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**newbie13** · July 30th, 2003 04:16 PM

parang galing sa Taken ni spielberg hehe..just buy the case di naman kita ang inside eh. Much cooler if you can install a cathode parang yung eyes nya glowing hahaha...

**sup** · July 30th, 2003 04:21 PM

o nga sir newbie, like pk asked, what are your feedbacks on the fx5600? will use this mostly for games. i dont use 3d based programs naman e, microsoft office lang. wacha think?

**pajerokid** · July 30th, 2003 04:32 PM

sup:: Maganda rin feedback sa FX5600 Ultra. DX9 compliance means you'll see a lot more details and tricks (on DX9 games, na wala pa). Pero kung speed at speed, ATI talaga mas mabilis. Meron FX5800... 256MB DDR2 RAM. but i doubt if anyone is crazy enough to buy this, coz for the price, pwede ka nang mag palit ng CPU, MOBO and RAM :D

**newbie13** · July 30th, 2003 04:33 PM

it's nice to see very cool and smooth graphics on
4xAA 4xAF on all games using FX5600 * 350/600

Just save the money and get the Gainward Ti4400 for almost half the price of the FX5600.

Currently there are no games that fully support DX9 yet. So you're probably paying P5,000 more for just the AA and AF? Is it worth it for you?

Depends on where you'll be contented.just my 2 cents...

If you're going to play Half-life 2 or Doom 3 go for Radeon 9700 PRO or higher card, kasi pagbumili ka ng mas mababa na card cgurado bebenta mo rin rin yan paglabas ng Half-Life 2 or Doom 3.
hehe bilis mag depreciate din...kainis noh?

**newbie13** · July 30th, 2003 04:35 PM

In need of a budget card? Check out this head to head comparison of the offerings from nVidia and ATI.

The FX5200 (new core, but crippled) supports vertex and pixel shader versions 2.0+ like its elders, the 5600 and 5900, while the R9200 (old core, but upgraded, but not much) only supports vertex shader 1.1 and pixel shader 1.4. Since both cards cost about the same, once again, the FX5200 is the better video card, from a value perspective.

http://www.ocaddiction.com/reviews/video/fx5200vsr9200/

**pajerokid** · July 30th, 2003 04:38 PM

Oo nga. its a pity to see your state of the art, hard earned system become obsolete in a couple of months.... but hey, computers were that way ever since hehehe :D Ngayon lang nga, ang bilis talaga ng rollout ng bagong HW.

Oks na sakin yung budget cards. I'll just wait for someone to sell a second hand high end card... marami rin akong kilalang maluho sa kompyuter. :D

**newbie13** · July 30th, 2003 04:49 PM

if you're favorite game is 3dmark2k1, the ti4400 is for you, but if you're after AA and AF, the FX series (5600 and above) is for you (but of course, you're better off with a radeon ;P)

ako gamit ko ti4200 pero oc na better than 4400 pa!!1 kaya lang unstable sa 3dapps ko like Autocadd..

Get the 5600-ultra naland sup!!

**pajerokid** · July 30th, 2003 05:59 PM

Dudes, Question on nForce2 based MOBOs.....

Does IGP mean na meron nang built in vidcard yung MOBO?

**mbt** · July 30th, 2003 08:18 PM

pajerokid,

yes... in the case of the nForce2 IGP, it's an integrated GeForce4 MX (take note that the video RAM is shared with the system RAM though, and the dual-channel DDR design requires two identical RAM modules for maximum performance)

yung nForce2 SPP northbridge yung walang on-board video... most of the high-end mobos come with this northbridge

**pajerokid** · July 30th, 2003 08:26 PM

mbt::: hmmm. so i'd be after an SPP northbridge. Im planning to get a new mobo as well.... but i wont be upgrading my 1.3GHz cpu yet coz of budget constraints.

Have you found your mobo yet? The only ones i came across were made by MSI and Epox. I have no idea which is better.

**pajerokid** · July 30th, 2003 08:35 PM

Pasensya na sa mga tanong..... which would be the best buy among the FF??? Cost is not a factor. Fear is a factor :D

Im not into firewire, lan or any extra stuff. I just want the FASTEST :D

Epox EP-8RDA+ nForce2 (Socket A)

Manufacturer: Epox, Model: EP-8RDA+, Chipset: nForce2 MCP-T, Bus Speed: 333Mhz, Slot Type: Socket A, Form Factor: ATX, RAM: 3xDDR, Built-in Sound: Yes
Price: P 5,250.00

Epox EP-8RGA+ nForce2 (Socket A)

Manufacturer: Epox, Model: EP-8RGA+, Chipset: nForce2 MCP-T, Bus Speed: 333Mhz, Slot Type: Socket A, Form Factor: ATX, RAM: 3xDDR, Built-in Sound: Yes
Price: P 6,950.00

Epox EP-8RDA3+ nForce2 (Socket A)

Manufacturer: Epox, Model: EP-8RDA3+, Chipset: nForce2-SPP, Bus Speed: 400Mhz, Slot Type: Socket A, Form Factor: ATX, RAM: 3xDDR, Built-in Sound: Yes
Price: P 6,100.00

Epox EP-8RDA+Rev2 nForce2 (Socket A)

Manufacturer: Epox, Model: EP-8RDA+Rev2, Chipset: nForce2 Ultra 400, Bus Speed: 400Mhz, Slot Type: Socket A, Form Factor: ATX, RAM: 3xDDR, Built-in Sound: Yes
Price: P 5,150.00

also, whats the diff and the fastest between the ff chipsets?

nForce2 Ultra 400, nForce2-SPP, nForce2-MCP-T

sensya na, im thoroughly confused

**mbt** · July 30th, 2003 09:13 PM

the nForce2 system is composed of a northbridge and a southbridge... the nForce2-SPP is a northbridge without the onboard video.

the nForce2-Ultra 400 is an nForce2 SPP that has been validated to run at a 200 MHz DDR front-side bus speed (for 200 MHz DDR AthlonXP cpus).

the MCP-T is the nForce2 southbridge that includes the sophisticated nForce2 audio processor. the MCP is the southbridge without the audio.

the best combination for the power user would be the nForce2 ultra 400 northbridge and either the MCP-T southbridge (if you have speakers with a digital input and wish to use the onboard audio) or MCP or MCP-T if you have an add-on card you wish to use, like, say, a Creative Audigy 2.

using the analog outputs of most MCP-T mobos would cripple the nForce2 audio a bit, since the digital/analog decoder is handled by a 3rd-party processor on the mobo (usually C-Media) and the performance of that decoder isn't up to par with high-end Sound Blasters and similar cards. however, the C-Media chip is only the analog decoder; the sound processing is still done by the MCP-T southbridge. using speakers with a digital input completely bypasses the decoder and so the sound of the MCP-T is "purer".

Epox is known for the fastest performance and excellent overclockability with average stability; MSI is known for flawless stability with average performance.

**pajerokid** · July 30th, 2003 09:22 PM

Okay, that cleared things up a lot. Im not a fan of onboard anything eh. I have an SB-Live DE soundcard and a bnew FX graphics card, which i dont want to waste, so i guess my choice would be an nForce Ultra 400 board with MCP?

now..... about the budget...... :D :D :D

**mbt** · July 30th, 2003 09:35 PM

kaso karamihan nung mga high-end enthusiast mobos, equipped with the nForce2 SPP and MCP-T... the southbridge is no big deal, though, really... pwede naman i-disable yung onboard sound

**pajerokid** · July 30th, 2003 09:40 PM

More or less nasa 1.5k lang difference sa price...

Anyway, here's a good summary of ALL GPUs and VPUs....

http://www.tech-report.com/etc/comparo/graphics/

deym! wish i saw this a week back!

**newbie13** · July 31st, 2003 12:00 AM

Why not these board mga bro?MSI K7N2 Delta-L - P5,200

To complete the AMD platform, IMHO to choose the MSI K7N2 Delta-L, which is based on the nForce2 Ultra 400. The board comes with official 400 MHz bus speed that allows the board to run faster Bartons (those running at 400 MHz bus). There is no doubt that the nForce2 Ultra 400 is the fastest chipset for the Athlon XP right now, with VIA admitting that even the KT600 wouldn't be able to put up a fight.

The board comes with a bevy of features which include dual-DDR266/333/400 memory support, AGP 8X, ATA133, USB 2.0, 6-channel audio, and integrated LAN. There are also overclocking options for FSB, memory ratios, voltage settings for the processor, memory and video card and it even comes with AGP bus locking.

Pero theres the Opteron na that will run on Nforce 3 na hehe...upgrade ulit? think again mga sir..

**newbie13** · July 31st, 2003 12:01 AM

PK:its evil red in color and very much the same color with your video card hehe..

**pajerokid** · July 31st, 2003 01:26 AM

newbie13... uso na nga technicolor na pcb! hehe nung panahon ko puro green lang.

Bad trip! dapat hindi na ako nagtipid sa vidcard! I downloaded 3dMark03 for DX9. ang bagal ng FX ko huhuhu! :D 1308 3Dmarks lang yung score!

Im getting a 10k worth vidcard as soon as i sell my FX5200! Pucha! Saka na yung MOBO, antayin ko na lang ang Opteron! At least yung video card, pwede i-carry over sa new system! Besides, my rusty Athlon can still kick program butt!

**newbie13** · July 31st, 2003 01:42 AM

try not to buy new cards yet. Try to read the reviews, sort the best and buy the preferred ones by pc gurus. by order pa naman ang mga newer vid cards.

**pajerokid** · July 31st, 2003 01:52 AM

The FX5200 is ok for the price. I just realized bakit tinitipid ko sarili ko hehehe :D Indulge!

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