Is WWIII inevitable?

[Ry_Tower]

Dapat lang matanggal si Putin if I were a Russian. Sobrang bano ginawa niya.

so in a scenario where russia is weakened, more powerful countries would want russia's resources

is a scenario like that implausible?

Would russians allow that?

Yung iniisip lang ng west iniisip mo. How about the proud russians and their pampered elites and educated middle class?

They may lose the war, but they ain't conquerable.

Point mo ba conquerable sila ng west? Palitan si Putin yes, pero a counquered country? Wow ha.

[uls]

Anong title na nga ng thread na ito?

this war won't become a world war hangga't walang ibang bansa sumali on russia's side (like China, Iran, NK)

sa ngayon it's Russia vs Ukraine armed by the US, UK, EU, etc

Would russian allow that?

Yung iniisip lang ng west ata iniisip mo. How about the proud russians?

They may lose the war, but they ain't conquerable.

Point mo ba conquerable sila ng west? Palitan si Putin yes, pero a counquered country?

russia is up against the richest countries in the world

naka sanction pa ang russia

the goal of US&allies is to wear down russia

after russia is driven out of ukraine, an angry and emboldened ukraine may not stop there

they may want to bring the war to moscow (bilang ganti) and the US would be more than willing to help (Ukraine annexes western russia)

seeing a weakened russia, China may become interested in eastern russia (asian russia)

With Moscow Distracted, Xi Jinping Could Turn China’s Gaze To Russia

it's not a question if russians will allow it

if they're weakened to the point they can't even protect their own borders

what are they gonna do about it?

[tsupermario]

conquer russia?

[uls]

hindi ba you pro-west guys keep saying russia is weak, russia is incompetent, putin is bluffing...

now a scenario is presented where this war weakens russia so badly that their central gov't collapses and russia breaks apart

all of a sudden "russia isn't that weak they have nukes"

i thought putin is bluffing

he'll never use nukes

russia's nukes are probably so rusted they can't be used

US/NATO don't seem to be afraid of russia's nukes

walang tigil ang escalation

any westerner advocating negotiation para di umabot sa nuclear war is called pro-putin

[kisshmet]

^thats the biggest problem of the collective west, hubris

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[kisshmet]

https://youtu.be/4WvE-Ef-1FQ

british are the culprit

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[Ry_Tower]

this war won't become a world war hangga't walang ibang bansa sumali on russia's side (like China, Iran, NK)

sa ngayon it's Russia vs Ukraine armed by the US, UK, EU, etc



russia is up against the richest countries in the world

naka sanction pa ang russia

the goal of US&allies is to wear down russia

after russia is driven out of ukraine, an angry and emboldened ukraine may not stop there

they may want to bring the war to moscow (bilang ganti) and the US would be more than willing to help (Ukraine annexes western russia)

seeing a weakened russia, China may become interested in eastern russia (asian russia)

With Moscow Distracted, Xi Jinping Could Turn China’s Gaze To Russia

it's not a question if russians will allow it

if they're weakened to the point they can't even protect their own borders

what are they gonna do about it?

MAD, it's Russia's assurance that whomever ascends to the throne, he has the means to still deter attack on Russia itself.

Again puro conspiracy theory. Russia even in a weakened position (which I don't think the leadership would allow to deteriorate to a state that you - respectfully but adamantly - envisioned) is not a prey even with all their natural resources. Again, the russians will have something to say about that even with your China and Ukraine invasion theory.

You should really write a book. Win win sa iyo yan. If I am wrong, lakas ng kita ng book mo. If you are right, bragging rights sky high.

[Athrunzala]

https://youtu.be/4WvE-Ef-1FQ

british are the culprit

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Oo, "Anglo-Saxons blew up the Nord Stream", in a previous Putin speech...

[Athrunzala]

US Has No Plans To Withdraw From Syria Or End Sanctions: White House

US Has No Plans To Withdraw From Syria Or End Sanctions: White House


"Instead, US troops in Syria are preoccupied with their persistent and illegal oil-looting operations, the latest of which took place on 26 October. Lately, Washington has even stepped up its looting of Syrian oil in order to alleviate the man-made energy crisis it faces, as well as to ease the effect of the latest decision by OPEC+ to cut output production levels. According to the Syrian Oil Ministry, US forces have stolen more than 80 percent of the country’s daily oil output. "


Ang sarap ng free oil noh?

[kisshmet]

^US soldiers escorts the trucks that siphon oil out of syria

free oil to be resold for profit

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[tsupermario]

[tsupermario]

^thats the biggest problem of the collective west, hubris

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President Putin's "special operation" has not gone according to plan. What was supposed to have taken days - maximum weeks - has dragged on for months. The Kremlin appears to have completely underestimated the scale of Ukrainian resistance, as well as misjudging Western support for Kyiv and the tsunami of international sanctions Russia would face.

And, despite pledging early on that only "professional soldiers" would do the fighting, President Putin eventually had to declare "partial mobilisation". What's more, in recent weeks as a result of a Ukrainian counter-offensive, Russian troops have been losing some of the territory they had occupied.

But one thing Vladimir Putin rarely admits to is making mistakes. For now, he seems determined to pursue this war and emerge with something he can call a victory.

Putin pins Ukraine hopes on winter and divisive US politics

Putin pins Ukraine hopes on winter and divisive US politics - BBC News

[uls]

i don't think much will change kahit manalo mga republicans sa midterms

as i said before defeating russia is important

driving russia out of ukraine (including crimea) is important to the US

it sends a message to the world "WE ARE SUPERIOR DON'T MESS WITH US"

it won't matter which political party has the majority in the US legislative branch

both parties still agree the US should maintain its #1 status in the world

[kisshmet]

Putin pins Ukraine hopes on winter and divisive US politics

Putin pins Ukraine hopes on winter and divisive US politics - BBC News

politics of exigency will be where the republicans will pin their hope in winning the mid-term elections of 2022

the republican rhetoric will be based on what the electorate want to hear

after winning the 2022 elections the republicans will continue what the democrats have advocated in the ukraine vs russia conflict which is to generate demand for US manufactured weapons in order to generate jobs for americans whose hands will assemble those weapons

also to generate demand for US natural gas

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[kisshmet]

https://youtu.be/jGeaEWIVaEM

very inaccurate artillery fire

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[Athrunzala]

Russia To Present 'Evidence' UK Special Forces Behind Crimea Attacks

Russia To Present ''Evidence'' UK Special Forces Behind Crimea Attacks

[Flipo]

Amir Tsarfati
The South Korean military reported that flights of approximately 180 North Korean military aircraft were detected over various areas of the country for four hours, and in response all the advanced aircraft of the South's air force, including 80 stealth fighter jets scrambled, while the air exercise The joint with the US continued as planned.

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[shadow]

Russia orders retreat from Ukrainian city of Kherson in major setback for Moscow | Inquirer News

Russia orders retreat from Ukrainian city of Kherson in major setback for Moscow

ano nangyari?


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[uls]

this war is US/NATO vs russia

not ukraine vs russia

ukraine is only the battlefield

the goal is to defeat russia and drive putin out of power

then war with china

to preserve the western world order

[baludoy]

Russia orders retreat from Ukrainian city of Kherson in major setback for Moscow | Inquirer News



ano nangyari?


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logistics ang one of the main problems... siguro iyon nga ang main problem. nang na na-heavily damage at na partially disable na ng ukrainians ang antonovskiy bridge at ang pride and joy ni putin, the all-important crimean bridge, wala ng direct link from the russian mainland na kaya mag supply sa troops nila en masse.

even state propagandists have conceded their loss of the 8 year war's crown jewel. that kind of broadcasting doesn't happen everyday.

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/st...SX_-b8DF7Bmnig

pero sabi ng iba trap siya para maka-regroup ang russia especially na parating na ang winter. pagdating daw kasi ng tag-lamig, siguradong stale mate for the mean time ang kalalabasan.

pero it's probably also a "good time" time for putin to fire a low grade nuclear weapon at kherson wala na or at a minimum na mga tauhan niya doon eh.