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    May balita ba kung may ibang bansa na tumutulong sa military ng Russia? Yung katulad ng pagtulong ng West sa Ukraine.
    Sa pagkakaintindi ko ay "ubos" na ang equipments ng Ukraine at naka-asa na lang sila aid ng West.
    The moment na tumigil sa pagpapadala ang West, wala ng pang-defend ang Ukraine.

    Sana matapos na yung pagpapadala ng West and/or maubos na yung Russia military para matapos na ito.

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    sa nabasa ko Russia is buying drones from Iran

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    Ukraine is totally dependent now on US+NATO support and it's very unlikely the support will end

    there are some voices in the west who don't want continued support to ukraine

    those advocating peace talk (meaning ukraine has to give up some territory)

    but they're outnumbered by those who want russia driven out of ukraine

    so the war won't end anytime soon

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    https://youtu.be/g9gzTGrnPl8

    The Ukrainian Bushmaster armored car is ambushed by Russian troops, the Polish soldier inside is killed

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    2023 na hinde pa matapos ng Russia. Ano ba yan? Overwhelming military power, days lang taon na Ukraine. Eh puro na lang propaganda pinapalabas ng Russia.


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    its the other way around now as far as western propaganda is concerned..ukraine with the help of US+NATO driving the russians out of ukraine

    how long do you think the collective west will remove the russian nuclear umbrella in eastern ukraine annexed by russia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    Billions of aid in military equipment na pinadala sa Ukraine, and magpapadala pa ulit now ng more powerful weapons like the patriot missiles. Ibig sabihin, hindi kinaya nung mga naunang military equipments si Russia. Yet, puro mga vintage weapons pa yata gamit ni Russia.
    Bakit hinde natapos nun start pa lang? Before even all the help rolled in?

    Hinde ko talaga makalimutan sinabi na it will only take days for Russia to invade Ukraine because of there overwhelming military superiority. Kahit dito dami nag sabi eh.




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    Quote Originally Posted by kisshmet View Post
    its the other way around now as far as western propaganda is concerned..ukraine with the help of US+NATO driving the russians out of ukraine

    how long do you think the collective west will remove the russian nuclear umbrella in eastern ukraine annexed by russia?

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    It's not the other way around now.

    From the start both sides have their own propaganda/story. It was never just one side and we all know which side has a more preposterous claim.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    It's not the other way around now.

    From the start both sides have their own propaganda/story. It was never just one side and we all know which side has a more preposterous claim.


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    if you honestly believe that the ukrainian can drive russia out of ukraine then you must be fooling yourself..NATO soldiers and equipments are now fighting in ukraine coz the ukrainians have depleted their weapons already

    there are always 2 sides in a conflict and both have their ways to propagate their stories

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    Quote Originally Posted by kisshmet View Post
    if you honestly believe that the ukrainian can drive russia out of ukraine then you must be fooling yourself..NATO soldiers and equipments are now fighting in ukraine coz the ukrainians have depleted their weapons already

    there are always 2 sides in a conflict and both have their ways to propagate their stories

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    Kindly explain to us the rationale again why Russia is occupying parts of and trying to conquer an independent country?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
    Kindly explain to us the rationale again why Russia is occupying parts of and trying to conquer an independent country?
    It will circle back to America's proxy war.


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    there are 2 main explanations why putin invaded ukraine:


    1) nato expansion (read John Mearsheimer)





    2) putin's imperial ambitions

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    Yatta only respects the opinions of academics

    so....


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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Bakit hinde natapos nun start pa lang? Before even all the help rolled in?

    Hinde ko talaga makalimutan sinabi na it will only take days for Russia to invade Ukraine because of there overwhelming military superiority. Kahit dito dami nag sabi eh.




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    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    Mahirap magpredict ng outcome ng war. Kahit naman si US, ilan years mga war nya in the Middle East and Afghanistan.
    There's a difference between prediction and arrogance. Putin was arrogant enough to think he can blitzkrieg Ukraine.

    Yes there is what we call a fog of war that could surprise even the best planned strategy, but just like Digong saying "6 months" and turning out to be more than 6 years, there's just too much a gap that even his allies are now questioning what happened. hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    There's a difference between prediction and arrogance. Putin was arrogant enough to think he can blitzkrieg Ukraine.

    Yes there is what we call a fog of war that could surprise even the best planned strategy, but just like Digong saying "6 months" and turning out to be more than 6 years, there's just too much a gap that even his allies are now questioning what happened. hehe
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    Social media is awash with claims, repeated on news websites, that Russian President Vladimir Putin surrounded himself with actors for his New Year's address and at previous events. But what's the evidence?
    Ukraine war: What does facial recognition software make of Putin’s backdrop crowd? - BBC News

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    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    Billions of aid in military equipment na pinadala sa Ukraine, and magpapadala pa ulit now ng more powerful weapons like the patriot missiles. Ibig sabihin, hindi kinaya nung mga naunang military equipments si Russia. Yet, puro mga vintage weapons pa yata gamit ni Russia.
    Outside of items like refurbished Soviet-era T-72 tanks, Western leaders have been generally hesitant to send advanced armored vehicles to Ukraine, in part for fear of escalation and the conflict pouring over NATO’s borders.

    But this week has seen a spate of announcements from Washington, Berlin and Paris that will send lethal vehicles to Kyiv, in what may be part of a Western strategy to slowly but surely ratchet up the tension on Moscow and could presage mobile armor transfers to come.

    The transfer of a German Marder infantry fighting vehicle (IFV) package, of around 40 vehicles, along with a Patriot air defense system was signed off by Chancellor Olaf Schultz after a Jan 5. phone call with US President Joe Biden. The same day, Washington agreed for the first time to send 50 M2A2 Bradley infantry fighting vehicles. Those equipment pledges come on the heels of France agreeing to supply Ukraine with the nimble AMX-10RC armored reconnaissance vehicles.
    From Washington, Berlin and Paris, a sudden influx of armor bound for Ukraine - Breaking Defense

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    Another country with a bad experience with Russia.


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    ^^^

    mas bad pa experience nila sa germany

    poland is demanding reparations from germany

    Poland pressures Germany on war reparations – DW – 1/7/223




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    it's funny that after russia invaded ukraine, people totally forgot that russia fought against germany in ww2

    they had the most number of casualities



    this little bit of historical fact can make people to view russia favorably and that cannot be

    coz after russia invaded ukraine, the western establishment wants the world to view russia as the most evil country on earth

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    any russia-positive history shouldn't be mentioned

    erased if possible
    Last edited by uls; January 8th, 2023 at 07:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    ^^^

    mas bad pa experience nila sa germany

    poland is demanding reparations from germany

    Poland pressures Germany on war reparations – DW – 1/7/223




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    it's funny that after russia invaded ukraine, people totally forgot that russia fought against germany in ww2

    they had the most number of casualities



    this little bit of historical fact can cause people to view russia favorably and that cannot be

    coz after the Feb 2022 invasion, the western establishment wants the world to view russia as the most evil country on earth

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    any russia-positive history shouldn't be mentioned

    erased if possible
    Poland had bad experiences with Germany, Austria/Hungary and Russia during the many Partitions. In early WW2 Russia and Germany even gang-banged Poland (remember Katyn Massacre). One can say they are the Israel of Europe.

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