I don't think electric cars will ever replace internal combustion engines

[oj88]

Just consider the math...

A barrel of crude oil yields on average around 45% gasoline/petrol. The rest are jet fuel, Diesel, kerosene, LPG, lubricants, asphalt, etc... along with ingredients to produce a ton of raw materials that we take for granted. Some can be seen here: A partial list of products made from petroleum

The challenge is, what do we do with all the petrol (and all other fuels) that's been 'removed' from crude oil so we can use the remaining ingredients to make, say, bath soaps... or tires?

Unless we can figure out a way to manufacture everyday items without relying on petroleum products and cheaply, petrol and other fuels are here to stay.... and to be consumed.

[lowslowbenz]

How Much Oil is Left in the world? | Auto Expert John Cadogan | Australia - YouTube

[uls]

the shift to electric cars won't be because the Earth runs out of oil

there's still lot dead things in the ground

the shift to electric cars will be coz of government

Governments can force the phase out of ICE vehicles and car manufacturers will have to comply

[ice15]

They will not go 100%, but first world cities will make them harder to own...

Singapore is letting go of some car models as they do not comply with Euro-6... Some establishments even provide better parking slots for plug-in electric vehicles.

I honestly don't think any Manila/Philippine Mayor will have the b*11$ to prohibit internal combustion engines in their city.

Countries like ours will never let go of the internal combustion engine... Best case scenario for us are LPG/CNG (LNG for heavy vehicles).

[uls]

Pinas sobra malabo

pwede Germany, Norway, UK, France

pati China

China looks at ending sales of gasoline cars

China is joining France and Britain in announcing plans to end sales of gasoline and diesel cars.

China's industry ministry is developing a timetable to end production and sale of traditional fuel cars and will promote development of electric technology, state media on Sunday cited a Cabinet official as saying.
The reports gave no possible target date, but Beijing is stepping up pressure on automakers to accelerate development of electrics.

[uls]

point is, humans won't likely survive long enough to burn all the oil in the world

it took billions of years for plants to take enough carbon from the atmosphere to make Earth liveable for us

for the past 300 years we've been burning dead plants and releasing the carbon they trapped

even before burning up all the dead plants, the earth will already become uninhabitable for humans

[SalesRep]

Pinas sobra malabo

pwede Germany, Norway, UK, France

pati China

China looks at ending sales of gasoline cars

They might.. But not yet. Not when we have very powerful fuel engines.. 1KD and 2Jz turbo engines
I have them in stock.. Try them! U won't see the use of electric cars

[uls]

who the hell is gonna buy a supra engine these days

[oj88]

How Much Oil is Left in the world? | Auto Expert John Cadogan | Australia - YouTube

Exactly!! :D

[yebo]

not unless they come up with a battery that can be fully charged from near depleted in 5 minutes (or the time it takes you to get a full tank), no i don't think so. nobody would want to stop a journey for 4 or 5 hours midway so you can plug in.

and don't even think about hydrogen. nothing has been invented yet that can hold those small molecules and does not need to be replaced every 2 or 3 years.

[MR_BIG18]

not unless they come up with a battery that can be fully charged from near depleted in 5 minutes (or the time it takes you to get a full tank), no i don't think so. nobody would want to stop a journey for 4 or 5 hours midway so you can plug in.

and don't even think about hydrogen. nothing has been invented yet that can hold those small molecules and does not need to be replaced every 2 or 3 years.

possible, looks like its in a few years, just like fast charging on the our phone, same concept , same lithium batteries, fast charge is 50% 30mins, if we follow moore's law, even though its for processors, most tech companies strive to double their product's performance in 2 years time..if di kayang mag fast charge ng 5 mins, the range might double or triple nsman from 330kms to 1k in less than 5 years..

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[glenn manikis]

possible, looks like its in a few years, just like fast charging on the our phone, same concept , same lithium batteries, fast charge is 50% 30mins, if we follow moore's law, even though its for processors, most tech companies strive to double their product's performance in 2 years time..if di kayang mag fast charge ng 5 mins, the range might double or triple nsman from 330kms to 1k in less than 5 years..

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For certain products.. its possible but not on Batteries... balik ka po dito after 5 years.... and lets see if there are production cars that can run on a single charge for more than 500kms....

[Vodka]

not unless they come up with a battery that can be fully charged from near depleted in 5 minutes (or the time it takes you to get a full tank), no i don't think so. nobody would want to stop a journey for 4 or 5 hours midway so you can plug in.

and don't even think about hydrogen. nothing has been invented yet that can hold those small molecules and does not need to be replaced every 2 or 3 years.

long-distances can be covered in one charge if you have a sufficiently large battery pack. for the vast majority who travel short distances only then an electric car w/ small/medium size batteries would be perfect

now for that once-a-year super long drive then yes you'll have to charge midway while eating lunch or something

[minicarph]

ako din, pero gusto ko maki-ride on sa ejeepney ng gobyerno anything to phase out the jeepneys. tapos bile sila ejeepney tapos hindi makabile ng baterya pag nagluma, then hayun na naayos na PUV system. Isuzu at Toyota na lang mag-provide ng public transpo

[brushless]

The biggest problem with electric cars are the parts. It will break down just like any combustion engine. You still have mechanical moving parts that needs replacement or repair. Parts are usually propriety, which means you can't get them from Ebay or Banawe, let alone have a service center or mechanic to do the repair job for you. It's not that they are not willing, but, they don't know how to repair the darn thing. If it's propriety, it usually is very expensive. Battery replacement package on a Tesla will cost you USD20,000 up! You might as well get a wrecked donor car to get your parts if you want to save money.

Forget it. All this expensive cost and trouble to save planet earth. The heck with it. Lol!

Combustion engines are simply practical and cost effective. We just need cleaner fuel.

[Vodka]

The biggest problem with electric cars are the parts. It will break down just like any combustion engine. You still have mechanical moving parts that needs replacement or repair. Parts are usually propriety, which means you can't get them from Ebay or Banawe, let alone have a service center or mechanic to do the repair job for you. It's not that they are not willing, but, they don't know how to repair the darn thing. If it's propriety, it usually is very expensive. Battery replacement package on a Tesla will cost you USD20,000 up! You might as well get a wrecked donor car to get your parts if you want to save money.

Forget it. All this expensive cost and trouble to save planet earth. The heck with it. Lol!

Combustion engines are simply practical and cost effective. We just need cleaner fuel.

LOL. do you have motor-driven appliances in the house? compare the reliability to your gasoline generators or grasscutters night and day difference

i mean you should know coz your name is brushless haha. they're brushless motors, no brushes to wear out. gearbox is sealed in oil.

of course you'll still wear out wheel bearings and suspension bits. but the motor and drivetrain should last a very long time with NO MAINTENANCE.

parts availability shouldn't be a problem once there's mass adoption

but the biggest issue is battery cost. but since it's a technology that gets cheaper over time then expect it to do just that

[dr. d]

The biggest problem with electric cars are the parts. It will break down just like any combustion engine. You still have mechanical moving parts that needs replacement or repair. Parts are usually propriety, which means you can't get them from Ebay or Banawe, let alone have a service center or mechanic to do the repair job for you. It's not that they are not willing, but, they don't know how to repair the darn thing. If it's propriety, it usually is very expensive. Battery replacement package on a Tesla will cost you USD20,000 up! You might as well get a wrecked donor car to get your parts if you want to save money.

Forget it. All this expensive cost and trouble to save planet earth. The heck with it. Lol!

Combustion engines are simply practical and cost effective. We just need cleaner fuel.

in the early days of the motorcar, they broke down every week. today's break-down average is much better now.

same with electric cars. they are just a'bornin'.
wait 50 years...

..."all this expensive cost and trouble to save planet earth.." ?
sir! this earth is the only one we got! whether we like it or not, we got to save it! at all cost!!

[jick.cejoco]

Oil industry is finally starting to be affected by Norway’s rapid electric car adoption | Electrek

[Vodka]

The challenge is, what do we do with all the petrol (and all other fuels) that's been 'removed' from crude oil so we can use the remaining ingredients to make, say, bath soaps... or tires?

well it's the other way around. the byproducts from fuels production are cheap coz we use up so much fossil fuels. once we taper off fossil fuel production then these byproducts will go up in price. the market will readjust and we'll have to find possibly more expensive alternatives but it'll be better for humanity in the long run. we'd produce a lot less plastic bags, that's a good thing right

[oj88]

well it's the other way around. the byproducts from fuels production are cheap coz we use up so much fossil fuels. once we taper off fossil fuel production then these byproducts will go up in price. the market will readjust and we'll have to find possibly more expensive alternatives but it'll be better for humanity in the long run. we'd produce a lot less plastic bags, that's a good thing right

"Produce a lot less plastic bags" is oversimplifying it. We still need plastic for almost everything. Products from petroleum are everywhere, used in our daily lives. It's been said that there are over 6,000 items that are, one way or another, came from or was processed using crude oil.

Drilling for oil is not going to stop or slow down for EV. And without internal combustion engines to burn up the petrol, we'd literally have lakes of unused "undesired" gasoline and other fuels. Imagine what that will do to the environment.