Laptop budget 30-35k

[ghosthunter]

haha.. ganun?
haha ok meron ako dati old acer wla syang cam.
then yung next is pentium 4 meron na cam
nabenta na kasi luma na palit bago..
by the way wala yan sira nang maibenta. babad pa yan sa akin

ngayon i5 na acer...2 years na pukpukan ang gamit.. still buhay pa din at humihinga haha
gamit sa games, internet, ibat ibang application, lahat lahat ng pwede pag experiment nagawa ko na
wala naman yan sa stat stat .. nasa gumagamit yan
aanhin mo mataas na stat ng quality. kung alam lang gamitin mag internet haha
pati ms office..

Just saying, you only have experienced "acer" period. So how can you say it is better or worst compared to other brands?

[Retz]

mas madami kasi bumibili ng acer brand kaya mataas din ang fail rate? tama ba analogy?

[NiCe2KnowU]

Just saying, you only have experienced "acer" period. So how can you say it is better or worst compared to other brands?

ah ok. linawin ko muna sir ah. wala ako sinabi na mas best ang acer hehe.. ;)
ok, wala naman ako pakialam sa ibang products kung best pa yan sa acer or kung worst ang acer..
sa akin lang may nagtanong e di sinagot ko hehe. (its better kasi mura nyehehehe mas mataas pa specs.) yung TIBAY depende na talaga yan sa gumagamit..

parang ganito....

acer = mura ang price mataas pa ang specs... in short better quality pagdating sa specs then dis advantage tulad ng sabi nyo marami nag claim na sirain sya...

other brands = medyo mahal ng konti medyo mababa specs sa price nya na mahal in short medyo mababa quality nya pagdating sa specs.. advantage hindi sya sirain tulad ng sinabi mo..

kung ako ang gagamit at may pagka techy ako.. dun na ako sa acer hehe..... mas cheaper at mataas ang spec compare sa iba..

[ghosthunter]

ah ok. linawin ko muna sir ah. wala ako sinabi na mas best ang acer hehe.. ;)
ok, wala naman ako pakialam sa ibang products kung best pa yan sa acer or kung worst ang acer..
sa akin lang may nagtanong e di sinagot ko hehe. (its better kasi mura nyehehehe mas mataas pa specs.) yung TIBAY depende na talaga yan sa gumagamit..

parang ganito....

acer = mura ang price mataas pa ang specs... in short better quality pagdating sa specs then dis advantage tulad ng sabi nyo marami nag claim na sirain sya...

other brands = medyo mahal ng konti medyo mababa specs sa price nya na mahal in short medyo mababa quality nya pagdating sa specs.. advantage hindi sya sirain tulad ng sinabi mo..

kung ako ang gagamit at may pagka techy ako.. dun na ako sa acer hehe..... mas cheaper at mataas ang spec compare sa iba..

I have had a couple of ACER laptops in the past and at least one had developed a fault that disabled the backlight on the LCD screen as well as problems with the built-in speaker where they don't produce sound. All that within ACER's warranty period. I had it fixed but it took nearly two months before I got it back, most of the time was just waiting for parts to arrive.

BTW, ACER laptops are priced roughly the same as MSI, ASUS (based on store price surveys I have done in the past). So why is my experience with MSI and ASUS laptops better? Just saying... because I am not even comparing to other brands like SONY, LENOVO, etc. ACER might seem cheaper simply because they omit things from the package, like the OS.

[NiCe2KnowU]

I have had a couple of ACER laptops in the past and at least one had developed a fault that disabled the backlight on the LCD screen as well as problems with the built-in speaker where they don't produce sound. All that within ACER's warranty period. I had it fixed but it took nearly two months before I got it back, most of the time was just waiting for parts to arrive.

BTW, ACER laptops are priced roughly the same as MSI, ASUS (based on store price surveys I have done in the past). So why is my experience with MSI and ASUS laptops better? Just saying... because I am not even comparing to other brands like SONY, LENOVO, etc. ACER might seem cheaper simply because they omit things from the package, like the OS.

tumingin din ako ng price ng ibang brand..
same price but different specs mas ahead ang specs ng acer..
isama pa lahat halos may OS talaga lahat ng ibang brand.kaya plus 3-5k sya hehe.
i dunno kung bakit madaling masira ang acer sayo.. maybe
depende talaga sa paggamit or hindi ka hiyang hehe..
yung ibang brand kasi mas more sila sa gaming or yung iba naman
mas more sa browsing/net speed or i dont know talaga hehe..
baka naman nagkataon lang na nasira sir yung acer mo.
so far so good naman sa akin.. ang technique lang talaga dyan pag bago, gamitin mo ng gamitin.habang may warranty.
i test mo sa limit yang laffy mo kung may warranty, pag hindi pa din bumigay matibay talaga yan
hehe ganyan ako eh.. lahat ng gadgets ko halos bugbug sarado sa akin hehe.. sayang yung warranty
meron nga bumigay yung sa PC ko na dual core imitation haha, nasira yung power supply nya, kaya pinapalitan ko agad sa shop :D

[romeocharlie]

Lenovo z400 or thinkpad b480 / edge e431 depende application needs mo..

Im a lenovo user for 4-5years na wala akong nagiging problema.. Before ako nglenovo, asus ako.. ok din naman, pero wala syang safety features sa wear and tear para sa battery tulad ng sa lenovo..

Plus yung thinkpad afaik 2years ang warranty for your confidence..


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[gearspeed]

Hmmm matignan ko nga rin ang sony na laptop.
Neighbor ko kasi yun ang binili dati.
Mukhang
Asus
Sony
Acer
ang titignan ko this week.

If you have other brands good and bad experience just post it here.

Thanks.

[slapz]

Toshiba laptops for me are still the best, pagdating sa reliability.

I had a Toshiba Satellite laptop, used it for 5 years, sobrang bagal nalang, kaya kelangan ng iretire..

Then I bought an HP Compaq in 2009, buhay pa till now, naka-windows 8 na din, ahaha! yun nga lang, parang CPU nalang sya, kasi nasunog na yung LCD nya, wala ng ilaw. ehehe!

Dito sa office, 3 years na mahigit ang Dell Latitude ko, wala pa din naman breakdown.

Pero wala ng saysay ang laptop ngayon, kasi may tablet naman na. If you need it for games, nothing beats a desktop. Assemble nalang.

[ghosthunter]

tumingin din ako ng price ng ibang brand..
same price but different specs mas ahead ang specs ng acer..
isama pa lahat halos may OS talaga lahat ng ibang brand.kaya plus 3-5k sya hehe.
i dunno kung bakit madaling masira ang acer sayo.. maybe
depende talaga sa paggamit or hindi ka hiyang hehe..
yung ibang brand kasi mas more sila sa gaming or yung iba naman
mas more sa browsing/net speed or i dont know talaga hehe..
baka naman nagkataon lang na nasira sir yung acer mo.
so far so good naman sa akin.. ang technique lang talaga dyan pag bago, gamitin mo ng gamitin.habang may warranty.
i test mo sa limit yang laffy mo kung may warranty, pag hindi pa din bumigay matibay talaga yan
hehe ganyan ako eh.. lahat ng gadgets ko halos bugbug sarado sa akin hehe.. sayang yung warranty
meron nga bumigay yung sa PC ko na dual core imitation haha, nasira yung power supply nya, kaya pinapalitan ko agad sa shop :D

Going back to my posted graph....



Given you only have two acer laptops to speak of.... I have already gone through half a dozen laptops with the following mix of brands: hp, acer, asus, msi... And it seems my personal experience with them does match the chart above (that certain brands are less reliable than others). Hence I cannot recommend ACER as a reliable laptop because the chance of a "malfunction" is higher than in others. Even if you save a couple thousand bucks (because, as you claim, that the acer laptop is a bit cheaper than other brands) is not worth the hassle of waiting 1 to 2 months without your laptop, waiting for replacement parts to arrive (even if it is still within warranty).

Also, it is not that I baby my laptops. They go with me practically everyday wherever I go. That is including trips around the country, abroad and on-board flights as well (watching a few videos) which means it goes through the tumble and jostle like any other bag I have with me.

[ghosthunter]

Toshiba laptops for me are still the best, pagdating sa reliability.

I had a Toshiba Satellite laptop, used it for 5 years, sobrang bagal nalang, kaya kelangan ng iretire..)

Problem with toshiba laptops is they are quite expensive.

[ano727]

Hmmm matignan ko nga rin ang sony na laptop.
Neighbor ko kasi yun ang binili dati.
Mukhang
Asus
Sony
Acer
ang titignan ko this week.

If you have other brands good and bad experience just post it here.

Thanks.

Am also planning to buy one soon, so I asked around various PC shops in Greenhills and in several malls, (and also checked online pricelists). I usually ask them to recommend three most reliable brands based on lower return/defect rate.

Common response I got (outside Apple as I prefer Windows based laptop/ultrabook) was these three brands:
Asus
Sony
Toshiba
Specs can be decided after that.

And based on further research, I'm leaning towards Asus because of reliability stats, and better priced than the other two Japan brands.

Best prices I'm getting for laptops are at Gilmore. Hope this helps.

How about we bundle our purchase, we might get a special price for 2 or more laptops from the same shop at same time.

[greatauror28]

As per my experience using Windows laptops:

MSI - my first ever laptop which was bought last July2009. Got it for 27K with free mouse. After 2 years the hinge broke. Took it to megamall for repair, cost me P2500 IINM. Still functions even now as I've given it to my brother in the PH. Battery life is crappy, can only do 1hr nowadays.

Dell - wifey's first laptop bought here (ordered online thru Dell site). Around $600 that time and it was actually good. Still functions up to this day but much slower, and weaker battery life.

As per experiece repairing laptos:

I think I have repaired about a hundred laptops during my work as a Computer Technician. It ranges from infection from viruses, trojans, reinstalling OSes, installing software and security programs, calibrating and replacing battery life, upgrading RAM, HDD, replacing non-working fans and heatsinks, broken screens, coke-spilled keyboards - the whole nine yards.

Most of the laptops i've repaired were Acers, HPs and e-Machines. For every 10 laptops that went in our shop, 7 of then are Acer.
Not actually bashing Acer for having poor quality, maybe it's their low cost that drives people in buying them.

To sum it up, for 30-35K, find a used 13" macbook or an older 15" macbook pro. They are really durable and withstand the test of time (and user's abuse).
They can be easily upgraded by swapping optical HDDs to SSDs and/or adding more RAM.

[rukawa11]

Most of the laptops i've repaired were Acers, HPs and e-Machines. For every 10 laptops that went in our shop, 7 of then are Acer.
Not actually bashing Acer for having poor quality, maybe it's their low cost that drives people in buying them.

yup, acer, hp and also dell dami nagamit nyan sa pinas kaya mataas din ang defects rate Acer have good quality naman and low cost nga kaya marami nabili, kahit ako ACER gamit ko, meron kasi repair center sa min ASERO repair center nila, kaya pag nasira malapit lang gawaan hehe legit pa, pero so far so good pa din naman
sobra mahal kasi SONY, toshiba laptop sa pinas with low specification sa price nya parang IPHONE hehe

[badkuk]

Parang wala masyadong models ang Asus locally, esp the business class line

[_Qwerty_]

i've had MSI and ACER.. parehong mabilis masira.. better buy something na matibay kahit medyo mahal.. Sony Vaio, Lenovo, Toshiba or Asus for me.. if you have relatives in the states.. mas malaking mura sa bestbuy.. check their prices.. i bought one from bestbuy last year thru my uncle and I got a toshiba 17.3", i7, 8GB memory, 750GB HDD, tft lcd, windows 8 for only $730 including gst, so around 30K lang sya.. dito sa pinas.. nasa 100K sya..

[ghosthunter]

Parang wala masyadong models ang Asus locally, esp the business class line

I think ASUS is relying on the ultrabook series models as their business class laptops. I think it's enough unless you want much bigger screens above the 15 inch sizes.

[Retz]

Ung Toshiba for me is an underrated laptop.

[miLes]

Overall, ACER has a higher defect rate within the first two years.
ASUS has one of the lower defect rate in the same period.
HP and DELL is.... (well).... garbage.

i can attest to asus's durability. my first asus laptop lasted 5 years, i changed it due to upgrade, my current asus has been with me since 2007, havent changed anything except the keyboard which was covered by warranty when i accidentally spilled vinegar on it hehe. this laptop is still working fine, i run it overnight downloading movies, battery is busted tho, will last less than 5mins unplugged, also body has alot of scratches and faded portions, especially near palm rests and touchpad. so my next laptop will be asus again

[miLes]

I currently have an ASUS ZENBOOK which is a higher model of the one you are looking at. It has the same fixed battery, etc. Personally I like the ultrabook format because it is very thin and stylish. I don't miss not having a DVD drive and it even saves some weight not having it on the laptop. For times I do need an optical drive, I have an USB external CD/DVD drive.

As for leaving it plugged in the whole day, not really an issue. My zenbook is almost a year old and battery wear is still under 2%. I leave it plugged in every night and bring the ultrabook with me during the daytime. The only issue I have found is the heat when I am playing graphics heavy games. To fix that, I just use a laptop pad with fans under it when I am playing games.

yes wanted the zenbook too but price is out of my budget which is weird because my last asus laptop i bought costs around 75k, i guess with most laptops pricing around 20-30k ayoko na magspend higher than 40k, i think around 50k+ yan but man, specs rock!

gusto ko rin ng ultrabook, so i guess i will be going with the s46cm, thanks ghosthunter!

[gearspeed]

Nagikot na ako kanina ito yung nakita ko at pinagpipilian ko na

Samsung Ativ Book 4
NP450R4E-X02PH

Specs
Intel Core i5-3230M 2.5Ghz
14"LED
4gb DDR3 RAM
500GB SATA HDD
NVIDA GeForce 710M(2GB)
Card Reader
Webcam
Wifi
Bluetooth
3 Cell Battery
Windows 8
Free Bag
Price 31,900.00

Asus
X450CC

Specs
Intel Core i5-3337
14 inch LED display
4 GB memory
NIVDIA GeForce 720
750GB HDD
8x Super Multi Dual ODD
USB 3.0 Wifi
1 Year Global Warranty
Price 32,995.00

Magaganda yung specs ang pinagkaiba nung 2 500gb lang yung Samsung samantalang 750gb ang hard drive ng Asus.

ok sana yung HP na worth 33k kaso walang dvd writer walang siyang cd.Yung Toshiba 37k ata ang price at hindi maganda specs.Yung Acer kulang specs. Yung Sony 3 na lang na model nandun 25k,54k at 65k.
Dell 37k din at wala sa display dun sa pinuntahan ko pero may Geforce at Intel siya touch screen pa siya.
Ang hahaba kasi nung model number nila kaya hindi ko na matandaan yung models na yun.hahaha.

Yung Samsung ba na Activ Book 4 new arrival ba yun or luma na?
Wala silang brochure eh.