I don't think electric cars will ever replace internal combustion engines

[brushless]

I actually own two foldable e-scooters for the heck of it. When there's bumper to bumper traffic, I just pull it out from my trunk, let my friend drive my car and off I go to grab a bite. When I'm done, I'll order take out so my friend can eat as well.

At least it's something useful. Not sure where I'm going to throw the battery packs once it's end of life. I have 3 laptops in need of new batteries. Perhaps, I'm simply going to open the old battery cartridge up and see what batteries are inside. Not sure too where I'm going to throw this battery away. I hate junk in my house, so, I guess, the garbage dude can somehow benefit from it? It's all lithium cobalt oxide.

[kisshmet]

^all those industrial wastes end up in a land fill that could leak acid over time which could seep its way to aquifers..there goes saving mother earth with zero emission

not to mention the carbon footprint of assembling a battery

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[JJB]

I actually own two foldable e-scooters for the heck of it. When there's bumper to bumper traffic, I just pull it out from my trunk, let my friend drive my car and off I go to grab a bite. When I'm done, I'll order take out so my friend can eat as well.

At least it's something useful. Not sure where I'm going to throw the battery packs once it's end of life. I have 3 laptops in need of new batteries. Perhaps, I'm simply going to open the old battery cartridge up and see what batteries are inside. Not sure too where I'm going to throw this battery away. I hate junk in my house, so, I guess, the garbage dude can somehow benefit from it? It's all lithium cobalt oxide.

At least youre aware of how to dispose your ewaste the right way.
Here’s one project where they collect ewaste:
The E-Waste Project


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[brushless]

The Tesla battery pack weighs around 1,200 lbs. It contains 7,140 individual battery cells.

There are currently 1.2 billion cars on the road in the world. If we run out of oil and the combustion engine finally phased out, we are looking at 1,440,000,000,000 lbs of Lithium batteries. That's 8,568,000,000,000 battery cells.

But, Lithium is a finite resource. Can we really supply this much? Do the math.



(in metric tons)

Don't forget solar panels need batteries too to give power at night. That will also add to the figure.

Not enough. Hell no. We could recycle to recover Lithium. But, how much will this add to the cost of the vehicle? Someone is going to pay for it, right? How many solar panels are needed to recycle the batteries? How many batteries are needed for the solar panels to run at night?

We go nuclear. It's cheap. But, Fukishima and Chernobyl? Are we ready for a Nuclear powered Philippines?

Headache!

My only solution is to totally phased out cars. Everyone should take the train and ride their bicycles. It will solve finite Lithium supplies.

[jick.cejoco]

There is no point in convincing. Pessimists are going to be pessimists, optimists are going to be optimists. Let technology and the majority decide which one is the less evil idea.


Usually, at this rate, technology wins. Otherwise, you'd still be using typewriters and telegram.

[uls]

Thread: I don't think electric cars will ever replace internal combustion engines


if you're gonna leave it to market forces it will take a long time before electric cars will outnumber ICE cars

but if governments mandate it

if governments force the phaseout of ICE cars...

it's already starting in Europe where they're phasing out diesel cars

Pinas malayo pa...

[jick.cejoco]

Our ancestors were happy with the animal drawn carts and never knew about cars. Leonardo da Vinci thought man could fly by airplane or helicopter, some people around him thought he was crazy. Necessity encourages invention, innovation and technology

[brushless]

No problem with technology and innovation. Back then, people have no ability to destroy the environment as they're just few people around. Earth has enough time to recover.

The problem is we are already reaching 8 billion people with 1 billion driving cars on the road. It's too high demand for our natural resources. We have already sipped out oil all the way to the bottom of the barrel.

Lesser people, lesser headache. What if the world has only 50 million people? We have more than enough natural resources to go around and more than enough time for nature to recuperate and heal.

[uls]

Earth will win

Humans will eventually reduce their numbers by themselves to return to balance with Earth's carrying capacity

Leaving poisoned Earth to colonize other planets is still the realm of science fiction so let's not even talk about that

As human population grows, wars will be fought over limited resources

it's inevitable

major wars will kill large number of people

with fewer people, earth will heal itself

[oj88]

In the Philippines, ICE in general, will still take several more lifetimes before they become a thing of the past.

If you consider our track record:

1. We're still using 2-stroke engines
2. We have 30-40 year-old cars still plying the streets
3. Jeepney phase-out is being met with a lot of push backs
4. We lack the infrastructure (not to mention the space required) to park and charge EVs
5. We don't have a proper recycling process

A lot of these are deeply rooted on our inherent ingenuity... a trait which is what the Pinoys are acclaimed for. It is also the reason why it makes it very difficult to replace busted stuff with one that is more modern in the fear that a new one will cost us a lot. So, we repair everything to death, so to speak.

Whether we like it or not, we are a third-world country. EVs will become no more than a niche market here.... that is if it even reaches mainstream.