Japan vs china...

[oliver1013]

Yung disputed islands, binili ng Japanese Govt sa private owners na Japanese.

Tupi eh..Automatic retaliation ata ang treaty ng US with Japan in case of attack.

Parang poker lang, sumubok mag bluff ni China, kumol si Japan, nagisip kung mag reraise si China pero parang kokol si Japan, nag fold nalang si china.

[timrev]

kala ko magkakasubukan na..at magagamit na ang mga military hardware nila sa makatotohanan laban...

[CoDer]

Yan na nga ba sinasabi ko eh, bahag buntot ni China.

[CoDer]

kala ko magkakasubukan na..at magagamit na ang mga military hardware nila sa makatotohanan laban...

Military hardware ng China na tatak CDR King.

[jansky]

ang kaya lang ng China mga bansang tulad ng Pinas.. so paano di na lilipat sa pinas ung mga factory ng Japan sa China.. sayang

better luck neks taym

[pop3corn]

China pela pela Lang, lagi lugi lol

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[jon777]

Parang poker lang, sumubok mag bluff ni China, kumol si Japan, nagisip kung mag reraise si China pero parang kokol si Japan, nag fold nalang si china.

The US issued a recent statement that the US-Japan Mutual Defense Treaty covers the Senkaku Islands. Parang sinasabi na ng US na sa Japan ang Senkaku

On the other hand, di nagsalita US about Scarborough Shoal

Straigh flush ba naman hawak ng Japan eh..... Ang China, full house lang.... On the other hand, alam ng China na high card Ace ang Vietnam at High Card Jack lang ang Pilipinas

[Skidrow]

China - People's Liberation Army Navy ships

Nuclear Ballistic Missile Submarines (4 in Service)
Nuclear Attack Submarines (5+ in Service)
Conventional Ballistic Missile Submarines (1 in Service)
Conventional Attack Submarines (50 in Service)
Assault ships (2 in Service)
Destroyers (29 in Service)
Frigates (48 in Service)
Missile Boats (120 in Service)

Baka hindi pa nakakarating ng Japan ang mga yan lumubog na .. Made in China eh :P

[ZENMasterTYL]

KJ naman ng CHN. Nagiinit pa lang eh

[TholitzReloaded]

sayang if we still have sana the US military bases in Subic and Clark, China would think more than twice to barge in on the scarbourough shoal, tuwing naalala ko I can't help but think how stupid our senators are back then, now I think they are feeling the consequences wala halos tayong magawa but to file a complaint in international tribunal, while china does not take us seriously.

[Gumusut_Amige]

KJ naman ng CHN. Nagiinit pa lang eh

heto bro may bagong twist
http://news.yahoo.com/china-japan-sh...business.html/

HONG KONG (Reuters) - The dispute between China and Japan over a desolate jumble of rocky islets in the East China Sea has taken a familiar turn with Beijing deploying a fleet of paramilitary patrol ships while similar Japanese vessels steam out in response.

As in earlier disputes over rocks and shoals in the South China Sea, Beijing is relying on these vessels rather than more menacing warships to assert its sovereignty over the disputed islands known as Diaoyu in China and Senkaku in Japan.

For both sides, the presence of lightly armed paramilitary ships reduces the risk of conflict, maritime experts say, while they retain the option of deploying more firepower if the dispute intensifies.

However, unlike China's recent sparring with the Philippines over Scarborough Shoal, this flare-up pits East Asia's two maritime powers against each other in a confrontation loaded with military risk.

If a clash erupted, experts warn it could be difficult to contain to the disputed area and would likely draw in the United States, Japan's security alliance partner, into hostilities with China.

The U.S. assistant secretary of state for East Asia, Kurt Campbell, said on Thursday the disputed islands were "clearly" covered by a 1960 treaty obliging the United States to come to Japan's aid if attacked.

"I actually don't think the two sides intend to fight a war over the islands this time," said Sun Yun, an expert on Chinese security policy at the Washington-based Stimson Centre.

"But, I do think it is more dangerous because the current round of tension is more emotionally charged than the earlier stand-offs in the South China Sea."

Politics may well keep the row simmering in the months ahead with a Japanese election expected by year's end and China preparing a leadership transition.

STEP INTO UNKNOWN

While China's maritime rise has captured global attention, Japan has also been quietly and unobtrusively building a powerful navy boasting some of the most advanced military technologies afloat.

If tensions over the disputed islands led to military conflict, it is not clear that China's navy could overpower Japanese forces as easily as it might expect to prevail against militarily weaker rivals in the South China Sea.

For both militaries, a naval clash would be a step into the unknown.

Japan's pacifist Constitution has insulated its navy from combat since it was shattered in the final stages of World War Two.

Modern China's navy is still in its infancy and also has no fighting experience.

In its three-decade military build-up, Beijing has transformed what was a rusting, obsolete, coastal defense force into a blue water navy that is increasingly capable of mounting deployments and complex operations far from the Chinese mainland.

In raw numbers, China is now the world's second-ranked naval power behind the United States with a fleet including about 80 major warships, 53 submarines, 50 landing ships and 86 missile patrol boats.

With a combination of Russian and homegrown hardware, it has deployed multi-ship fleets through the Japanese island chain and out into the Pacific ocean for exercises and training. Its ships have taken part in international anti-piracy operations in the Indian ocean. It has a fleet of advanced conventional submarines.

The most powerful Chinese warships and submarines are armed with deadly, Russian-made supersonic anti-ship missiles. However, the Chinese navy lacks operational training and experience, naval experts say.

BIGGER THAN BRITAIN'S

Japan's Maritime Self Defense Force is clearly smaller with about 48 major warships and 16 submarines but it remains a formidable force compared with other traditional naval powers.

It has twice as many surface warships as Britain's Royal Navy and twice as many submarines as the French navy.

Some of its key surface warships are equipped with the advanced U.S. Aegis combat system that combines computers, radars and information from other ships, satellites or aircraft to track multiple targets and guide attacking missiles.

Japan's conventional submarines are also regarded as some of the most advanced and stealthiest in the world.

Naval experts say the Japanese navy is also a highly trained professional force that has exercised for decades in its major roles of sea lane protection and anti-submarine warfare. It has also trained regularly with U.S. forces.

If a clash took place in the area of the disputed islands between the Japanese island of Okinawa and Taiwan, both sides could deploy land-based strike aircraft to support their forces.

However, security experts say it is highly unlikely that any fighting would be restricted to naval and air units in the disputed area.

BALLISTIC MISSILES

Beijing might tempted to use its huge arsenal of 1,200 ballistic missiles aimed at Taiwan to attack Japanese forces and bases.

If China was the aggressor, they say the United States would almost certainly support Japan.

"I don't think the U.S. could stand aside," said Ross Babbage, a security analyst and former senior Australian defense official. "There would be a huge international crisis and I'm not expecting that."

"And, I don't think either side really wants it."

However, there is always the danger of miscalculation and accident with big fleets of paramilitary patrol vessels on station and civilian protestors from both sides making landings on the uninhabited islands.

This risk is likely to remain, even if the current round of tension eases, maritime security analysts say.

The arrival of China as a naval power means Beijing now has the means to challenge Japan's control over disputed maritime territory in the East China Sea and the oil and gas thought to lie beneath.

(Reporting By David Lague, editing by Bill Tarrant)

[oliver1013]

Experience is key...an experienced protoss player with half a force could easily destroy a zerg force double its size especially if the zerg player is a newbie...


Japan has been fighting at sea since the early 1900's, Adm Togo's days. At mukhang mas quality ang gamit laban sa China.

[Monseratto]

Both countries tasted the pain of war, which neither want to experience again. That's enough of a deterrent to keep them going at it...

[pop3corn]

Alam nyo Eto ang Hindi ko makita sa world history particularly World War II, walang ninja. Tinanong ko nga yun mga kebigan ng lolo ko eh, kung nakasabak sila ng ninja sa bundok. Wala daw. I big sabihin totoo yun movie ni Tom Cruise inubos na sila tas si Tom Cruise ang the last Ninja

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[freeloader]

Against Russia.....Fail!, Against Japan.....Fail! Third world country lang talaga kaya ng China.

[boybi]

Alam nyo Eto ang Hindi ko makita sa world history particularly World War II, walang ninja. Tinanong ko nga yun mga kebigan ng lolo ko eh, kung nakasabak sila ng ninja sa bundok. Wala daw. I big sabihin totoo yun movie ni Tom Cruise inubos na sila tas si Tom Cruise ang the last Ninja

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Samurai yun, hindi Ninja

[compact]

Samurai yun, hindi Ninja

^ nagtanong pa talaga sa kaibigan ng lolo nya, FTW.

[Monseratto]

Against Russia.....Fail!, Against Japan.....Fail! Third world country lang talaga kaya ng China.

But they beat the hell out of the US during the Korean war didn't they?

Pati US natalo sa third world Vietnam...

The period from early November 1950 to late January 1951 was in many ways the most heartbreaking of the Korean War. During the previous summer the North Korean attack had been a total surprise, and the disastrous retreat to the Pusan Perimeter was painful in the extreme. However, the series of defeats could be explained by the necessarily haphazard and slow reinforcement of the outnumbered U.S. and South Korean forces. Moreover, these defeats were followed by elation as the Inch�on landings reversed the situation and the UN forces seemed on the verge not just of victory in South Korea but of total victory, including the liberation of North Korea and the reunification of the peninsula. All these dreams were swept away by the massive intervention of the Chinese Army in late November 1950. There would be no homecoming victory parade by Christmas.

The initial warning attacks and diplomatic hints by the Chinese were ignored by the overconfident Far Eastern Command under General MacArthur. MacArthur�s failure to comprehend the reality of the situation led the entire United Nations army to near disaster at the Ch�ongch�on River and the Chosin Reservoir. Only the grit and determination of the individual American soldiers and marines as they fought the three major enemies of cold, fear, and isolation held the UN line together during the retreats from North Korea. Once tied together into a coherent defensive line, under new and dynamic leadership, these same soldiers and marines showed their determination to continue the fight. Hard battles lay ahead, but the period of headlong retreats from an attacking, unsuspected foe, was finally over.

The Korean War: The Chinese Intervention

[yapoy86]

Samurai yun, hindi Ninja

natawa ako dito grabe.. pati ako nalito eh...

[hein]

Samurai yun, hindi Ninja

Proof na sira na yung Hard Drive ng utak ni pop3corn