China Corona Virus Outbreak

[dr. d]

the problem i anticipate is,
"who will interpret the result?"
"who will advise the patient?"

[uls]

the problem i anticipate is,
"who will interpret the result?"
"who will advise the patient?"

they'll tell you to get swab if you get antibody positive result

yun lang

[dr. d]

they'll tell you to get swab if you get antibody positive result

yun lang

my experience with that, is,
"pag 'di duktor ang nagsabi, pasok-labas lang sa tenga..."

[dhisky]

PH with the highest active case in SEA pero last when it comes to recoveries 25% only.

All SEA countries (except for indonesia 46%, Myanmar 78%) have 90%+ recovery rate.

WTF is going on?

Singapore yes they're good, pero yung ibang kapitbahay natin for sure hindi magpapahuli mga doctors natin. Anong meron sa kanila ang bilis gumaling ng pasyente

[dr. d]

PH with the highest active case in SEA pero last when it comes to recoveries 25% only.

All SEA countries (except for indonesia 46%, Myanmar 78%) have 90%+ recovery rate.

WTF is going on?

Singapore yes they're good, pero yung ibang kapitbahay natin for sure hindi magpapahuli mga doctors natin. Anong meron sa kanila ang bilis gumaling ng pasyente

either matagal mag-recover (matagal ang TAT ng covid re-test? heh heh heh.),
or, nalimutan nang i-lista as recovered...

we should also look into the various countries' criteria for "recovered". they may not be the same as ours'.

[dhisky]

either matagal mag-recover (matagal ang TAT ng covid re-test? heh heh heh.),
or, nalimutan nang i-lista as recovered...

we should also look into the various countries' criteria for "recovered". they may not be the same as ours'.

let's say may mali sa criteria nila, the suppose effect is mas marami mas iinfect or mas marami deaths but if I'm not mistaken, they got it under control already (except for Indonesia).

Also we do not hear people dying on their streets or their hospitals getting crowded.

Instead of Pduts asking help from his friend china, maybe he should consider sending medical team to Singapore, Thailand and Malaysia. Study their "criteria" and how they treat covid patients.

Sobrang taas ng recovery rate nila.

[jut703]

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[dr. d]

let's say may mali sa criteria nila, the suppose effect is mas marami mas iinfect or mas marami deaths but if I'm not mistaken, they got it under control already (except for Indonesia).

Also we do not hear people dying on their streets or their hospitals getting crowded.

Instead of Pduts asking help from his friend china, maybe he should consider sending medical team to Singapore, Thailand and Malaysia. Study their "criteria" and how they treat covid patients.

Sobrang taas ng recovery rate nila.

"iba criteria" is not synonymous to "mali criteria".
"iba criteria" means "iba criteria".

our local physicians are in constant communication with the furriner doctors abroad, what with cellphones and the internet. a new finding by someone, others know in short order.
but our local doctors are not too media-hound-ey.

which statistics are accurate and correct?
i really do not know.

[carwhacko]

May nag positive daw dito sa subdivision namin, first kung sakali since COVID free kami since March. Mejo nakakatakot since one month na ako nagccarwash dito at walang araw na hindi ako nabakante. Patay na naman pag naglockdown dito samin. Bwiset na COVID na yan.

May pagasa pa ba bumaba cases natin? Or kung hindi man tumaas naman sana at mangalahati yung recoveries natin. Sobrang bagal ng recovery rate natin, bakit kaya. Nagkakagulo na siguro sa data ang DOH.


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[dhisky]

"iba criteria" is not synonymous to "mali criteria".
"iba criteria" means "iba criteria".

our local physicians are in constant communication with the furriner doctors abroad, what with cellphones and the internet. a new finding by someone, others know in short order.
but our local doctors are not too media-hound-ey.

which statistics are accurate and correct?
i really do not know.

Yup doc my point lang is, they're doing really good there that's why I said "maybe we should study/follow their criteria and how they treat patients there".

That or sobrang palpak lang din ng government natin especially DOH. Baka nga marami ng recoveries hindi lang nasasama sa record

Habang wala pang vaccine, prevention and high recovery rate lang pag asa natin. Yung prevention parang wala ng pag asa satin, yung recovery rate, we're the worst in SEA.

[jaggerx3]

Yup doc my point lang is, they're doing really good there that's why I said "maybe we should study/follow their criteria and how they treat patients there".

That or sobrang palpak lang din ng government natin especially DOH. Baka nga marami ng recoveries hindi lang nasasama sa record

Habang wala pang vaccine, prevention and high recovery rate lang pag asa natin. Yung prevention parang wala ng pag asa satin, yung recovery rate, we're the worst in SEA.

Madami na nakaka recover pero ambagal ng update.
Dito lang sa Taguig napaka tagal ng update.
Yung ibang confirmed cases nung April pa til now di pa na uupdate yung recovery

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[dr. d]

Madami na nakaka recover pero ambagal ng update.
Dito lang sa Taguig napaka tagal ng update.
Yung ibang confirmed cases nung April pa til now di pa na uupdate yung recovery

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i am wondering,
what are our local criteria for "recovered" ?

kasi naman, if that entails at least one negative swab test result...

[2lits17]

its possible that mga positive case na mild or asymptomatic hinde na bumabalik to test again since ok na siya wala na nararadaman.
possible din sa sobrang busy ng contact tracing team hinde na nila nababalikan agad mga positive cases.
i think mas madami nang recovery compare sa data sablay lang sila or delayed mag track ng recoveries.

impossible na 200+ lang recoveries naten per day. siguro dami pa process na papers para ma confirm na recovered na ang isang positive.

[glenn_duke]

its possible that mga positive case na mild or asymptomatic hinde na bumabalik to test again since ok na siya wala na nararadaman.
possible din sa sobrang busy ng contact tracing team hinde na nila nababalikan agad mga positive cases.
i think mas madami nang recovery compare sa data sablay lang sila or delayed mag track ng recoveries.

impossible na 200+ lang recoveries naten per day. siguro dami pa process na papers para ma confirm na recovered na ang isang positive.

LGU monitoring at reporting priblem yan. Pag hindi na forward sa DOH ang update sa mga naka recover hindi yan masasama sa tally.

Bukod pala dun sa 10 positive ng mrt3 maintenance, 2 dun sa teller iisang baranggay dito sa amin mga nakatira.

[boybi]

Sa baba ng death rate, impossibleng mababa recovery rate natin. Ano yan, 3 months na may covid pa din yung pasyente?

[shadow]

Tagal ko na sinasabi eh meron mali sa data ng Department of help 93%-98% mild cases pero hinde nadagdag sa recoveries. Kahit walang test kung after 2-4 weeks nawala na symptoms dapat reconsider recovered na.


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[uls]

di nga nabibilang lahat ng nag recover

di naman lahat ng nag positive sa swab na-o-ospital

kung asymptomatic o mild di naman na-o-ospital eh

so wala follow up kung nag recover na

[shadow]

di nga nabibilang lahat ng nag recover

di naman lahat ng nag positive sa swab na-o-ospital

kung asymptomatic o mild di naman na-o-ospital eh

so wala follow up kung nag recover na

Ang asymptomatic ba ilang weeks before gumaling? 2 weeks din diba?


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[uls]

may asymptomatic di na talaga nagkakasakit

may virus sila pero never develop symptoms

meron naman asymptomatic later on nagkaka symptoms so pre-symptomatic tawag sa kanila

yan ang hinuhuli ng quarantine period -- wait for symptoms to come out

early on you can't tell the difference ng asymptomatic and pre-symptomatic

need days to find out

[Deestone]

may asymptomatic di na talaga nagkakasakit

may virus sila pero never develop symptoms

meron naman asymptomatic later on nagkaka symptoms so pre-symptomatic tawag sa kanila

yan ang hinuhuli ng quarantine period -- wait for symptoms to come out

early on you can't tell the difference ng asymptomatic and pre-symptomatic

need days to find out

If pre-symptomatic stage before symptom occurs usually they had it for like how many days? that's the difficult part on dealing with this covid virus.

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