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October 2nd, 2006 10:04 AM #31pauna lang guys, debate is healthy...other than that is not...
keep to ball rolling...Last edited by kimpOy; October 2nd, 2006 at 10:11 AM.
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October 2nd, 2006 10:11 AM #32
Hehehe... that's were you separate the fanboys from racing enthusiasts.
Yup - Team Orders are a given fact in F1. What's funny is how people scream holy hell when their not-so-favorite driver/team pulls this trick... then just clams up when their favorite driver/team pulls out a fast one.
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October 2nd, 2006 11:14 AM #34
"A reporter also asked Schumacher, 37, whether he was bothered about a Renault engineers' radio call - captured live on worldwide television - sarcastically saying 'poor old Michael' when it became clear that the German would not be near pole." . This was during qualifying Saturday afternoon.
Now this one is not going to help Renault's image a bit.....
I am sure that other camp/s are acting this way too...
Tsk... tsk... tsk... - but talk about thinking aloud on worldwide TV! Whew! Priceless!
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October 2nd, 2006 02:22 PM #36
i didn't see the race so i can't comment. but i'm not in favor of 'team orders' regardless of which team does it. but the rules and scoring system of F1 encourages it, so here we are stuck with a lot of BS in almost every season.
F1 has to fix this. maybe they could double the number of teams and limit each team to enter only 1 car and driver (yeah, that's probably a pipe dream :hihihi: )
all the trash talking and arguing about fastest laps and qualifying time means nothing. what counts is Schumacher/Ferrari 1, Renault 2-3.
what was that Renault engineer thinking with his trash talking? i'm sure he didn't mean it to be broadcast to the world, but congrats for giving your arch rival and living legend some extra motivation...
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October 2nd, 2006 02:27 PM #37di na nga pala tie hehehe.Schumi is now leading the driver's championship ahehe
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October 2nd, 2006 03:00 PM #38
That's what Michael practically did to Alonso. That's the trademark b1tchslap from Schumi. hehehe...
Fisi didn't have to push so hard because Jenson was 72secs from his back. There's no point in chasing Alonso as it won't bring him any benefit for his Driver standing.
When Alonso overtook Fisi, i knew, it's a team order. It's too obvious. Even at the podium, seeing Fisi's sad and disappointed face despite winning 3rd.
Obviously, Schumi is really smart, even knowing how his opponents would react (like fisi going wide on turn 1). At the last lap, he was in cruise mode because there's no point in going any faster and riskin a spin because he knows that the tyres aren't that good in wet.
Alonso closed the gap to 3secs when it rained, mainly because Schumi slowed down having calculated he'd win albeit in an inferior package.
At the end of the day, people would remember that on Oct 1, 2006, Michael Schumacher in a Scuderia Ferrari car won in Shanghai disregarding everything else about the GP.
What i like about him is that he has the least of arrogance. Very humble for not crediting himself even for the victory he orchestrated.
This is one of the most exciting race(s) i've seen so far this year.Last edited by Horsepower; October 2nd, 2006 at 03:05 PM.
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October 2nd, 2006 06:12 PM #39
The best way to tell what the Renault (drivers and team) were up to during the Chinese GP is to listen to the unedited pit-to-car radio. I'm sure they have those recorded somewhere. That would be very interesting to listen to.
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October 2nd, 2006 09:33 PM #40
Yes, Alonso deserved to be No.2 for this race, that's why Flavio instructed Fisi to let the Spaniard pass through. Yes, he drove like hell to catch up Schumacher, but please drop the fastest lap times issue that he was faster than Schumi on dry tyres since Schumi was not in a mood for a shootout in the final laps (he recovered his brain to avenge his past Hungarian GP mental block). I don't deny the talent of these drivers, I am just saying that conclusions were made using the wrong incidents. Try to pick situations when these two are neck-to-neck, and not when the other was simply reading a pocketbook all the way to the checkered flag.
By the way, I'm just teasing people here who are allergic to F1 team orders. In fact, when Alonso was catching up on Fisi, I literally shouted at Fisi on the TV set to get out of the way and let him through. That's the game plan. And that's exactly what Fisi did. So there's nothing unusual about it. It's Formula 1 team racing.
In Suzuka and Brazil, I expect Massa and Fisi to do their job and block the others. Sabi nga ni Steve Slater ng Star Sports: It's MANO-Y-MANO!!! It's Alonso versus Schumacher. The rest can join Raikkonen in the DNF pitlane.
p.s. Pansin ko lang, talagang hindi matanggap ng iba dito that BOTH Schumi and Fisichella had switched down their engine RPM in the final laps when the podium order was already determined -- kahit i-post mo pa yung mismong interview nila. They kept insisting Alonso was beating Schumi with fastest lap times while the Ferrari was running on low rpm. That would be an insult to Alonso, if you ask me.
Choice I would have made as well.:nod:
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