Philippine Economy Talk

[dr. d]

oo meron kuntador pero nasa poste na siya protected by high voltage wire bago pumasok ng step down transformer... kapag ganyan orange wire na eh kanya kanya na kayo nakawan ng kuryente kung talaga wala hiya ang lugar nyo... di tulad dati na yung kuntador nasa bahay at duon ninanakaw ang kuryente bago pumasok sa kuntador na nakaka kabit sa bahay...

the kuntador by the bahay can be jumped easily, at one's leisure, and in relative secrecy.
the kuntador at the poste can't be that easily jumped, because one would have to climb the poste to do it. i imagine, such action will get significant negative feedback from neighbors who wish to stay within the right side of the law.
if electricity theft will affect the individual costumer, the latter will surely assiduously guard his end of the wire. if the kuntador were there by his house, electricity theft won't affect him and he'll probably laissez faire it.

also, grouped kuntadors can be more easily read, than if they were distributed to each and every costumer's house.

yes, the clustered kuntadors can be interpreted as "meralco don't trust you"
but it can also be a win-win for both sides.
it's up to the observer to decide which one he's gonna side with.

the high voltage isn't there to protect anything.
it's there because that's where the step-down transformer, is.

my thoughts.

[_Qwerty_]

may lifter sila para mabasa yan.. dinosaur ang tawag nila.. nandyan na yung dinosaur!

[yapoy86]

dapat lang ma bawasan nakawan ng kuryente.. kasi tayo mga maayos na nag babayad ang talo dyan.. kasi sa atin din sisingilin yan ng meralco

[viper888]

may lifter sila para mabasa yan.. dinosaur ang tawag nila.. nandyan na yung dinosaur!

When you see these clustered meters that are 3-4 storeys up, It means you're in a bad neighborhood

I believe its to prevent theft of the meter itself

[boybi]

I wonder....

Whenever I apply for an electric meter, I am requested to provide so much documents, like land titles, business docs, etc.

And usually, subscribers that are hooked to these clustered meters are squatters.

So what documents do they provide for them to apply for such meters?

[Stigg ma]

dapat lang ma bawasan nakawan ng kuryente.. kasi tayo mga maayos na nag babayad ang talo dyan.. kasi sa atin din sisingilin yan ng meralco

baliktad kase sa pinas, kung sino yung masama tao/magnanakaw/illegal eh siya ang kinatatakutan. kase malay mo pulis pala siya o may kapit sa pulis o sa gobyerno.

hindi pa uunlad ang pinas kase innaapi pa din tayo ng gobyerno tulad nung panahon ng kastila, ngayon nga kahit wala na ang mga kastila ay nahawa na din ang pinoy sa pang aapi ng kapwa, sabi nga mas nakakahawa ang MALI kaysa sa tama...

[Stigg ma]

I wonder....

Whenever I apply for an electric meter, I am requested to provide so much documents, like land titles, business docs, etc.

And usually, subscribers that are hooked to these clustered meters are squatters.

So what documents do they provide for them to apply for such meters?

no docs needed as in wala kase ano naman mapapasa nila, wala naman land title, wala din electrical distribution design na may piram ng licensed electrician, wala AS-Built design... as in WALA, kase mas ma buti pa bigyan sila ng kuntador ng kuryente kaysa mag nakaw ng kuryente o gumamit ng kandila... pero may masusunugan pa din dyan kase di makaka bayad ng kuryente at mapuputulan at gagamit pa din ng kandila o makiki kabit muna dun sa kabila gamit ang maliit na extension wire...

so this is a reminder that the WORLD will ALWAYS be UNFAIR!

[dr. d]

I wonder....

Whenever I apply for an electric meter, I am requested to provide so much documents, like land titles, business docs, etc.

And usually, subscribers that are hooked to these clustered meters are squatters.

So what documents do they provide for them to apply for such meters?

this is how i see it.

"us-the-good-costumers", we have our kuntador by our houses.
we are warranted to guard against electricity theft.
should the latter occur, it can be assumed that "we allowed it".
they probably want proof that we are who we purport to be, in case of lawsuit.

the informal settlers naman,
they have no such documents.
but they really don't need it, because from the set-up of clustered kuntadors, it is difficult for them to steal electricity. and even if someone manages to do so, it is difficult to determine the guilty party. from what i understand, all they have to present on a regular basis, are escodas, ninoys, and roxases. should they fail to do so, putol!

[Stigg ma]

the kuntador by the bahay can be jumped easily, at one's leisure, and in relative secrecy.
the kuntador at the poste can't be that easily jumped, because one would have to climb the poste to do it. i imagine, such action will get significant negative feedback from neighbors who wish to stay within the right side of the law.
if electricity theft will affect the individual costumer, the latter will surely assiduously guard his end of the wire. if the kuntador were there by his house, electricity theft won't affect him and he'll probably laissez faire it.

also, grouped kuntadors can be more easily read, than if they were distributed to each and every costumer's house.

yes, the clustered kuntadors can be interpreted as "meralco don't trust you"
but it can also be a win-win for both sides.
it's up to the observer to decide which one he's gonna side with.

the high voltage isn't there to protect anything.
it's there because that's where the step-down transformer, is.

my thoughts.

meron naka palibot na high voltage wire na wala insulation sa poste (ito ay yung galing sa high tension wire (primary) bago pumasok ng step down transformer) para hindi magalaw ang mga metro ng kahit na ba kaya mo akyatin ang poste, dinasour (man lift truck) lang ang makaka bypass nung force field. at alam nyo na pag nandyan ang dinasour plus squatters area na maliit ang kalsada equals siksikan

pag may dinasour eh may escort pa yan pulis na may mahahaba baril

[dr. d]

meron naka palibot na high voltage wire na wala insulation sa poste (ito ay yung galing sa high tension wire (primary) bago pumasok ng step down transformer) para hindi magalaw ang mga metro ng kahit na ba kaya mo akyatin ang poste, dinasour (man lift truck) lang ang makaka bypass nung force field. at alam nyo na pag nandyan ang dinasour plus squatters area na maliit ang kalsada equals siksikan

pag may dinasour eh may escort pa yan pulis na may mahahaba baril

that's dangerous!

totoong live wire ba?
baka naman, peke. for effect lang.

dun sa picture ni qwerty, parang wala naman.

[_Cathy_]

may lifter sila para mabasa yan.. dinosaur ang tawag nila.. nandyan na yung dinosaur!

sa nueve de pebrero sa Mandaluyong lang ako nakakita nyan. I always wondered how Meralco checks the meters. I used to take nueve de pebrero as a shortcut going home when I was working in Ortigas pero my friends said since babae pa ako, to take EDSA na lang kahit mas traffic kasi delikado yung area

I wonder....

Whenever I apply for an electric meter, I am requested to provide so much documents, like land titles, business docs, etc.

And usually, subscribers that are hooked to these clustered meters are squatters.

So what documents do they provide for them to apply for such meters?

same. I thought sa squatters lang yung ganyan. pero why do then even give electricity to these squatters, then they are legitimizing their squatting?

[uls]

ok thought experiment tayo

kunwari overnight nawala lahat ng squatter

next morning Mister Ma leaves his mini mansion in an executive village going to work

napansin niya walang gwardiya ang entrance/exit ng village niya

tapos nag drive thru siya sa mcdo bili sana breakfast kaya lang sarado dahil walang crew

he arrives at the office building wala gwardiya, at madumi ang floor kasi walang janitor

pasok siya CR madumi kasi wala naglinis

kapansin pansin din wala masyado nag momotor

wala mga motorcycle messenger ng grab/lalamove

ano kaya nangyari

[Walter]

Robots ...
Guards = security camera and laser sensors ...
Gate = automatic barrier system ...
McDo = burger / pancake / etc vending machine ... besides a millionaire will have a chef prepare breakfast ...
Janitor = robot mop and vacuum ... commercial model ...

[uls]

tapos ang dami order sa shopee di dumadating kasi walang rider

walang kahera at bagger mga supermarket

walang gasoline station attendants

pero walang squatter

sarap

[Stigg ma]

ok thought experiment tayo

kunwari overnight nawala lahat ng squatter

next morning Mister Ma leaves his mini mansion in an executive village going to work

napansin niya walang gwardiya ang entrance/exit ng village niya

tapos nag drive thru siya sa mcdo bili sana breakfast kaya lang sarado dahil walang crew

he arrives at the office building wala gwardiya, at madumi ang floor kasi walang janitor

pasok siya CR madumi kasi wala naglinis

kapansin pansin din wala masyado nag momotor

wala mga motorcycle messenger ng grab/lalamove

ano kaya nangyari

everybody wants cheap labor to the point na hindi na maka tao, its almost 2023 na, automation na dapat...

[dr. d]

ok thought experiment tayo

kunwari overnight nawala lahat ng squatter

next morning Mister Ma leaves his mini mansion in an executive village going to work

napansin niya walang gwardiya ang entrance/exit ng village niya

tapos nag drive thru siya sa mcdo bili sana breakfast kaya lang sarado dahil walang crew

he arrives at the office building wala gwardiya, at madumi ang floor kasi walang janitor

pasok siya CR madumi kasi wala naglinis

kapansin pansin din wala masyado nag momotor

wala mga motorcycle messenger ng grab/lalamove

ano kaya nangyari

when my plumbing wouldn't plumb, back in the tate,
the service man that came, was a handsome, well-built caucasian.

[uls]

Robots ...
Guards = security camera and laser sensors ...
Gate = automatic barrier system ...
McDo = burger / pancake / etc vending machine ... besides a millionaire will have a chef prepare breakfast ...
Janitor = robot mop and vacuum ... commercial model ...

naisip ko naman kumain na si Mister Ma sa bahay

pero i was illustrating something so sinama ko ung drive thru mcdo

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may driver pala si Mister Ma pero hindi stay in

but the driver didn't show up

kasi nag vanish lahat ng squatter

pero hindi nag vanish mga maid kasi nakatira sa amo

haha

[uls]

when my plumbing wouldn't plumb, back in the tate,
the service man that came, was a handsome, well-built caucasian.

plumbers, electricians in the US make as much money or even more money than office workers

[uls]

everybody wants cheap labor to the point na hindi na maka tao, its almost 2023 na, automation na dapat...

yes

why don't you initiate?

you're probably an executive

maybe you own a business

why don't you invest in automation / AI and get rid of your workers

[dr. d]

plumbers, electricians in the US make as much money or even more money than office workers

well,
if we prized them and paid them accordingly,
we probably wouldn't have to worry about them shortages of labor.