Paris Terror Attack : 35 dead, 100 held hostage

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deja vu

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The main purpose of Saddam and his government was to check Iran. Yes IS is a scary outcome, but there's nothing more scarier than a nuclear nation willing to use it.

The American occupying force granted America another US base in Mid East. This with the base in Turkey and Saudi Arabia. and napaligiran na Iran.

So there's no sense blaming the past US admins.

Iran and the Bomb - YouTube

incidentally, IS is also against Iran. So is this a good thing or bad thing? Intay na lang tayo

[badkuk]

Alleged mastermind of Paris attacks believed to be cornered in an apartment, operations still ongoing.

[Juan Martinez]

why did isis attack paris?

a paper written by will mccants, a princeton grad, and scholar of militant Islamism. He is a fellow at the Center for Middle East Policy and director of the Project on U.S. Relations with the Islamic World at the Brookings Institution.

Why Did ISIS Attack Paris? - The Atlantic

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BREAKING NEWS:

One jihadi is shot dead and a woman suicide bomber blows herself up in dramatic gunfight at Paris apartment where mastermind of terror attacks is surrounded by 100 officers

French police and special forces launch operation to storm Saint-Denis flat containing up to six Paris terrorists

Mastermind behind Friday's massacres, Abdelhamid Abaaoud, 27, believed to be inside the Paris apartment

Female suicide bomber detonated explosive vest after firing on police while one suspect killed by rooftop sniper

At least five police have been injured in the ferocious gunfight and the terrorists also shot and killed a police dog

Wanted man Salah Abdeslam, 26, who had been stopped by police on Belgian border, may also be inside rented flat

Three people have been taken alive from flat and arrested as well as two others 'nearby' but stand-off is ongoing

Witnesses told MailOnline there have been periods of intense machine gun fire and at least seven large explosions

Man who rented flat to 'two Belgians' is arrested and claims: 'I didn't know they were terrorists. It was a favour'

Read more: Paris attacks? Saint Denis raid sees police kill woman in a suicide belt | Daily Mail Online
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BREAKING NEWS:

One jihadi is shot dead and a woman suicide bomber blows herself up in dramatic gunfight at Paris apartment where mastermind of terror attacks is surrounded by 100 officers

French police and special forces launch operation to storm Saint-Denis flat containing up to six Paris terrorists

Mastermind behind Friday's massacres, Abdelhamid Abaaoud, 27, believed to be inside the Paris apartment

Female suicide bomber detonated explosive vest after firing on police while one suspect killed by rooftop sniper

At least five police have been injured in the ferocious gunfight and the terrorists also shot and killed a police dog

Wanted man Salah Abdeslam, 26, who had been stopped by police on Belgian border, may also be inside rented flat

Three people have been taken alive from flat and arrested as well as two others 'nearby' but stand-off is ongoing

Witnesses told MailOnline there have been periods of intense machine gun fire and at least seven large explosions

Man who rented flat to 'two Belgians' is arrested and claims: 'I didn't know they were terrorists. It was a favour'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3323196/Shooting-breaks-Paris-suburb-anti-terrorist-operation.html#ixzz3rpkoSRPw
Follow us: *MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

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PS4 game consoles ginamit na communication ng mga ISIS? Parang ung mga tauhan ni osama bin laden dati ginamit sa pyesa ng bomba ung parts at microchips ng PS2 dati.

Nagiging tony stark na mga terorista.. Kakatakot.

[badkuk]

watching on CNN now, riot police planning to enter a church, trying to pry open the doors. Media circus ensuing, cameras just inches away from the police. Why does the Quirino grandstand coming to mind right now?

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Putin on terrorism: 'To forgive them is up to God, but to send them to him is up to me'
PUBLISHED25 MIN AGO
Lee Min Kok

Known for his hardline stance and strong public remarks, Russian President Vladimir Putin's latest quotable quote has been making the rounds on social media.

A tweet by Ms Remi Maalouf, a news anchor with television channel Russia Today, highlights Mr Putin's colourful take on terrorism: "To forgive them is up to God, but to send them to him is up to me."


In the wake of the Paris terrorist attacks on Nov 13 which killed at least 129 people, Russia and France agreed to coordinate their military and security services against Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) militants in Syria.

Mr Putin, speaking to his top military officials, had vowed merciless retaliation for the attacks, as warplanes from both countries unleashed bombs on the ISIS stronghold of Raqa earlier this week.

"It's necessary to establish direct contact with the French and work with them as allies," he said.

The urgency of the unusual alliance was also due to Tuesday's revelation that ISIS was responsible for planting a homemade bomb that ripped apart a Russian passenger jet over Egypt on Oct 31.

That incident claimed the lives of all 224 passengers on board, most of whom were Russians returning home from a vacation.

Mr Putin responded by saying it was one of the bloodiest acts in modern Russian history, vowing that the effort to bring ISIS to justice would be relentless.

"We will search for them everywhere wherever they are hiding. We will find them anywhere on the planet and punish them," he added.

Putin on terrorism: 'To forgive them is up to God, but to send them to him is up to me', Europe News & Top Stories - The Straits Times

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Putin on terrorism: 'To forgive them is up to God, but to send them to him is up to me'
PUBLISHED25 MIN AGO
Lee Min Kok

Known for his hardline stance and strong public remarks, Russian President Vladimir Putin's latest quotable quote has been making the rounds on social media.

A tweet by Ms Remi Maalouf, a news anchor with television channel Russia Today, highlights Mr Putin's colourful take on terrorism: "To forgive them is up to God, but to send them to him is up to me."


In the wake of the Paris terrorist attacks on Nov 13 which killed at least 129 people, Russia and France agreed to coordinate their military and security services against Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) militants in Syria.

Mr Putin, speaking to his top military officials, had vowed merciless retaliation for the attacks, as warplanes from both countries unleashed bombs on the ISIS stronghold of Raqa earlier this week.

"It's necessary to establish direct contact with the French and work with them as allies," he said.

The urgency of the unusual alliance was also due to Tuesday's revelation that ISIS was responsible for planting a homemade bomb that ripped apart a Russian passenger jet over Egypt on Oct 31.

That incident claimed the lives of all 224 passengers on board, most of whom were Russians returning home from a vacation.

Mr Putin responded by saying it was one of the bloodiest acts in modern Russian history, vowing that the effort to bring ISIS to justice would be relentless.

"We will search for them everywhere wherever they are hiding. We will find them anywhere on the planet and punish them," he added.

http://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/putin-on-terrorism-to-forgive-them-is-up-to-god-but-to-send-them-to-him-is-up-to-me#xtor=CS1-10

[niky]

PS4 game consoles ginamit na communication ng mga ISIS? Parang ung mga tauhan ni osama bin laden dati ginamit sa pyesa ng bomba ung parts at microchips ng PS2 dati.

Nagiging tony stark na mga terorista.. Kakatakot.

Actually, PSN is an excellent way to communicate anonymously. Log into a game session and the text and voice chats are typically not recorded.

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Even better, others were suggesting you could spell out messages in bullets. Bullet holes are not recorded by the server, at all.

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It would take a huge amount of storage space to record all the game chats that happen on PSN.

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Putin on terrorism: 'To forgive them is up to God, but to send them to him is up to me', Europe News & Top Stories - The Straits Times

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Putin on terrorism: 'To forgive them is up to God, but to send them to him is up to me', Europe News & Top Stories - The Straits Times

All brave talk but they only fly and bomb. Why dont they do something on the ground like What America has always been doing. They put soldiers on the ground!

America has laways been risking eveything from WW2, to North Korea, to Vietnam, to Iraq Kuwait, to Afghanistan.

If indeed the Russian President is bent on annihilating this threat, then put that 150,000 contingent stong Russian army that they have been promising,

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in world war 2, roosevelt asked stalin if they could commit Russian soldiers in the American war vs, Japan. The russians did't help and instead cordoned off all of eastern Europe as prize for them winning against Germany.

The Americans were left alone in the Pacific theater, losing a 100,000 men per Japanese island conquered. main reason why the Atomic bomb was decided to level off 2 Japanese cities, kasi nauubos na ang mga Amerikano coz of the Kamikaze attiude of the Japanese,

Now, they are facing the same type of enemy; kamikaze type. Pero still nobody in the coalition has the guts to put their soldiers on the ground
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The russian president did mention using his tactical low-yield nukes. I wonder how the other middle esst countries will react if say the fall out of those nukes affect their environment or water supply..

[badkuk]

Benn holding off posting as this is a developing story...apparently the police uncovered a plot from confiscated phones/devices from earlier raids, and managed to stop a second wave of attacks "in the nick of time". This seems plausible since a female terror suspect blew herself up when they conducted the raid. 2 or 3 suspects dead, 7 held in custody.

[badkuk]

CNN profiling Abdelhamid Abaaoud, the suspected mastermind of the Paris attacks:

- Belgian citizen living in Brussels, of Morrocan ancestry
- upper to middle class family; it was mentioned that he used to have vacations in Morroco with jetskis and dirtbikes
- not religious
- involved in petty crimes, gangs

This is in stark contrast to how some people have described ISIS followers, or how ISIS would like to present itself as. He seems more like a psychopathic mercenary to me.

[Juan Martinez]

in world war 2, roosevelt asked stalin if they could commit Russian soldiers in the American war vs, Japan. The russians did't help and instead cordoned off all of eastern Europe as prize for them winning against Germany.

The Americans were left alone in the Pacific theater, losing a 100,000 men per Japanese island conquered. main reason why the Atomic bomb was decided to level off 2 Japanese cities, kasi nauubos na ang mga Amerikano coz of the Kamikaze attiude of the Japanese,

before posting anything, check your facts, especially if you're talking about history.
please do not change or embellish history.

FDR died on April 12, 1945. His VP, Harry S. Truman, succeeded him. On August 6 and 9, the US dropped bombs at the cities of Hiroshima and nagasaki. It was Truman who approved the
use of atomic bomb against Japan. below are excerpts of papers and diary of president truman regarding his succession to the presidency up to the time he decided to drop the atomic bomb against Japan:

[4/12/45: President Franklin Roosevelt dies. Vice-President Harry Truman becomes President.]
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6/17/45 Diary Entry:
"I have to decide Japanese strategy - shall we invade Japan proper or shall we bomb and blockade? That is my hardest decision to date. But I'll make it when I have all the facts."
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7/17/45 Diary Entry:
"I told Stalin that I am no diplomat but usually said yes & no to questions after hearing all the argument. It pleased him. I asked him if he had the agenda for the meeting. He said he had and that he had some more questions to present. I told him to fire away. He did and it is dynamite - but I have some dynamite too which I'm not exploding now."
"He'll [Stalin and Russia] be in the Jap War on August 15th. Fini Japs when that comes about."
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7/18/45 Diary Entry:
"P.M. [Prime Minister Winston Churchill] & I ate alone. Discussed Manhattan [atomic bomb] (it is a success). Decided to tell Stalin about it. Stalin had told P.M. of telegram from Jap Emperor asking for peace. Stalin also read his answer to me. It was satisfactory. Believe Japs will fold up before Russia comes in. I am sure they will when Manhattan appears over their homeland. I shall inform Stalin about it at an opportune time."
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[The following diary entry is not found in "Off the Record". It appears to refer to the meeting between Truman and Stalin on 7/17/45 at the Potsdam Conference. It may have been written by Truman in the Fall of 1951 for his aide Eben Ayers (Gar Alperovitz, "The Decision to Use the Atomic Bomb", pg. 558-559).]
7/19/45 Diary Entry:
"Stalin was a day late in arriving. It was reported that he was not feeling up to par. He called on me as soon as he arrived. It was about 11 A.M. He, Molotov, Vishinski and Pavlov stayed for lunch. We had a most pleasant conference and Stalin assured me that Russia intended to carry out the Yalta agreements and to enter the war against Japan in August." (William Hillman, "Harry S. Truman: In His Own Words", pg. 123).

7/20/45 Letter to Bess Truman:
"I have to make it perfectly plain to them [Russia and Great Britain] at least once a day that so far as this President is concerned Santa Claus is dead and that my first interest is U.S.A., then I want the Jap war won and I want 'em both in it. Then I want peace - world peace and will do what can be done by us to get it.
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7/22/45 Letter to Bess Truman:
"He [Stalin] talked to me confidentially at the dinner [on 7/21/45] and I believe things will be all right in most instances. Some things we won't and can't agree on - but I have already what I came for [see the 7/18/45 letter to Bess Truman]. Hope I can break it off in a few days." [i.e., leave the Potsdam Conference].
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7/25/45 Diary Entry:
"We met at 11 A.M. today. That is Stalin, Churchill and the U.S. President. But I had a most important session with Lord Mountbattan & General Marshall before than. We have discovered the most terrible bomb in the history of the world. It may be the fire destruction prophesied in the Euphrates Valley Era, after Noah and his fabulous Ark.
"Anyway we 'think' we have found the way to cause a disintegration of the atom. An experiment in the New Mexican desert was startling - to put it mildly. Thirteen pounds of the explosive caused the complete disintegration of a steel tower 60 feet high, created a crater 6 feet deep and 1,200 feet in diameter, knocked over a steel tower 1/2 mile away and knocked men down 10,000 yards away. The explosion was visible for more than 200 miles and audible for 40 miles and more.
"The weapon is to be used against Japan between now and August 10th. I have told the Sec. of War, Mr. Stimson, to use it so that military objectives and soldiers and sailors are the target and not women and children. Even if the Japs are savages, ruthless, merciless and fanatic, we as the leader of the world for the common welfare cannot drop this terrible bomb on the old capital or the new [Kyoto]

[7/26/45: The U.S., Great Britain, and China issued the Potsdam Proclamation, which called for Japan's "unconditional surrender". It made no reference to the future status of the Emperor, Russia's secret agreement to declare war on Japan, or the atomic bomb. It was rejected by Japan's Prime Minister.

[8/6/45: An atomic bomb was dropped on the people of Hiroshima.]

Hiroshima: The Harry Truman Diary and Papers

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This is just a theory: maybe ISIS isn't the radical apocalyptic group they're trying to present themselves as. What if they're just a bunch of thugs perverting religion, radical as it may be, as a shield?

Think about it: if you're a mercenary group, nobody would have any qualms about bombing the sh_t out of you; throw in religion, and people have to tiptoe across political/religious landmines just to accuse you of being terrorrists. Heck, if some warhawks suddenly decide to declare war on Islam, then they can use all Muslims as shields, since they're all Muslims.

All this could be moot and academic though: i think they crossed a line last Friday.

[Juan Martinez]

^you have a theory. that's good.everyone does. free trade of ideas. i agree with holmes: the ultimate good desired is better reached by free trade of ideas, that the best test of the truth is the power of the thought to get itself accepted in the competition of the marketplace...

[kisshmet]

All brave talk but they only fly and bomb

never underestimate the russian resolve. the last time someone had been crazy enough to mess with the russians, they sacrificed more than 20 million citizens and destroyed one of the mightiest army ever assembled

[ClaNker]

This is just a theory: maybe ISIS isn't the radical apocalyptic group they're trying to present themselves as. What if they're just a bunch of thugs perverting religion, radical as it may be, as a shield?

Think about it: if you're a mercenary group, nobody would have any qualms about bombing the sh_t out of you; throw in religion, and people have to tiptoe across political/religious landmines just to accuse you of being terrorrists. Heck, if some warhawks suddenly decide to declare war on Islam, then they can use all Muslims as shields, since they're all Muslims.

All this could be moot and academic though: i think they crossed a line last Friday.

JV team according to Obama, that makes you and him deadly wrong. Warhawks war on Islam? Radical Islam is the correct term, nobody is waging war against Islam.

Crossed the line last Friday? Do you have any idea on the number of Christian the caliphate beheaded, raped, sold to slavery wayyy before last Friday?

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JV team according to Obama, that makes you and him deadly wrong. Warhawks war on Islam? Radical Islam is the correct term, nobody is waging war against Islam.

sorry, what's JV?

What i meant was if people are not careful, what a war against terrorists could become a religious war; you can't imagine the kind of garbage some people are spewing on social media (e.g. Islam is a plague, etc).

Crossed the line last Friday? Do you have any idea on the number of Christian the caliphate beheaded, raped, sold to slavery wayyy before last Friday?

Sir i am well aware that atrocities have been committed upon Christians and Muslims alike, since ancient times. Things like that i find very hard to explain as a Christian, and make me keep questioning my faith.

What i mean by crossing the line is that there seems to be a general consensus between countries to finally deal with ISIS. i'm not implying that French lives are worth more than , say Libyan, Lebanese, lives etc....but the fact of the matter is, you now have lone wolf bad boy Putin talking about cooperating with France.

[ClaNker]

sorry, what's JV?

What i meant was if people are not careful, what a war against terrorists could become a religious war; you can't imagine the kind of garbage some people are spewing on social media (e.g. Islam is a plague, etc).


Sir i am well aware that atrocities have been committed upon Christians and Muslims alike, since ancient times.

What i mean by crossing the line is that there seems to be a general consensus between countries to finally deal with ISIS. i'm not implying that French lives are worth more than , say Libyan, Lebanese, elive etc....but the fact of the matter is, you now have lone wolf bad boy Putin talking about cooperating with France.

JV = junior varsity. Well look at them now, they have their own country, control a big swath of land, and sell oil in the black market to a tune of $2M/Day.

Nonono... Don't go back to the ancient times. We are talking about ISIS/Caliphate atrocities before Paris massacre. Putin will pound ISIS even if Paris did not happen to preserve Asad.

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JV = junior varsity. Well look at them now, they have their own country, control a big swath of land, and sell oil in the black market to a tune of $2M/Day.

Hmm, if you mean to say i consider ISIS as amateurs, no po, in fact i find them very resourcefule, ruthless, hardened. What i meant was that they're pretending to be radical Islam when they're really not.


i suppose my use of the word "thugs" could have given you that impression. Pardon my poor choice of words.

Nonono... Don't go back to the ancient times. We are talking about ISIS/Caliphate atrocities before Paris massacre. Putin will pound ISIS even if Paris did not happen to preserve Asad.

ah ok, gets.

Like i said, i don't mean to say that those lives they took prior to the Paris attacks don't matter -- they should. i'm well aware of the atrocities they have been committing -- raping women to make them Muslim, luring young women to join ISIS on the pretext of meeting potential husbands, mass executions of Christians and Muslims alike. i guess it says a lot that this renewed initiative came only after the Paris attacks.

[ClaNker]

Hmm, if you mean to say i consider ISIS as amateurs, no po, in fact i find them very resourcefule, ruthless, hardened. What i meant was that they're pretending to be radical Islam when they're really not.

ah ok, gets.

Like i said, i don't mean to say that those lives they took prior to the Paris attacks don't matter -- they should. i guess it says a lot that they only decided to move after a first world country like France got attacked.

Edit your previous post that says "What if they're just a bunch of thugs." Amateurs ang ibig sabihin nyan.

They're not pretending, they're radical islamists. Kaya nga caliphate and ginamit ko para mas maintindihan mo.

Oppss... You edited your post.

Yap remove the "thugs" and no I'm not accusing you of disregarding the lives the caliphate took before Parish.