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    #521
    Actually. Di lang talaga 10% yan. Yun yearly offering ay pabonggahan. Palakihan ng offer yun mga mayayabang na members dyan. Laki kita ni manalo dahil sa mayayabang. Hahaha.

    Sent from Milkyway

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    #522
    Ganito lang yan. Such verses never give points to INC's claims. Therefore, try to debunk through different interpretations and misinterpretations. Then they just pick verses that will serve their purpose or purposes. Hindi ba yung "Far East" eh kung san nalang hinugot.

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    #523
    pulot lan sa internet.


    (kulang sa details kun saan galing)

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    #524
    Jesus pre-existed His physical birth

    A. Jesus actually created the universe in Gen 1:1 (John 1:3, Heb 1:2,8-12; Col 1:16-17)

    B. Jesus existed before Abraham who died 2000 BC: John 8:56-58

    C. Jesus existed before John the baptist who was six months older than Jesus: John 1:15 + Lk 1:24-26

    D. Prophecies before his incarnation into Mary's womb:

    - He will be called "God with us": Isa 7:14
    - He will be called, "Mighty God, Eternal Father": Isa 9:6

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    #525
    Quote Originally Posted by antonath View Post
    Actually. Di lang talaga 10% yan. Yun yearly offering ay pabonggahan. Palakihan ng offer yun mga mayayabang na members dyan. Laki kita ni manalo dahil sa mayayabang. Hahaha.

    Sent from Milkyway
    Naku totoo yan. Meron nga dito sa probinsya, mag papain ang Ministro. Sya ang unang mag bibigay at malaki, eh ayaw naman mag patalo ng mga mayayabang na members kaya palakihan talaga.

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    #526
    "INC lang ang maliligtas."

    Kapag walang nasawing INC diyan sa Yolanda, BAKA maniwala pa ako!

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    #527
    The real anti-Christ are those who call themselves Christians yet they deny the deity of Christ! Alien?

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    #528
    Quote Originally Posted by skybison View Post
    pulot lan sa internet.


    (kulang sa details kun saan galing)
    Baka galing sa mag nilang PASUGO.

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    #529
    hindi na makasagot ng diretso yung alipores ni manalo

    puro copy paste na lang...

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    #530
    kahit anong sabihin nyo dyan sa alagad ni manalo, hindi na makikinig yan, na brain washed na kasi yan.

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    #531
    Quote Originally Posted by testament11 View Post
    Haba-haba ng sagot ni Mile2 pero wala akong naiintindihan sa sagot niya. Parang copy paste yun sagot
    Copy Paste di ba yung diagram ni Rezt ang copy paste

    In simple words, nakakita lang si Retz ng I John 5:7 that says "and these three are one." talon agad sa conlusion na "one God" di mo ba napapansin na dahil may preconceived doctrine na si Retz on top of his mind, he was actually reading the verse wrongly.

    Nakakita Trinitarian ng Jon 10:30 I and the Father are one...talon agad sila sa conclusion na one God pero wala naman sa talata.

    In another simple words ampaw yang doctrine of Trinity, kahit basahin mo Bible cover to cover hindi mo mababasa ang doktrine ng trinity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mile2 View Post
    Copy Paste di ba yung diagram ni Rezt ang copy paste

    In simple words, nakakita lang si Retz ng I John 5:7 that says "and these three are one." talon agad sa conlusion na "one God" di mo ba napapansin na dahil may preconceived doctrine na si Retz on top of his mind, he was actually reading the verse wrongly.

    Nakakita Trinitarian ng Jon 10:30 I and the Father are one...talon agad sila sa conclusion na one God pero wala naman sa talata.

    In another simple words ampaw yang doctrine of Trinity, kahit basahin mo Bible cover to cover hindi mo mababasa ang doktrine ng trinity.
    Sabihin na natin ampaw. Yun inyo ba eh hindi ampaw? Naku, kung icocompare natin ang mga tagilid ninyong doktrina, mas ampaw ang doktrina ninyo kasi madaming mali sa mga pamamaraan ninyo.

    Walang perfect na religion, yan ang tandaan mo. Aminado ako hindi perfect religion ang RC. Pero mas lalong hindi perfect ang INC dahil sa mga practices ninyo na una sa lahat, eh constitution violator ang religion ninyo.

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    #533
    Jesus Is Divine In Substance

    A. Col 2:9: the fullness of deity. Jesus prayed, "Father, glorify He with the glory I had with Thee before the world was" Jn 17:5. Jesus has been transformed back into the "form of God".

    B. Hob 1:3: exact representation of His nature

    C. Jn 14:8-10 He who sees Me sees the Father.

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    #534
    Sir testa. Teka. Hindi po religion ang INM. Kulto siya. Si manalo daw ang huling bisugo. Wtf diba.

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    #535
    Quote Originally Posted by Retz View Post
    Jesus pre-existed His physical birth

    A. Jesus actually created the universe in Gen 1:1 (John 1:3, Heb 1:2,8-12; Col 1:16-17)

    B. Jesus existed before Abraham who died 2000 BC: John 8:56-58

    C. Jesus existed before John the baptist who was six months older than Jesus: John 1:15 + Lk 1:24-26

    D. Prophecies before his incarnation into Mary's womb:

    - He will be called "God with us": Isa 7:14
    - He will be called, "Mighty God, Eternal Father": Isa 9:6
    a lot of your verse to support your model of Trinity can be easily explained pero natatawa ako ginamit mo pa Isa. 7:14 "God is with us" eto pa ibang pangalan baka puede mo silang isama sa mga dios mo hehehe

    Lemuel - belongs to God (EL)

    Elijah - Yah is my God (EL)

    Elisha - God (EL) is salvation

    Joshua - God (Yah) saves.

    Samuel - God (EL) has heard.

    (Angel) Gabriel - Strength of God (EL).

    (Angel) Michael - Who is like God (EL).

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    #536
    Ito pa:

    Philippians 2:6: "Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage"

    Ang daming mga sitas sa bibliya implying ng pagka Diyos ni Kristo. Bakit ba nagbubulagbulagan ang INC?

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    #537
    Haynaku. Asan naman nakalagay na last messenger or sugo si Felix manalo? Asan naman nakalagay na ang INC lang maliligtas? Ay naku. Kinalimutan mo rin sagutan mga katanungan ko sa mga naunang pahina.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mile2 View Post
    Copy Paste di ba yung diagram ni Rezt ang copy paste

    In simple words, nakakita lang si Retz ng I John 5:7 that says "and these three are one." talon agad sa conlusion na "one God" di mo ba napapansin na dahil may preconceived doctrine na si Retz on top of his mind, he was actually reading the verse wrongly.

    Nakakita Trinitarian ng Jon 10:30 I and the Father are one...talon agad sila sa conclusion na one God pero wala naman sa talata.

    In another simple words ampaw yang doctrine of Trinity, kahit basahin mo Bible cover to cover hindi mo mababasa ang doktrine ng trinity.

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    #538
    Quote Originally Posted by Retz View Post
    Jesus Is Divine In Substance

    A. Col 2:9: the fullness of deity. Jesus prayed, "Father, glorify He with the glory I had with Thee before the world was" Jn 17:5. Jesus has been transformed back into the "form of God".

    B. Hob 1:3: exact representation of His nature

    C. Jn 14:8-10 He who sees Me sees the Father.
    Stop qouting verses Retz, literal ang INC pag dating sa bible interpretation. Walang binangit ang bible regarding "God is three Persons" or "God is a Trinity." therefore walang Trinity para sa kanila.

    Bakit ngaba Iglesia ni Cristo/Church of Christ lang ang totoong pangalan ng tahanan ng Diyos at wala ng iba para sa kanila? Dahil yung ang naka lagay sa Bible.

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    #539
    Quote Originally Posted by rukawa11 View Post
    kahit anong sabihin nyo dyan sa alagad ni manalo, hindi na makikinig yan, na brain washed na kasi yan.
    brain washed? o brain washed-out? = wala nang utak


    pansin nyo puro bible verses na ang ipinaglalaban at pinapatulan, hindi na kayang sagutin yung simpleng tanong ng simpleng tao.--ganyan makipag-debate ang mga INC, ganyan ang turo sa kanila. dibale nang mawala ang magandang ugali maipaglaban lang ang kulto nila.

    isa lang ba ang die hard Iglesia dito? wala bang makakasagot kung nasa Bible ba nila si Manalo na sugo daw?

    mana pa sa muslim e, si Mohammad daw ang last prophet, 1435 years ago. si Manalo kelan pinanganak? tapos gagamitin ang Bible ng kristyano at sasabihing siya ang sugo...shabu pa!

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    #540
    Quote Originally Posted by testament11 View Post
    Sabihin na natin ampaw. Yun inyo ba eh hindi ampaw? Naku, kung icocompare natin ang mga tagilid ninyong doktrina, mas ampaw ang doktrina ninyo kasi madaming mali sa mga pamamaraan ninyo.

    Walang perfect na religion, yan ang tandaan mo. Aminado ako hindi perfect religion ang RC. Pero mas lalong hindi perfect ang INC dahil sa mga practices ninyo na una sa lahat, eh constitution violator ang religion ninyo.
    Basically, kung mali ang kinikilalang DIos ng isang religious group, ibig sabihin they are worshiping a false god. Kahit pa sabihin mong gumagawa ka ng mabuti tapos ina-alay mo sa false god balewala rin.

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