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    #36281
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Ikaw? [emoji12]


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    #36282
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Masyado talaga malayo numbers ng booster compare sa naka second dose.

    Hinde umangat booster. Mga naka second dose na 60M+ yata pero 9M+ lang booster hinde match yun numbers.


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    seniors samin hindi naka booster. Parang ayaw ata kasi ayaw ng side effect ng mRNA. Sabi sakin Astra lang daw sa Makati ang booster, mas lalong ayaw namin ng Astra. Kung wala ng pila sa Nayong Pilipino, baka dun na lang kami sa drive thru

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    #36283
    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    seniors samin hindi naka booster. Parang ayaw ata kasi ayaw ng side effect ng mRNA. Sabi sakin Astra lang daw sa Makati ang booster, mas lalong ayaw namin ng Astra. Kung wala ng pila sa Nayong Pilipino, baka dun na lang kami sa drive thru
    Takot mabaog siguro

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    #36284
    my homies posted this

    CIMB | Free Full-Text | Intracellular Reverse Transcription of Pfizer BioNTech COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 In Vitro in Human Liver Cell Line

    judibLuehen
    I have only the abstract, which ends with an unequivocal claim. Wanted to get this out quickly as more knowledgeable folks will have opinions.
    "Our results indicate a fast up-take of BNT162b2 into human liver cell line Huh7, leading to changes in LINE-1 expression and distribution. We also show that BNT162b2 mRNA is reverse transcribed intracellularly into DNA in as fast as 6 h upon BNT162b2 exposure."

    Doris Loh
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    How much pain will this article generate?
    First peer-reviewed article showing intracellular reverse transcription of mRNA vaccine BNT162b2 into DNA of human liver cells within 6 h of exposure via increased LINE-1 expression and distribution.
    hugh johnson
    That seems really bad. I have no idea what it means, and we should remember that humans integrate all kinds of genes from viruses and whatnot, so it might not be a full on genocide or anything. I am hoping people dont panic and jump to conclusions here
    judibLuehen
    It seems to me, intuitively, that the incorporation of of genes from natural infections might be part of our immune system "memory". We know genes can be turned on and off, so maybe in a natural infection the foreign genes are minimized. However, the injections seem to be orders of magnitude more mRNA than any natural infection, and also more widespread outside the "terrain" of a natural infection.

    I share your concern hoping that people don't panic, but we've known for a long time that this was a possibility. And now there is starting to be published evidence.

    rafe
    Adding to the list of “‘conspiracy theories’ confirmed to be true.”

    I’ve read that some people on dating sites are already starting to lie that they never got vaxxed. Now I’m not sure how you’d prove that.

    It’ll be interesting to see how many former vax zealots turn up to say they were never for the vaxxes.

    fred
    Ray was saying this from day one!
    Ray Peat on Timpone 12-21-20: "Even our own DNA replicating enzymes, what we need for every cell to reproduce and to produce offspring, the DNA replicase enzyme has the ability to function as reverse transcriptase able to transcribe RNA into DNA, making basically genes out of this bit of viral RNA which can go into the genes, and the person can then become a factory for making this spike protein, this uniquely inflammation-promoting bit of information, producing the viral protein, multiplying it endlessly by possibly all of our cells, so we would not only produce increasing amounts as our body went through its normal restoration and growth processes, but being spreadable by our secretions, and passed on to our offspring if people should live that long
    tom k
    This is the first human study. There were four others using a mouse model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    how much of it do you understand?
    tatanong ko din sana ano meaning niyan hehe

    mag comment sana ako pero inisip ko huwag nalang kasi baka may mga magcomment ng.......... whatever

    nabasa ko yan the other day

    basically ang sinasabi niyan ung mRNA instructions contained in Pfizer vax (instructions to make SARSCOV2 spike)

    the RNA is reverse transcribed to DNA and is found in liver cells

    so ano issue diyan?

    dati kasi the question was raised if those mRNA vaccines "can integrate into our DNA" or "can alter our DNA"

    sabi ng mga "experto" hindi daw

    well there's a need for follow up studies to this

    5. Conclusions

    Our study is the first in vitro study on the effect of COVID-19 mRNA vaccine BNT162b2 on human liver cell line. We present evidence on fast entry of BNT162b2 into the cells and subsequent intracellular reverse transcription of BNT162b2 mRNA into DNA.

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    #36288
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    how much of it do you understand?


    Pfizer Vaccine Becomes DNA in Liver Cells. (In-vitro Swedish Study)


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    #36289
    Quote Originally Posted by Athrunzala View Post
    Pfizer Vaccine Becomes DNA in Liver Cells. (In-vitro Swedish Study)


    in-vitro study...

    it's probably nothing

    #safeandeffective

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    #36291
    Parang back to normal na to. Kahit vaccination card bihira na check sa entrance. Full capacity na.

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    #36292
    la na...

    kanina sa tropical hut supermarket derecho pasok kahit temp check wala

    sa food store din pasok lang

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    #36293
    pumuputak na naman si LoLah Limpin!!!!

    sabi nya dapat daw bago magLeveL1 eh intensify boosting para daw makaready sa new normaL.

    HaLLer!!!!! kaya nga pababa infection dahiL majority two-shots Lang at majority 30% ncr inactivared veeerus.

    Look at the mRNA countries na 3 to 4 shots na aLL time high (at Low popuLation pa yan so no paLusot.)

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    #36294
    booster pa more... lol

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    #36295
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    pumuputak na naman si LoLah Limpin!!!!

    sabi nya dapat daw bago magLeveL1 eh intensify boosting para daw makaready sa new normaL.

    HaLLer!!!!! kaya nga pababa infection dahiL majority two-shots Lang at majority 30% ncr inactivared veeerus.

    Look at the mRNA countries na 3 to 4 shots na aLL time high (at Low popuLation pa yan so no paLusot.)
    so,
    traditional vaxxing, i.e., sinovac, does have its benefits...?

    btw,
    30% is not majority.
    plurarity, perhaps?
    heh heh.
    Last edited by dr. d; February 28th, 2022 at 09:47 AM.

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    #36296
    i think mas madami non-china vax dumating sa pinas kesa china vax

    ipagsama mo lahat ng non-china covid vax (pfizer, moderna, astra, j&j, sputnik) na dumating

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    First wave lang dumating ang Sinovac. After that almost purely western vacs na. Of course, mga western countries gagamitin muna nila sa pangsarili.

    Although sa China, madaming hesitant magpa vax nung umpisa, kaya madami siguro surplus stocks ng sinovac.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    i think mas madami non-china vax dumating sa pinas kesa china vax

    ipagsama mo lahat ng non-china covid vax (pfizer, moderna, astra, j&j, sputnik) na dumating
    mas madami non-China and madami din ay donations from Covax. sa Sinovac mataas ng percentage ay binili natin.

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    #36299
    ^^^

    parang may political hugot

    it's not about kung bili ng gobyerno o hindi

    sabi kasi ni kagalingan majority ng population natin inactivated vax

    pero tingin ko na-outnumber ng non-china vax as more non-china vax arrived in PH

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    #36300
    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    First wave lang dumating ang Sinovac. After that almost purely western vacs na. Of course, mga western countries gagamitin muna nila sa pangsarili.

    Although sa China, madaming hesitant magpa vax nung umpisa, kaya madami siguro surplus stocks ng sinovac.
    napansin ko sa 4th quarter last year madalas sa news may dumating na pfizer / moderna / astra

    wala ako narinig na sinovac

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