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    #25241
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    in theory yes

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    after you get sinovac, ang antibodies mo more or less tulad ng antibodies ng mga nag recover sa covid

    ung antibodies found in convalescent plasma
    So mahinang klase. [emoji36]


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    Sinovac isn't a strong vaccine talaga

    can't compare with pfizer/moderna

    pero may protection parin

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    #25243
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    this is pretty consistent with inactivated virus vaccines

    ung efficacy level

    can't compare with mRNA vaccines

    So 70% lang protection na asymtomatic ka pag tinamaan ka covid? Meron pa 30% chance na mararamdaman mo pa rin. Ganun ba yun?

    Ok na.70% kesa 0%! Mataas na for me yan.


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    #25244
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    Sinovac isn't a strong vaccine talaga

    can't compare with pfizer/moderna

    pero may protection parin
    Basta 67% or round off na natin sa 70% against magkaroon ng symptoms pang tinamaan? 80+% against severe and need hospitalization, 80+% against death? Tama ba?


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    #25245
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    Sinovac isn't a strong vaccine talaga

    can't compare with pfizer/moderna

    pero may protection parin
    [emoji30][emoji30][emoji30] then we need pfizer or Moderna!


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    #25246
    sa socmed dami sinovac-basher lagi ginagamit ang Chile as example that sinovac doesn't work

    eto para sa mga basher


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    #25247
    background:

    Chile has vaccinated a lot of people majority using sinovac

    but cases are surging

    so critics are saying Sinovac doesn't work

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    #25248
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    sa socmed dami sinovac-basher lagi ginagamit ang Chile as example that sinovac doesn't work

    eto para sa mga basher

    Tumataas din naman yun deaths ng matanda?


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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    background:

    Chile has vaccinated a lot of people majority using sinovac

    but cases are surging

    so critics are saying Sinovac doesn't work
    Ano na ba balita sa China mga nabakunahan ng sinovac?


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    #25250
    *uls tama ba intindi ko doon sa efficacy ng sinovac?


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    #25251
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    [emoji30][emoji30][emoji30] then we need pfizer or Moderna!


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    like i tell my friends Sinovac is pang tawid surge

    wala ka naman babaguhin sa kilos mo eh

    mask parin, clean habits parin, avoid crowds parin

    sinovac is an added layer of protection

    tanga naman ng tao nagbalik normal dahil naturokan na

    this is to make sure you get out of the surge alive to get a better vaccine pag meron na

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    #25252
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Tumataas din naman yun deaths ng matanda?


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    pero di nag surge ang deaths

    dapat nga mas madami pa matanda mamatay compared sa mas bata

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    #25253
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Basta 67% or round off na natin sa 70% against magkaroon ng symptoms pang tinamaan? 80+% against severe and need hospitalization, 80+% against death? Tama ba?


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    yes

    efficacy against symptoms (not very effective)

    efficacy against severe/hospitalization (effective)

    efficacy against death (quite effective)

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    #25254
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    like i tell my friends Sinovac is pang tawid surge

    wala ka naman babaguhin sa kilos mo eh

    mask parin, clean habits parin, avoid crowds parin

    sinovac is an added layer of protection

    tanga naman ng tao nagbalik normal dahil naturokan na

    this is to make sure you get out of the surge alive to get a better vaccine pag meron na
    Have you gotten vaccinated already? Ano na ba meron dyan. Dito sa amin mix ng Astra at Sinovac available, depende sa schedule ng vaccine na darating ang pwede mabigay sa naka-sched.

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    #25255
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Ano nga!? [emoji36] screenshot mo na lang. [emoji23]

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    Pinakita lang sakin results e, IIRC kung 20+ cutoff, yung value 30+

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    *uls tama ba intindi ko doon sa efficacy ng sinovac?


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    At this point, Effectiveness (real world results) na ang usapan, hindi Efficacy (lab results).

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    #25257
    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    Pinakita lang sakin results e, IIRC kung 20+ cutoff, yung value 30+
    Cathy, ganito printout ng st lukes neutralizing antibody test.
    Cutoff is 0.3.



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    #25258
    Quote Originally Posted by Lew_Alcindor View Post
    At this point, Effectiveness (real world results) na ang usapan, hindi Efficacy (lab results).
    Yun sa Chile ko nakuha yan mga percentage


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    #25259
    Quote Originally Posted by Papajamba View Post
    Cathy, ganito printout ng st lukes neutralizing antibody test.
    Cutoff is 0.3.



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    So ayan nga yun e-pass ng hi-.

    *uls ano research mo sa test na yan? Baka panloloko lsng yan?


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    #25260
    Quote Originally Posted by Papajamba View Post
    Cathy, ganito printout ng st lukes neutralizing antibody test.
    Cutoff is 0.3.



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    yup that's it. Tama nga, may naalala ako na 30, pero basta mas mataas than cutoff yung result

    Papajamba, doctor ka ba?

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