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    #481
    Sayang naman Ginagamit ko pa rin paminsan-minsan yung Nokia ko. Yun din nakikita ko sa symbian dati kaunti lang yung apps tapos medyo mabagal ang update.

    Ok na yung HTC One X sa akin kaso yun nga walang microSD card slot, battery life (yung One S ko minsan nakaka dalawang beses magcharge sa isang araw dahil sa apps,wifi, camera <- paminsan-minsan at GPS) medyo di magana pero yung iba na features, ok na...sana yung HTC One X+ meron. Sana may beats na kasama yung One X + Sa tingin ko kaya malakas sa battery yung HTC One series dahil sa screen. Noong tiningnan ko kasi yung "Battery use" nasa 45%-80% lagi (Madalas 50%+) yung battery usage ng screen...nasa lowest "brightness" na ito.

    Sa apple naman, inaabangan ko na quad core yung iPhone 5 Pero dual core pa rin. Kapag iPhone 5 vs iPhone 4S, lamang yung iPhone 5. Pero malaki ang improvement nila sa iPod touch at iPod nano. Ok din para sa akin yung Retina Macbook Pro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiempoBoi View Post
    Sayang naman Ginagamit ko pa rin paminsan-minsan yung Nokia ko. Yun din nakikita ko sa symbian dati kaunti lang yung apps tapos medyo mabagal ang update.

    Ok na yung HTC One X sa akin kaso yun nga walang microSD card slot, battery life (yung One S ko minsan nakaka dalawang beses magcharge sa isang araw dahil sa apps,wifi, camera <- paminsan-minsan at GPS) medyo di magana pero yung iba na features, ok na...sana yung HTC One X+ meron. Sana may beats na kasama yung One X + Sa tingin ko kaya malakas sa battery yung HTC One series dahil sa screen. Noong tiningnan ko kasi yung "Battery use" nasa 45%-80% lagi (Madalas 50%+) yung battery usage ng screen...nasa lowest "brightness" na ito.

    Sa apple naman, inaabangan ko na quad core yung iPhone 5 Pero dual core pa rin. Kapag iPhone 5 vs iPhone 4S, lamang yung iPhone 5. Pero malaki ang improvement nila sa iPod touch at iPod nano. Ok din para sa akin yung Retina Macbook Pro.
    i love my One XL. I dont really tax the battery much since I use my iPad to watch any videos. I don't use wifi on it much din because it drains the battery faster. I just use my data plan almost exclusively (it's always on when I'm out of the house). I do have a 4000mA mobile battery to recharge the phone (and/or iPad) when i run out of juice. I have the 32Gb model so I have no problem with storage. Besides, I don't really need more disk space since, as I mentioned above, I watch videos on my iPad.

    So far with calls, chatting and browsing all day, plus using the camera (i love the 28mm f/2 lens btw) occasionally the battery last me through the day and most of the evening. Battery is usually around 20% when i get home.

    Dual core ang iphone 5 just like the One XL because they both have LTE - quad cores don't play well with LTEs. Unless the compatibility issue gets resolved soon LTE phones will just keep coming out with dual core processors.

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    #483
    Quote Originally Posted by tomboy View Post
    Ry tower,

    Pero malaki din yung part ng china. Sila nagpasimula ng murang labor.

    Retz,

    Iphone hindi ko type. Liit ng screen tapos totoo ba pag sira battery hindi na daw pwede palitan?
    totoo un sir...di nmn ksi nabubuksan ang iphone eh!

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    #484
    Quote Originally Posted by roninblade View Post

    how you reply to my post with this just is beyond me. plus, you certainly have no fscking idea what you're talking about with regards to rooting and hacking Android devices.

    Judging from the signs, Apple is the new Microsoft. Apple is the new evil empire.

    Chris Barton: Is Apple becoming an evil empire? - Business - NZ Herald News
    Apple: The new evil empire by Technoborg : Narayanan Krishnaswami's blog-The Times Of India
    Forget Google
    3 Signs Apple Is Displacing Microsoft To Become The Evil Empire
    Wala talaga ako idea rooting samsungs, never spent a peso on android and will never will

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    #485
    Quote Originally Posted by roninblade View Post

    i love my One XL. I dont really tax the battery much since I use my iPad to watch any videos. I don't use wifi on it much din because it drains the battery faster. I just use my data plan almost exclusively (it's always on when I'm out of the house). I do have a 4000mA mobile battery to recharge the phone (and/or iPad) when i run out of juice. I have the 32Gb model so I have no problem with storage. Besides, I don't really need more disk space since, as I mentioned above, I watch videos on my iPad.

    So far with calls, chatting and browsing all day, plus using the camera (i love the 28mm f/2 lens btw) occasionally the battery last me through the day and most of the evening. Battery is usually around 20% when i get home.

    Dual core ang iphone 5 just like the One XL because they both have LTE - quad cores don't play well with LTEs. Unless the compatibility issue gets resolved soon LTE phones will just keep coming out with dual core processors.
    It's a good thing Koreans are execeling on cars and electronics and kpop as well as beauty products, pero HTC, yan ang talagang tapon ang pera. All those taiwanese products will be reduced to Foxconn once the Apple vs Microsoft wars begin

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    #486
    Quote Originally Posted by pop3corn View Post
    symbian nga eh biggest app resource in the market before the androids, and look at where it is now.

    the reason why Microsoft is not paying attention in the mobile OS wars is bec. they will implement a unified OS for both notebook and mobile phone with the upcoming Windows 8.

    eto rin ang gagawin ni Apple, they're going to merge IOS and Mac OSX. with the advent of dual cores cpus and gpus, hindi na kelangan ng seperate OS pa for each devices.

    there will be one OS for mobile phone, tablet and notebook and PC. and you guessed, it will still be Microsoft vs. Apple.

    Google? ano meron Android na pang laptop na OS. Android is just a marketing ploy to market google services likes ads where Google rakes it money. why do you think they're just giving it for free, bec. Android is not a priority. panggulo lang nila yan, and that's why up to now even sa dual core cpu's hindi pa din responsive ang Touch interface nila kasi nga di naman talaga seryoso.

    kawawa lang bumibili ng mga android phones, na yan walang ka-value-value pag resale. unlike iphones, and ipad. would you believe I bought a used Ipad1 in july 2nd hand sa sulit for 12K, then I resold it this Feb at 14K sa sulit ng din. sa apple kumikita pa ako. kakabile ko lang ng 2nd hand Ipad2 eh at 13k lol temporary lang kase bibile ako ng bnew new Ipad
    pag punta ko sa Singapore next month


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    and also main reason why Android seems to be hot now bec. hindi nila makaka-fford magka-Iphone. Iphone 4s is almost 40k , while androids dami dyan parang bangketa sa tabi-tabi ang bentahan
    it depends on the Brand sir! nagkaron na rin ako ng iphone but di ko rin type and thats my opinion. ayun pinamigay ko na lang

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    #487
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post

    Mataas pa naman expectation ko sa windows 8. I think this is OS is particularly made for tablet pc's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    That's a problem with HTC's phones, poor battery life. And making it worst is you can't change it with a bigger capacity battery since it is sealed in. Also the One X has no expandable memory slot. That is why the Galaxy S3 is king because it has all the features people are looking for.
    Yeah, spot on. I agree with the analysis on that site as well. Bang for the buck talaga SG3.

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    #489
    Quote Originally Posted by roninblade View Post
    i love my One XL. I dont really tax the battery much since I use my iPad to watch any videos. I don't use wifi on it much din because it drains the battery faster. I just use my data plan almost exclusively (it's always on when I'm out of the house). I do have a 4000mA mobile battery to recharge the phone (and/or iPad) when i run out of juice. I have the 32Gb model so I have no problem with storage. Besides, I don't really need more disk space since, as I mentioned above, I watch videos on my iPad.

    So far with calls, chatting and browsing all day, plus using the camera (i love the 28mm f/2 lens btw) occasionally the battery last me through the day and most of the evening. Battery is usually around 20% when i get home.

    Dual core ang iphone 5 just like the One XL because they both have LTE - quad cores don't play well with LTEs. Unless the compatibility issue gets resolved soon LTE phones will just keep coming out with dual core processors.
    Thanks sa info sir, ngayon alam ko na kung bakit Dual core lang yung iphone 5. Gumagamit ba kayo ng "battery saver" app? tanong ko sana kung effective yun kasi sa tingin ko din kasama yung wifi sa dahilan kaya medyo magastos ako sa battery (lagi naka-on kapag nasa bahay)hindi ko kasi kaya bayaran yung Php 10/30mins dahil naka prepaid lang ako kaya laging on yung wifi.

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    A updated IPad on the way...and so long to the IPad 2?

    Apple to update existing iPad at next week’s event


    Apple has scheduled an event next week on October 23, which for all intents and purposes is for the upcoming iPad mini. However, it is now being rumored that Apple will be making changes to the existing iPad as well.

    According to 9to5Mac, Apple will be releasing a slightly updated version of the existing iPad, which was released back in March. Although they don’t have the details on the things that will be changed, the presence of the new Lightning connector is said to be the most likely new addition.

    9to5Mac also says that other aspects of the product such as the capacity and the prices will remain the same as they are right now.

    In my opinion, Apple would probably shift the iPad launch date from around March to October, the same time as the new iPad mini. It makes sense to have both products being updated at the same time and shortly after the new iPhone. It also makes sense to have the iPad event after the launch of the new iOS, which usually takes place at the same time as the new iPhone, so that the new iPads would ship with a fresh version of the OS, rather than something that came out several months ago.

    It’s not clear what other changes the new iPad would have other than the Lightning port but if there are any, it would most likely be a new processor. Lastly, it’s also likely that Apple might drop the current iPad 2 altogether and just sell the iPad and the iPad mini. That would also explain why Apple did not call the new iPad the iPad 3.

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    #491
    Quote Originally Posted by LiempoBoi View Post
    Thanks sa info sir, ngayon alam ko na kung bakit Dual core lang yung iphone 5. Gumagamit ba kayo ng "battery saver" app? tanong ko sana kung effective yun kasi sa tingin ko din kasama yung wifi sa dahilan kaya medyo magastos ako sa battery (lagi naka-on kapag nasa bahay)hindi ko kasi kaya bayaran yung Php 10/30mins dahil naka prepaid lang ako kaya laging on yung wifi.
    i don't use any battery saver app. there's a very good chance your wifi is the main culprit of your short battery life. have you tried turning the wifi off and see how long the battery lasts?

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    Hi, this question isn't meant to troll or anything, but what exactly does getting a more expensive Android give over some other phone that's a third of its price?

    I kinda find the larger screen, better camera, and faster hardware to be too marginal given the huge price difference between, say, a Galaxy Ace and a Galaxy S3.

    I'm pretty new to this whole droid ecosystem since I've been a Nokia Symbian user since I was a teenager. Unfortunately my E71 got stolen a few months ago, so I had no choice but to change my phone.

    Originally I was gonna get a BB Curve 9220, but for a little less money I was able to get an HTC Chacha. Sure it only runs on Gingerbread (though I tried an ICS rom but didn't quite like it) and has crappy battery life, but at least it's got the QWERTY form factor that I prize most. Comparing it to more expensive droids, what difference is there in functionality? What exactly can't I do in my cheap phone that I can do with an S3 or One X?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiempoBoi View Post
    Thanks sa info sir, ngayon alam ko na kung bakit Dual core lang yung iphone 5. Gumagamit ba kayo ng "battery saver" app? tanong ko sana kung effective yun kasi sa tingin ko din kasama yung wifi sa dahilan kaya medyo magastos ako sa battery (lagi naka-on kapag nasa bahay)hindi ko kasi kaya bayaran yung Php 10/30mins dahil naka prepaid lang ako kaya laging on yung wifi.
    aside from wifi, be sure that 3G is disabled if you're not browsing thru cellular

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    what difference is there in functionality? What exactly can't I do in my cheap phone that I can do with an S3 or One X?
    It's more of the phone features and OS support for the phone. Let's take this analogy from the previous Symbian OS, particularly Symbian 8...

    Nokia N70, 6630, 6680, uses Symbian 8 OS. Pero among the three, pinaka-mura ang 6630 and pinaka-mahal ang N70, IIRC. 6630 is also 3G that time, pero wala siyang front camera to make 3G calls, and meron lang siyang 1.3MP camera. Bakit mahal ang N70, dahil meron itong front camera, at meron siyang 2MP camera with LED flash, and it is a phone optimized for music. Sa case ng 6680, alam ko walang LED flash ang camera niya, pero 2MP, at meron din siyang front camera, pero hindi siya kagaya ng N70 na optimized for music.

    Hahaha, pasensya na kung sa lumang panahon ko pa nakuha yun analogy ko. Di kasi ako masyadong familiar sa Droid phones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Comparing it to more expensive droids, what difference is there in functionality? What exactly can't I do in my cheap phone that I can do with an S3 or One X?

    A mobile phone is foremost a phone. Any phone can call and text. It depends how you use it. Unless you take advantage of the other features such as websurfing, gaming, video playback, etc...or just want to show off, there is no need for a high end phone.

    It's like why buy a Toyota Camry when a cheap China car can get me from point A to point B...
    Last edited by Monseratto; October 21st, 2012 at 10:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    A mobile phone is foremost a phone. Any phone can call and text. It depends how you use it. Unless you take advantage of the other features such as websurfing, gaming, video playback, etc...or just want to show off, there is no need for a high end phone.

    It's like why buy a Toyota Camry when a cheap China car can get me from point A to point B...
    Agree with the high end phone di naman talaga kelangan, pero kung may business ka at kelangan mo ng mga loyalist you have to get the high end of the high ends para mapaniwala mo silang you are in power. Lalo na sa ballpens, kelangan naka-cross ka na pipirma ng mga contracts. Hehe

    Sa camry naman vs a china car, iba naman yun. Lalo na sa safety features.


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    Quote Originally Posted by roninblade View Post
    i don't use any battery saver app. there's a very good chance your wifi is the main culprit of your short battery life. have you tried turning the wifi off and see how long the battery lasts?
    Quote Originally Posted by ZENMasterTYL View Post
    aside from wifi, be sure that 3G is disabled if you're not browsing thru cellular
    Salamat ulit sa info mga sir. Hindi ko na kinuha yung battery saver app. Try ko yung suggestion niyo tapos update ko kayo kung ano yung result. Pero sa ngayon, tiningnan ko yung battery use dun sa settings. isa rin siguro yung screen kaya malakas sa battery. Minsan ko nalang siguro iwake kapag nakasleep. Napansin ko, kahit hindi nagrurun yung app, kumukuha pa rin ng ram.

    Ito yung screenshots (resized):
    RAM consumption. Yung 200Mb+ kinukuha daw ng Android OS kaya daw lumalabas na 700Mb+


    Battery (Hindi ko alam kung accurate ito)


    Screen Brightness (tiningnan ko yung batter consumption nasa lowest na yung brightness)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Hi, this question isn't meant to troll or anything, but what exactly does getting a more expensive Android give over some other phone that's a third of its price?

    I kinda find the larger screen, better camera, and faster hardware to be too marginal given the huge price difference between, say, a Galaxy Ace and a Galaxy S3.

    I'm pretty new to this whole droid ecosystem since I've been a Nokia Symbian user since I was a teenager. Unfortunately my E71 got stolen a few months ago, so I had no choice but to change my phone.

    Originally I was gonna get a BB Curve 9220, but for a little less money I was able to get an HTC Chacha. Sure it only runs on Gingerbread (though I tried an ICS rom but didn't quite like it) and has crappy battery life, but at least it's got the QWERTY form factor that I prize most. Comparing it to more expensive droids, what difference is there in functionality? What exactly can't I do in my cheap phone that I can do with an S3 or One X?
    not much difference at all with the type of applications that you can run. the difference is in the hardware, you'll get better specs for high end phones which means the phone is more responsive and apps run better/faster. plus, when it comes time to upgrade, lower end phones may not be included when a new OS is rolled out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beni23 View Post
    Agree with the high end phone di naman talaga kelangan, pero kung may business ka at kelangan mo ng mga loyalist you have to get the high end of the high ends para mapaniwala mo silang you are in power. Lalo na sa ballpens, kelangan naka-cross ka na pipirma ng mga contracts. Hehe

    Sa camry naman vs a china car, iba naman yun. Lalo na sa safety features.


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    I think the analogy of high end phones vs high end pens is wrong.

    High end pens still only do one thing, help you write. Its a mark of prestige and luxury.

    But a high end smartphone does more things than just call and txt. It is a convergence device where you can do much more with it than the sum of it's parts. So aside from the obvious call/txt functions, you can browse the internet, chat with people using several software like Skype, etc, read a book, watch a video, listen to music, take pictures, send picture to a friend via internet, bluetooth, NFC, etc, provide internet wifi service to other devices, scan barcodes for other data, record voice/audio, take down notes, daily scheduler, photo/video editor, photo album, weather portal, calculator, currency converter, gaming device, and more.

    It just needs that the user/owner is aware and knowledgable to maximize the use of his device.

    But if the owner/user is just limiting his use to call, txt and to the pre-installed apps, then any basic smartphone would be fine.

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    When it's not broken why change it...Perils of Window 8, a tablet OS turned into a desktop OS.

    It ain't consumer friendly for one thing... Windows 9 anyone?

    Early look at Windows 8 baffles consumers

    10:06AM EDT October 20. 2012 -

    NEW YORK (AP) — The release of Microsoft's Windows 8 operating system is a week away, and consumers are in for a shock. Windows, used in one form or another for a generation, is getting a completely different look that will force users to learn new ways to get things done.

    Microsoft is making a radical break with the past to stay relevant in a world where smartphones and tablets have eroded the three-decade dominance of the personal computer. Windows 8 is supposed to tie together Microsoft's PC, tablet and phone software with one look. But judging by the reactions of some people who have tried the PC version, it's a move that risks confusing and alienating customers.

    Tony Roos, an American missionary in Paris, installed a free preview version of Windows 8 on his aging laptop to see if Microsoft's new operating system would make the PC faster and more responsive. It didn't, he said, and he quickly learned that working with the new software requires tossing out a lot of what he knows about Windows.

    "It was very difficult to get used to," he said. "I have an 8-year-old and a 10-year-old, and they never got used to it. They were like, 'We're just going to use Mom's computer.'"

    Windows 8 is the biggest revision of Microsoft Corp.'s operating system since it introduced Windows 95 amid great fanfare 17 years ago. Ultimately, Windows grew into a $14 billion a year business and helped make former Chief Executive Bill Gates the richest man in the world for a time. Now, due to smartphones and tablets, the personal computer industry is slumping. Computer companies are desperate for something that will get sales growing again. PC sales are expected to shrink this year for the first time since 2001, according to IHS iSuppli, a market research firm.

    The question is whether the new version, which can be run on tablets and smartphones, along with the traditional PC, can satisfy the needs of both types of users.

    "I am very worried that Microsoft may be about to shoot itself in the foot spectacularly," said. Michael Mace, the CEO of Silicon Valley software startup Cera Technology and a former Apple employee. Windows 8 is so different, he said, that many Windows users who aren't technophiles will feel lost, he said.

    Microsoft is releasing Windows 8 on Oct. 26, and it doesn't plan to cushion the impact. Computer companies will make Windows 8 standard on practically all PCs that are sold to consumers.

    Speaking to Wall Street analysts on Thursday, Microsoft's chief financial officer Peter Klein said he isn't very concerned that user confusion could slow the adoption of Windows 8. When Microsoft introduces new features, he said, people eventually realize that "those innovations have delivered way more value, way more productivity and way better usability." That's going to be true of Windows 8 too, he said.

    Instead of the familiar Start menu and icons, Windows 8 displays applications as a colorful array of tiles, which can feature updated information from the applications. For instance, the "Photos" tile shows an image from the user's collection, and the "People" tile shows images from the user's social-media contacts. (Microsoft is licensed to use AP content in the Windows 8 news applications.)

    The tiles are big and easy to hit with a finger — convenient for a touch screen. Applications fill the whole screen by default — convenient for a tablet screen, which is usually smaller than a PC's. The little buttons that surround Windows 7 applications, for functions like controlling the speaker volume, are hidden, giving a clean, uncluttered view. When you need those little buttons, you can bring them out, but users have to figure out on their own how to do it.

    "In the quest for simplicity, they sacrificed obviousness," said Sebastiaan de With, an interface designer and the chief creative officer at app developer DoubleTwist in San Francisco.

    Technology blogger Chris Pirillo posted a YouTube video of his father using a preview version of Windows 8 for the first time. As the elder Pirillo tours the operating system with no help from his son, he blunders into the old "Desktop" environment and can't figure out how to get back to the Start tiles. (Hint: Move the mouse cursor into the top right corner of the screen, then swipe down to the "Start" button that appears, and click it. On a touch screen, swipe a finger in from the right edge of the screen to reveal the Start button.) The four-minute video has been viewed more than 1.1 million times since it was posted in March.

    "There are many things that are hidden," said Raluca Budiu, a user experience specialist with Nielsen Norman Group. "Once users discover them, they have to remember where they are. People will have to work hard and use this system on a regular basis."

    Mace, the software CEO, has used every version of Windows since version 2.0, which came out in 1987. Each one, he said, built upon the previous one. Users didn't need to toss out their old ways of doing things when new software came along. Windows 8 ditches that tradition of continuity, he said.

    "Most Windows users don't view their PCs as being broken to begin with. If you tell them 'Oh, here's a new version of Windows, and you have to relearn everything to use it,' how many normal users are going to want to do that?" he asked.

    The familiar Windows Desktop is still available through one of the tiles, and most programs will open up in that environment. But since the Start button is gone, users will have to flip back and forth between the desktop and the tile screen.

    There's additional potential for confusion because there's one version of Windows 8, called "Windows RT," that looks like the PC version but doesn't run regular Windows programs. It's intended for tablets and lightweight tablet-laptop hybrids.

    Budiu believes the transition to Windows 8 will be most difficult for PC users, because Microsoft's design choices favor touch screens rather than mice and keyboards. Alex Wukovich, a Londoner who tried Windows 8 on a friend's laptop, agrees.

    "On a desktop, it just felt really weird," he said. "It feels like it's a tablet operating system that Microsoft managed to twist and shoehorn onto a desktop."

    Not everyone who has tried Windows 8 agrees with the critics.

    Sheldon Skaggs, a Web developer in Charlotte, N.C., thought he was going to hate Windows 8, but he needed to do something to speed up his 5-year-old laptop. So he installed the new software.

    "After a bit of a learning curve and playing around with it a bit more, you get used to it, surprisingly," he said.

    The computer now boots up faster than it did with Windows Vista, he said.

    Vista was Microsoft's most recent operating-system flop. It was seen as so clunky and buggy when released in 2007 that many PC users sat out the upgrade cycle and waited for Windows 7, which arrived two and a half years later. Companies and other institutions wait much longer than consumers to upgrade their software, and many will keep paying for Windows 7. Many companies are still using Windows XP, released in 2001.

    Colin Gillis, an analyst at BGC Financial, is optimistic about Windows 8, pointing out that it's snappy and runs well on PCs with limited processing power, making it suited for compact, tablet-style machines. But he also notes that through Microsoft's history, roughly every other operating-system release has been a letdown.

    Intel Corp. makes the processors that go into 80 percent of PCs, and has a strong interest in the success of Windows. CEO Paul Otellini said Tuesday that when the company has let consumers try Windows 8 on expensive "ultrabook" laptops with touch screens, "the feedback is universally positive." But he told analysts that he doesn't really know if people will embrace Windows 8 for mainstream PCs.

    "We'll know a lot more about this 90 days from now," he said.

    Copyright 2012 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
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