I don't think electric cars will ever replace internal combustion engines

[brushless]

LOL. do you have motor-driven appliances in the house? compare the reliability to your gasoline generators or grasscutters night and day difference

i mean you should know coz your name is brushless haha. they're brushless motors, no brushes to wear out. gearbox is sealed in oil.

of course you'll still wear out wheel bearings and suspension bits. but the motor and drivetrain should last a very long time with NO MAINTENANCE.

parts availability shouldn't be a problem once there's mass adoption

but the biggest issue is battery cost. but since it's a technology that gets cheaper over time then expect it to do just that

You see any electric cars on the road? How many?

If Toyota or Honda starts making electric cars mass production, then, come back here and post high and mighty.

That is, if we are still alive by that time. Lmao!

[chronicle]

EV's are already being developed by big car companies. Surely in the next decade or two, ev's will dominate the car scene.

Plus hanggang ngayon walang classification ang ev sa lto kasi.... Lto sila.

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[brushless]

..."all this expensive cost and trouble to save planet earth.." ?
sir! this earth is the only one we got! whether we like it or not, we got to save it! at all cost!!

Yes, we have to. By all means, I agree.

However, just because the electric car has zero emission doesn't mean it doesn't pollute the environment.

We are merely shifting the pollution process. Manufacturing the batteries, the electronic components and the motor requires the excavation of rare metals. We need to mine tons and tons of earth to get those rare metals and the extraction process to get those metals requires tons and tons of toxic chemical compounds. After getting the rare metals, where do we dump the toxic waste? Precisely. Electric cars requires light metals like aluminum and the extraction process is also very toxic. In fact it doubles the pollution than conventional cars.

Sure, we can make environmental safety measures, but, who is going to monitor the manufacturing process and extraction in China? Who can tell what China can or cannot do? Who will police the factories? Nobody has the balls. Car manufacturers are going to have all their components done in China. If not China, Vietnam, if not Vietnam, Cambodia. They are going to screw up the environment as mining ramps up. Even before one starts the electric car, it has already polluted the environment.

It's either we pollute the air we breathe or we pollute the earth we plant our food on and feed livestock.

However, once the oil runs out, we have no choice but to go to this destructive path.

No, it's not going to a be a green earth future. It's all an illusion.

[dr. d]

Yes, we have to. By all means, I agree.

However, just because the electric car has zero emission doesn't mean it doesn't pollute the environment.

We are merely shifting the pollution process. Manufacturing the batteries, the electronic components and the motor requires the excavation of rare metals. We need to mine tons and tons of earth to get those rare metals and the extraction process to get those metals requires tons and tons of toxic chemical compounds. After getting the rare metals, where do we dump the toxic waste? Precisely. Electric cars requires light metals like aluminum and the extraction process is also very toxic. In fact it doubles the pollution than conventional cars.

Sure, we can make environmental safety measures, but, who is going to monitor the manufacturing process and extraction in China? Who can tell what China can or cannot do? Who will police the factories? Nobody has the balls. Car manufacturers are going to have all their components done in China. If not China, Vietnam, if not Vietnam, Cambodia. They are going to screw up the environment as mining ramps up. Even before one starts the electric car, it has already polluted the environment.

It's either we pollute the air we breathe or we pollute the earth we plant our food on and feed livestock.

However, once the oil runs out, we have no choice but to go to this destructive path.

No, it's not going to a be a green earth future. It's all an illusion.

we just have to clean up our act. that's all.

[Vodka]

You see any electric cars on the road? How many?

If Toyota or Honda starts making electric cars mass production, then, come back here and post high and mighty.

That is, if we are still alive by that time. Lmao!

i saw a few in the bay area. my cousin even has one. how many cars were there towards the end of horse-drawn carriages: a few then in like a decade cars just took over coz you know, horse $hit etc

Yes, we have to. By all means, I agree.

However, just because the electric car has zero emission doesn't mean it doesn't pollute the environment.

We are merely shifting the pollution process. Manufacturing the batteries, the electronic components and the motor requires the excavation of rare metals. We need to mine tons and tons of earth to get those rare metals and the extraction process to get those metals requires tons and tons of toxic chemical compounds. After getting the rare metals, where do we dump the toxic waste? Precisely. Electric cars requires light metals like aluminum and the extraction process is also very toxic. In fact it doubles the pollution than conventional cars.

Sure, we can make environmental safety measures, but, who is going to monitor the manufacturing process and extraction in China? Who can tell what China can or cannot do? Who will police the factories? Nobody has the balls. Car manufacturers are going to have all their components done in China. If not China, Vietnam, if not Vietnam, Cambodia. They are going to screw up the environment as mining ramps up. Even before one starts the electric car, it has already polluted the environment.

It's either we pollute the air we breathe or we pollute the earth we plant our food on and feed livestock.

However, once the oil runs out, we have no choice but to go to this destructive path.

No, it's not going to a be a green earth future. It's all an illusion.

electricity generation is dirty right now but it can get cleaner over time. think solar in the near term and nuclear fusion in the long term. burning fossil fuels is NEVER going to become clean. gets mo yung difference?

lead is very toxic but we have set up a closed-loop recycling process so very little of it gets out. something similar could certainly be done w/ electric car batteries

[E@tpc]

Maybe EV and Hydrogen cars. But for now EVs are still wayyy too expensive to purchase and maintain. Not to mention that our power grid won't have the capacity to support that many charging stations or EVs. Hydrogen is different.. fill er up like a regular gas powered car and its by product is just water.

[brushless]

People are so indoctrinated into thinking that just because something doesn't emit any pollution at all, it must be clean. No pollution? Sure. Wait till you see how they make it in the factory and how much earth they excavate and how much toxic chemicals they use just to extract a tiny amount of rare elements to make EVs.

Same baloney.

[brushless]

Hydrogen is different.. fill er up like a regular gas powered car and its by product is just water.

Thumbs up for hydrogen.

[dr. d]

People are so indoctrinated into thinking that just because something doesn't emit any pollution at all, it must be clean. No pollution? Sure. Wait till you see how they make it in the factory and how much earth they excavate and how much toxic chemicals they use just to extract a tiny amount of rare elements to make EVs.

Same baloney.

i don't know...
looking at an electric motor, and then an internal combustion engine...
it seems to me, it costs more pollution to manufacture a gas engine, than an electric motor.

[Nelson de Leon]

People are so indoctrinated into thinking that just because something doesn't emit any pollution at all, it must be clean. No pollution? Sure. Wait till you see how they make it in the factory and how much earth they excavate and how much toxic chemicals they use just to extract a tiny amount of rare elements to make EVs.

Same baloney.

This may be true. But since the so called "polluting" manufacturers are limited to just a few factories, the pollutants are manageable via government rules and sanctions. Sa internal combustion engine walang control.

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