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    Cars possible..

    But heavy equipment.. impossible yan...

    Especially large capacity diesel engine... ex. 1Mw

    If ever... Yung battery will be as big as a 14 storey bldg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    Cars possible..

    But heavy equipment.. impossible yan...

    Especially large capacity diesel engine... ex. 1Mw

    If ever... Yung battery will be as big as a 14 storey bldg.
    Yup,- for all its worth,- battery technology is still way way behind the current technology-requirements.

    Matter-AntiMatter powerplant-reactor modulated by dilithium crystals comes to mind...

    "Beam me up Scotty"....

    There has to be a jump in technology to obsolete fossil fuels...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post


    Yup,- for all its worth,- battery technology is still way way behind the current technology-requirements.

    Matter-AntiMatter powerplant-reactor modulated by dilithium crystals comes to mind...

    "Beam me up Scotty"....

    There has to be a jump in technology to obsolete fossil fuels...
    wait 'til they can replicate dilithium crystals. that way, they won't have to mine it anymore. (sa TNG yata, replicable na.)
    bagsak presyo ng dilithium sa galactic market.

    btw, what fuel did cochrane use, that first, fateful time...?

    as an aside...
    "tobacco? nobody cultivates that toxic plant now! but i suppose we can scrounge up a few leaves.. they're weeds now, growing in small patches here and there..."

    OT. back to regular programming.
    Last edited by dr. d; September 22nd, 2017 at 10:14 AM.

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    toyota is close to releasing their solid state batteries 😁

    hyundai ioniq has the best miles-per-kwh

    gotta love tech 😊

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    the only thing thats keeping people from buying electric cars is price, due to the cost of lithium batteries, that will change soon, the only reason why the americans are in afganisthan, they found a vain of lithium worth more than a trillion dollars there....galing talaga ni bush

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    Quote Originally Posted by oj88 View Post
    "Produce a lot less plastic bags" is oversimplifying it. We still need plastic for almost everything. Products from petroleum are everywhere, used in our daily lives. It's been said that there are over 6,000 items that are, one way or another, came from or was processed using crude oil.

    Drilling for oil is not going to stop or slow down for EV. And without internal combustion engines to burn up the petrol, we'd literally have lakes of unused "undesired" gasoline and other fuels. Imagine what that will do to the environment.
    oil production depends on demand. we all know what happens when there's oil oversupply. the price crashes and oil production stops being profitable

    now take note that solar is right now already cheaper than coal. renewable energy continues getting cheaper while oil keeps getting harder and more expensive to get. see where things are going? at some point in the near future we're definitely going to start dropping oil production for purely economic reasons

    take note that we use petro byproducts because they're cheap coz they're byproducts remember LOL. so it's not economically viable to pump oil just to produce these byproducts as "main product". so those lakes of gasoline isn't going to happen LOL

    as we taper off oil production the cost of oil byproducts will go up, so the cost of the previously more expensive alternatives start to be become viable. i'm not a chemist but i'm pretty sure we'll find alternatives. it's not like these byproducts contain rare elements or something like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vodka View Post
    oil production depends on demand. we all know what happens when there's oil oversupply. the price crashes and oil production stops being profitable

    now take note that solar is right now already cheaper than coal. renewable energy continues getting cheaper while oil keeps getting harder and more expensive to get. see where things are going? at some point in the near future we're definitely going to start dropping oil production for purely economic reasons

    take note that we use petro byproducts because they're cheap coz they're byproducts remember LOL. so it's not economically viable to pump oil just to produce these byproducts as "main product". so those lakes of gasoline isn't going to happen LOL

    as we taper off oil production the cost of oil byproducts will go up, so the cost of the previously more expensive alternatives start to be become viable. i'm not a chemist but i'm pretty sure we'll find alternatives. it's not like these byproducts contain rare elements or something like that
    Good luck replacing petrochem to manufacture the countless raw and finished materials that requires it. There had been alternatives to the use of petrochem. Yes, I did have to research, but the sustainability for it to totally replace crude oil is questionable. It's what's referred to as the Fischer–Tropsch process, where coal, natgas, or biomass are converted to hydrocarbons. But simply put, that will just put us in the same predicament.

    Fischer-Tropsch feedstock can essentially consist of any material containing carbon. The most common feedstock materials are coal, natural gas (methane), and more recently biomass. Of these three, coal and natural gas are both geological and will eventually be depleted with varying time tables. Biomass is renewable; however when it becomes the only major available feedstock, synthetic fuel production will be limited by the availability of the biomass material.
    From: Fischer-Tropsch Sustainability

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    dunno why this is even an issue

    the global economy runs on carbon (oil, coal, natgas, whatever)

    electric cars barely make a dent in lessening global burning of carbon

    ocean freight -- those ships that carry container vans from port to port, you gonna put electric motors on them?

    airliners -- you gonna power them with solar panels and electric motors?

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    electric cars will be the death of oil?


    don't believe the hype

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I don't think electric cars will ever replace internal combustion engines