Globe moves to cap Internet data volume

[Haruto]

Haha! old school. naaalala ko pa yung weird sounds na ginagawa ng modem para kumonek ) ehehhe tapos kapag 12mn to 6am free unlimited and mabilis so nung time na yun ako lagi nag oonline at nagoonline games ) wahahhaha

[tidus1203]

I remember using my dial up to play ONE on ONE Starcraft against my friend or cousins... Paminsan Battle.NET in DIABLO (the original) maskin pirated copy ko kasi wala pang authentication dati!

Then your sister picks up the phone, and there goes your intense Starcraft battle! :evil:

[digitalron]

14.4 kbaud FTW!

I was using "shotgun" technology for 28.8 kbaud speeds using two 14.4 modems and two phone lines at the same time in parallel. Astig!

That is indeed a massive upgrade from the 2400 baud acoustic couplers I used during my BBS days... complete with suction cups mounted to the ear and mouthpiece of a rotary phone, hehe!


BTT

I'm currently looking at my WeRoam statistics and see that I average around 2-3 GB a day for work-related stuff. Now I'm not using it exclusively as I am for the most part using my company's Quad-DS3 for work. But for the short times I'm out of the office, or when I'm home, I easily accumulate 2-3 GBs a day just moving files via VPN and loading up online development resources from Microsoft, Oracle, IBM, and a host of Open source stuff, and doing Skype calls... all that on a WeRoam. Imagine people who rely entirely on their DSL connections for even more stuff.

The government should really look into the various straw man arguments being bandied about by these slimeball ISPs and push for consumer protection.

[Ry_Tower]

Its just another lame excuse to increase their profitability by taking that fake moral high ground route by feigning a false sense of moral authority in this matter. Like they really care what people do or download online. As if these telcos owners/employees, don't do anything differently in their personal internet use compared to the rest of the population.

In the Philippines, we pay a higher rate for internet services that are not even 10% of the speed of what other countries offer like in Hong Kong. In HK, the internet is so fast that downloading terabytes per month is possible. And no bandwidth capping is involved.

If they want to cap the bandwidth then they better improve their service (if it exists) and ante up the bandwidth speed, commensurate to what the consumers are paying these telecos. NTC (another lame duck gov't org.) should look into this matter, if ite even fair in the consumer's interest.

+1, kalokohan yan. Eh di yung lagyan nila ng mataas na rate ay yung kumikita sa internet Peor yung households na personal use lang wala dapat. la nga ganyan sa japan eh. Mas disiplinado pa sila ha.

[hondaboot]

Ayala needs to cap bec. their movie houses are close to vacant during weekdays.

their malls are less visited and their tenants are not earning bec. people choose to stay * home and surf. same instant gratification which is entertainment.

that's the problem with the Ayala business: they have more to lose than Smart - Sun - PLDT combined

what they are doing is a risk by itself bec. they are counting on the possibility that the Smart-PLDT giant will do the same on the idea that they will profit more in the long run.

but I doubt that. if you ask me Globe internet is digging its own grave. that Pangilinan fellow is a Genghis Khan. i say let them cap

[froshie1]

Bandwidth is a finite resource so ISPs need to cap. Capping is already present since day 1 of operations of all ISPs. Do you know why? Because without this caps, simple actions such as browsing a simple webpage won't be possible. Speed caps are also known as traffic shaping.

I'm all for bandwidth caps for as long as it will make our connections very reliable. Almost zero downtime. I'm all for caps!

[roninblade]

I'm all for bandwidth caps for as long as it will make our connections very reliable. Almost zero downtime. I'm all for caps!

you're dreaming about zero downtime dude.

[froshie1]

you're dreaming about zero downtime dude.

Zero downtime is a dream. Almost zero is possible.

Anyway, yang caps na yan. lumang balita na yan mga tol. Day 1 pa lang ng operations ng isang ISP eh may caps na aka traffic shaping.

[ghosthunter]

Bandwidth is a finite resource so ISPs need to cap. Capping is already present since day 1 of operations of all ISPs. Do you know why? Because without this caps, simple actions such as browsing a simple webpage won't be possible. Speed caps are also known as traffic shaping.

I'm all for bandwidth caps for as long as it will make our connections very reliable. Almost zero downtime. I'm all for caps!

You're dreaming if you think bandwidth capping would result in zero downtime.

All it would do is to put more money into the pockets of the ISPs for doing absolutely nothing to actually improve their service.

[j.caine]

im a globe internet subscriber - 3bmps speed and this is just bad news. bad bad bad news. ive been with globe for 3 years na...

[Big_daddy]

Pera...pera...pera...ako nga eh supersurf50 lang gamit ko kasi bihira ako gumamit sa bahay...800MB limit...no ******* or whatever...mostly eh gamit sya for research for my son...less than 12 hours ubos na...cut na agad.

I hope they choke to death while dreaming up these money making schemes.

[froshie1]

Well ganun talaga eh.. Nangyari diyan, the caps of yesteryears eh hindi na pupwede sa demand ngayon.

Peeps, caps are already in place before pa. Di lang alam ng ordinary user ito. Without the caps, impossible ng makabrowse man lang. Remember, bandwidth is a finite resource. The mere fact that you're subscribe to X number of megabits eh cap na iyon. And within that X number of megabits may caps pa na ginagawa yan. Let me explain kung ano ibig sabihin ko dito..

Let say sa isang 1megabit connection..

Youtube - 10kbps lang.
Port 80 or browsing - 20kbps
*******s - 30kbps-40kbps
Emails - 5kbps
and so on and so forth..

Naka cap yan or better known as traffic shaping sa mga ISPs ng hindi nyo lang nalalaman.

Caps will make our connections reliable. Why? Because it will enable the ISPs to allocate more efficiently the finite bandwidth to its subscribers. Getting a lot of international gateway and bandwidth won't work if caps are not present. Simply because bandwidth purchased outside is also a limited resource.

Network abusers ang tatamaan dito but if they want some more then they just have to pay more.

[froshie1]

Btw, kahit ano pang ISP yan sa kahit anong bansa. May traffic shaping yan. Iyon nga lang mas mataba ang bandwidth nila kaysa sa sa atin.. pero again, gaano man kataba ang bandwidth eh finite resource pa rin ito kaya kailangan i-cap or i-shape.

[ghosthunter]

"Traffic shaping" is just a invented term to replace bandwidth throttling.

With bandwidth throttling, the ISP limited your data download/upload speeds. Just is similar to turning a valve on your water hose to slow down the rate of water flowing through it.

But with the data cap, it is now like the ISP giving you a bucket to place at the end of the hose. Once your bucket is full, your water supply is cut off.

Internet bandwidth is a finite resource in terms that you can only "flow" so much at one time. But the total volume amount of data can be infinite. So why resort to data capping when the problem is flow at certain times of day?

In fact the problem is peak loading which seems to be between 5pm and 10pm at night. Isn't that because people go home and use their internet for their legitimate uses? Just the sheer number of subscribers is the problem. The ISP has over-subscribed their resource beyond it's capacity to deliver promised bandwidth.

The usual scapegoat is the illegal downloader, much like the old scapegoat of PLDT of the tele-babad user of their old analog phone lines clogging up the system. It is just an excuse NOT to upgrade their system to meet up with the user/subscriber service demand on their system.

[ghosthunter]

Btw, kahit ano pang ISP yan sa kahit anong bansa. May traffic shaping yan. Iyon nga lang mas mataba ang bandwidth nila kaysa sa sa atin.. pero again, gaano man kataba ang bandwidth eh finite resource pa rin ito kaya kailangan i-cap or i-shape.

In other countries, the bandwidth the ISP provides is ten times bigger than what we have here.

Internet bandwidth is a limited flow issue, not a limited data volume issue. So why limit the volume?

[CVT]

May mga lean hours naman iyan,- so dapat magamit din iyon, di ba? Else, lost capacity/volume na iyon....

12.7K:fart1:

[ghosthunter]

May mga lean hours naman iyan,- so dapat magamit din iyon, di ba? Else, lost capacity/volume na iyon....

12.7K:fart1:

Wag! ... that's when we online gamers enjoy the best connection speeds.

[CVT]

Kaya nga bro.GH,- magamit ang capacity,- ipagamit sa mga online gamers...

12.7K:fart1:

[Ry_Tower]

I think its being implemented already, slow browsing na ako if sabay yung pagdownload eh.

[Monseratto]

Why don't they go after those with OpenVPN and FBT/UBT cracks?