I don't think electric cars will ever replace internal combustion engines

[kinyo]

For as long as their cost keeps going down ... then welcome EV cars.

Halos lahat na yata ng major carmakers joined the bandwagon. Some countries have plans to ban ICE on cars na rin. So that is where we're going.

Instead of tune-up, we'll have firmware updates on our cars.

I hope that someday solar energy will provide much of the energy needed by our cars. If we get better batteries and solar panels, performance-wise and cost-wise, we might not need to connect to meralco for charging.

Leave the ICE for those big machines.

[glenn manikis]

Maybe the engine won't be replaced but the source of fuel. Heard about those algae that produces fuel in their poop.

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How many poop do u think will power a 1Mw engine.. for a day? Maybe as big as Q.c. hall.. he he..

[glenn manikis]

oil production depends on demand. we all know what happens when there's oil oversupply. the price crashes and oil production stops being profitable

now take note that solar is right now already cheaper than coal. renewable energy continues getting cheaper while oil keeps getting harder and more expensive to get. see where things are going? at some point in the near future we're definitely going to start dropping oil production for purely economic reasons

take note that we use petro byproducts because they're cheap coz they're byproducts remember LOL. so it's not economically viable to pump oil just to produce these byproducts as "main product". so those lakes of gasoline isn't going to happen LOL

as we taper off oil production the cost of oil byproducts will go up, so the cost of the previously more expensive alternatives start to be become viable. i'm not a chemist but i'm pretty sure we'll find alternatives. it's not like these byproducts contain rare elements or something like that

If solar is cheaper than coal.... then why is it.. we beat solar phils. In an open bidding for A Power supply agreement.. solar phils. their bid was 9.50 per kw hr.

And by the way, Ours is diesel powered.kung sa Diesek hindi sila nanalo.... sa coal pa...

And AFAIK coal powered power plant cost between Php2-2.50 per kwh...

Alternatives...? I dont think so..... kung magkaron man... can it sustain the worlds demand for oil? But
IF ever they discovered or invented one...

Definitely not in our lifetime...

[glenn manikis]

possible, looks like its in a few years, just like fast charging on the our phone, same concept , same lithium batteries, fast charge is 50% 30mins, if we follow moore's law, even though its for processors, most tech companies strive to double their product's performance in 2 years time..if di kayang mag fast charge ng 5 mins, the range might double or triple nsman from 330kms to 1k in less than 5 years..

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For certain products.. its possible but not on Batteries... balik ka po dito after 5 years.... and lets see if there are production cars that can run on a single charge for more than 500kms....

[glenn manikis]

There are modern ships whose engine is partly electric (like the Prius)
Some has an ICE which generates electricity which powers the electric motor
And there are some who are now running on LNG (still ICE but cleaner)

It can run... yes.. but for how many hours... and how big is the capacity... Can it sustain? Of course not...

Chances are... its 99% Diesel powered...

[MR_BIG18]

For certain products.. its possible but not on Batteries... balik ka po dito after 5 years.... and lets see if there are production cars that can run on a single charge for more than 500kms....

pm mo ako bro in 5 years...

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[ice15]

It can run... yes.. but for how many hours... and how big is the capacity... Can it sustain? Of course not...

Chances are... its 99% Diesel powered...

As I said... It's a start...

In reality, companies only build new technologies because they get tax incentives, recognition and good PR.

Will you honestly spend more to save the environment?

As for the ICE, not all fuels are very dirty...

We can use LPG and CNG for small cars which are cleaner, LNG for big machinery

[kinyo]

GENERAL MOTORS IS GOING ALL ELECTRIC

sana tuloy-tuloy na yan ... basta mailower ang cost ng electric car bibilhin yan

[oj88]

Well, going electric may help reduce crude oil consumption. However, we may still run out of something else.

The Supply Chain Can’t Handle Skyrocketing Demand for Lithium-Ion Batteries

Lithium is “the new gasoline,” but our mining infrastructure isn’t designed to handle the electric car revolution.

[makinao]

I plan to buy a new car when I retire in 6 years. If the prices become reasonable, I predict it will at least be a hybrid, and at most electric.

[Dead Guy Sligh]

Interesting tweet from Lynn De Rothschild about the combustion engine.

https://www.economist.com/news/leade...mbustionengine

Perhaps their clan is now investing heavily on Lithium Ion products instead of petroleum.

[ice15]

Report Claims Tesla Model S Is Less Eco-Friendly Than The Mitsubishi Mirage | Car Scoops

MIT Tranick Lab examined multiple factors including how much emissions were created in the vehicle's production and how much emissions would be made when the vehicle was scrapped. They also examined how much CO2 would be produced as a result of powering the vehicle whether it used gasoline or electricity generated by power plants.

[minicarph]

ako din, pero gusto ko maki-ride on sa ejeepney ng gobyerno anything to phase out the jeepneys. tapos bile sila ejeepney tapos hindi makabile ng baterya pag nagluma, then hayun na naayos na PUV system. Isuzu at Toyota na lang mag-provide ng public transpo

[dr. d]

Just consider the math...

A barrel of crude oil yields on average around 45% gasoline/petrol. The rest are jet fuel, Diesel, kerosene, LPG, lubricants, asphalt, etc... along with ingredients to produce a ton of raw materials that we take for granted. Some can be seen here: A partial list of products made from petroleum

The challenge is, what do we do with all the petrol (and all other fuels) that's been 'removed' from crude oil so we can use the remaining ingredients to make, say, bath soaps... or tires?

Unless we can figure out a way to manufacture everyday items without relying on petroleum products and cheaply, petrol and other fuels are here to stay.... and to be consumed.

"throwing away by-products, is nothing new", as long as they can make a profit from the non-by-products.

in the olden days, they used to throw away animal heads and chicken feet, and make a profit from the rest of the animal's parts.
today, they sell the heads and the feet, as well.

same with petroleum.
they'll find a way to make money out of the "by-products".

[Vodka]

Report Claims Tesla Model S Is Less Eco-Friendly Than The Mitsubishi Mirage | Car Scoops

the important thing these BS articles fail to say is that electricity generation can get massively cleaner over time (solar in the near term, possibly fusion in the long term). whereas internal combustion is NEVER going to be clean

[MR_BIG18]

Tesla Unveils New Roadster - YouTube

Boom!!!!

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[zagato0111]

It didn't even take 5 months.. Hahaha! That is one awesome, high mileage electric roadster!

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[brushless]

The biggest problem with electric cars are the parts. It will break down just like any combustion engine. You still have mechanical moving parts that needs replacement or repair. Parts are usually propriety, which means you can't get them from Ebay or Banawe, let alone have a service center or mechanic to do the repair job for you. It's not that they are not willing, but, they don't know how to repair the darn thing. If it's propriety, it usually is very expensive. Battery replacement package on a Tesla will cost you USD20,000 up! You might as well get a wrecked donor car to get your parts if you want to save money.

Forget it. All this expensive cost and trouble to save planet earth. The heck with it. Lol!

Combustion engines are simply practical and cost effective. We just need cleaner fuel.

[Vodka]

The biggest problem with electric cars are the parts. It will break down just like any combustion engine. You still have mechanical moving parts that needs replacement or repair. Parts are usually propriety, which means you can't get them from Ebay or Banawe, let alone have a service center or mechanic to do the repair job for you. It's not that they are not willing, but, they don't know how to repair the darn thing. If it's propriety, it usually is very expensive. Battery replacement package on a Tesla will cost you USD20,000 up! You might as well get a wrecked donor car to get your parts if you want to save money.

Forget it. All this expensive cost and trouble to save planet earth. The heck with it. Lol!

Combustion engines are simply practical and cost effective. We just need cleaner fuel.

LOL. do you have motor-driven appliances in the house? compare the reliability to your gasoline generators or grasscutters night and day difference

i mean you should know coz your name is brushless haha. they're brushless motors, no brushes to wear out. gearbox is sealed in oil.

of course you'll still wear out wheel bearings and suspension bits. but the motor and drivetrain should last a very long time with NO MAINTENANCE.

parts availability shouldn't be a problem once there's mass adoption

but the biggest issue is battery cost. but since it's a technology that gets cheaper over time then expect it to do just that

[dr. d]

The biggest problem with electric cars are the parts. It will break down just like any combustion engine. You still have mechanical moving parts that needs replacement or repair. Parts are usually propriety, which means you can't get them from Ebay or Banawe, let alone have a service center or mechanic to do the repair job for you. It's not that they are not willing, but, they don't know how to repair the darn thing. If it's propriety, it usually is very expensive. Battery replacement package on a Tesla will cost you USD20,000 up! You might as well get a wrecked donor car to get your parts if you want to save money.

Forget it. All this expensive cost and trouble to save planet earth. The heck with it. Lol!

Combustion engines are simply practical and cost effective. We just need cleaner fuel.

in the early days of the motorcar, they broke down every week. today's break-down average is much better now.

same with electric cars. they are just a'bornin'.
wait 50 years...

..."all this expensive cost and trouble to save planet earth.." ?
sir! this earth is the only one we got! whether we like it or not, we got to save it! at all cost!!