup ng hawks noon. reef,big dog,terry, ratliff kaso wala ka laman laman yung bench nila. cguro sa coach na rin kelangan na rin palitan.

**kimpOy** · February 13th, 2004 09:50 AM

ganun ba? sino sino ba ang free agents after the season ends

**newkidontheblock** · February 13th, 2004 10:13 AM

one of the big names lang nman etong si kobe bryant. and some believes that if kobe decides to leave the lakers.. first option nya ang clippers..yun ang rumor.

**ssaloon** · February 13th, 2004 11:46 AM

kobe, ginobili (restricted free agent)

**kimpOy** · February 13th, 2004 01:33 PM

nalito ako

free agent 2003-2004
CONTRACTS THAT END IN 2004
Eric Williams ......... Mamadou N'diaye .......
Anthony Carter ........ Hakeem Olajuwon .......
LaPhonso Ellis ........ Morris Peterson .......
Chris Gatling ......... Steve Nash ............
Jason Kidd ............ Tim Hardaway ..........
Kenyon Martin ......... Donnell Harvey ........
Mark Jackson .......... Avery Johnson .........
Travis Knight ......... Antonio McDyess .......
Kurt Thomas ........... Nick Van Exel .........
Charlie Ward .......... Jason Collier .........
Horace Grant .......... Glen Rice .............
Mike Miller ........... Brevin Knight .........
Speedy Claxton ........ Bryant Reeves .........
Eric Snow ............. Stromile Swift ........
Courtney Alexander .... Kevin Garnett .........
Hubert Davis .......... John Amaechi ..........
Etan Thomas ........... Greg Ostertag .........
Chris Whitney ......... DeShawn Stevenson .....
Shareef Abdur-Rahim ... Adonal Foyle ..........
DerMarr Johnson ....... Bob Sura ..............
Toni Kukoc ............ Darius Miles ..........
Bryce Drew ............ Keyon Dooling .........
Jamaal Magloire ....... Quentin Richardson ....
Jerome Moiso .......... Robert Horry ..........
Dalibor Bagaric ....... Lindsey Hunter ........
Jamal Crawford ........ Mark Madsen ...........
Fred Hoiberg .......... Iakovos Tsakalidis ....
Marcus Fizer .......... Erick Barkley .........
Ron Mercer ............ Shawn Kemp ............
Bimbo Coles ........... Rasheed Wallace .......
Chris Mihm ............ Mateen Cleaves ........
Wesley Person ......... Vlade Divac ...........
Zeljko Rebraca ........ Hidayet Turkoglu ......
Michael Curry ......... Brent Barry ...........
Joel Przybilla ........ Desmond Mason .........

2004-2005
CONTRACTS THAT END IN 2005

Ray Allen ............. DeSagana Diop .........
Stephon Marbury ....... Zydrunas Ilgauskas ....
Kedrick Brown ......... Jerry Stackhouse ......
Joseph Forte .......... Rodney White ..........
Joe Johnson ........... Primoz Brezec .........
Vitaly Potapenko ...... Jamaal Tinsley ........
Antoine Walker ........ Jason Caffey ..........
Aaron Williams ........ Ervin Johnson .........
Brandon Armstrong ..... Anthony Mason .........
Jason Collins ......... Glenn Robinson ........
Jamie Feick ........... Michael Bradley .......
Richard Jefferson ..... Eric Montross .........
Kerry Kittles ......... Michael Stewart .......
Marcus Camby .......... Eddie Griffin .........
Othella Harrington .... Shane Battier .........
Latrell Sprewell ...... Pau Gasol .............
Grant Hill ............ Terrell Brandon .......
Steve Hunter .......... Tony Parker ...........
Tracy McGrady ......... Andrei Kirilenko ......
Jeryl Sasser .......... Danny Fortson .........
Samuel Dalembert ...... Troy Murphy ...........
Allen Iverson ......... Jason Richardson ......
Dikembe Mutombo ....... Kobe Bryant ...........
Kwame Brown ........... Rick Fox ..............
Brandan Haywood ....... Bo Outlaw .............
Christian Laettner .... Dale Davis ............
Jahidi White .......... Zach Randolph .........
Theo Ratliff .......... Damon Stoudamire ......
Kirk Haston ........... Bobby Jackson .........
George Lynch .......... Gerald Wallace ........
Tyson Chandler ........ Vladimir Radmanovic ...
Eddy Curry ............

**ssaloon** · February 16th, 2004 10:40 AM

and the rebuilding continues....
Van Horn to Bucks in three-team, five-player deal

**sauman** · February 16th, 2004 10:51 AM

ang ganda na ng nilalaro ni Van Horn sa Knicks ngayon since the arrival of Lenny Wilkens, bakit kaya biglang naman na-trade.

**pajerokid** · February 16th, 2004 10:54 AM

Hakeem Olajuwon a free agent? diba retired na yon?

**kimpOy** · February 16th, 2004 11:59 AM

PK, si hakeem kasi early retirement, his contract is still in the books for the toronto raptors, pwede mong i trade ang contract.

remember the t-wolves traded terrell brandon maski retired na siya, kasi his contract will come off the books, malaking bagay yung sa over the salary cap teams

ok yung trade ng knicks, nagkaroon ng size dahil kay mohammed, konti na lang ang gas ni motumbo, nagkaroon pa ng versatile/agile tim thomas

**ownertype** · February 16th, 2004 03:39 PM

Isiah Thomas was keen on trading Keith Van Horn. He's the only dispensable and tradeable player in the Knicks lineup. Van Horn is a terrible defender. Tim Thomas and and Mohammed are good additions in the team. Thomas can play both PF and SF positions while Mohammed is a younger Mutombo/Ratliff clone.

Bucks will definitely like Van Horn's offensive mentality. Especially in a team with really no legit star player. He will share the scoring chores with Michael Redd.

After giving away their available centers (Ratliff and Mohammed) they badly needed replacement centers. Getting 2 white seven footers (Pryzbilia and Doleac) seems nice. These 2 are blue collared players who loves to rebound and block shots.

**MeshType** · February 16th, 2004 04:19 PM

sino sa inyo nakapanood ng All Star game sa IBC13? nakakainis mag cover ng game si Chino T. and Andy Jao. pang PBA lang talaga ang caliber ng coverage nila.

**Cardo818** · February 22nd, 2004 01:18 AM

ok lang na trade nila si van horn, tutal ang dami na nilang outside shooter in the first place and not mention the guards they once had.

galing ng pistons ngayon! they have the Wallace Boyz- Big ben and Sheed!!!!

**newkidontheblock** · February 22nd, 2004 11:02 AM

Originally posted by MeshType
sino sa inyo nakapanood ng All Star game sa IBC13? nakakainis mag cover ng game si Chino T. and Andy Jao. pang PBA lang talaga ang caliber ng coverage nila.

napanood ko yan. pinatyagaan ko na lng sobrang O.A ni chino trinidad. by the way atlanta waives michael doleac..tpos the nuggets signs doleac, good additon na nman sa nuggets.

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