Iglesia ni Cristo Refused Shelter

[mitsuyota_lover]

Wala naman nagagalit di ba nagpost ka ng talata, sinagot ko lang sino ang AntiChrist

Kaya nga po paki explain ang lalim ng inglis eh di naman po kasi pwedeng maniwala ako sa sabihin saken na yan ang tutoo agad nang hindi ko naman naiintindihan, kahit ano pang sabihing maliwanag na nakasaad e malabo parin saken eh

[Syuryuken]

eto galing sa Leviticus: sa muling pagbalik ni Kristo ay magsusulputan ang mga bulaang propeta

ang tanong gaano na katagal ang INM?

[jut703]

Pansin ko lang, etong si pareng miles2 parang yung mga scribes at pharisees na tinuturo nung bata ako. Yung grabe kung maka-cite ng kung anu anong verses sa bible with corresponding justifications pa kuno.

Para sakin ha, simple lang naman eh - tumulong ka sa kapwa sa abot ng makakaya mo, at respetuhin mo ang kapwa mo.

Regardless of religion or race, I believe generosity, compassion, and respect are values that are universally revered.

Ang kaso, minsan yung doctrines pa mismo yung nakakasagabal sa pagpapalaganap ng kabutihan. Tulad sa example na ito (di ko sinasabing totoo, pero magandang example kasi) - if doctrine dictates that you should not let non-INC into your place of worship, but your conscience tells you that the right thing to do is to help out a fellow Filipino in need, mas susundin mo pa ba yung doktrina o kung ano yung tingin mong mabuti? Do you honestly think that God would honor the man who upheld the "sanctity" of their house of worship over the man who opened the gates and gave shelter to the unfortunate ones ravaged by the storm?

I am not a devout Catholic but I like the efforts of Pope Francis - following the principles of Vatican II, where we 1) should exercise our conscience to do what we believe is right and 2) should do good not only to Catholics but to everyone. I think that it's closer to the essence of love, which is what God wants, right?

Marami rin akong alam na iba pang religious denomination na may sari-sariling doctrines but at the end of the day nangingibabaw pa rin yung pagtulong sa kapwa.


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[cast_no_shadow]

Waaaa haba na ng thread para ibackread.

Change the thread title na.

Kudos to miles2 meron ngang die hard INC member ang tsikot.






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[mitsuyota_lover]

The concept of a three person God for the Trinitarian does not begin on the pages of Scripture since he simply cannot find a three person God reported anywhere therein. Rather, his three person God begins as an idea in his own mind. His God is created and fashioned; it is built as one builds an idol. The Bible is a very large book. One can create almost any concept if he picks and chooses ideas from its pages. So the Trinitarian begins with an idea of his creation in his mind and then travels through the pages of Scripture looking for building materials to make his God. And when he has collected enough building materials to satisfy himself, he creates his own god with his collected materials.

Although this three person God is not confessed anywhere in the Scriptures, this fact does not seem to bother the Trinitarian. It rarely occurs to him, if ever, that he could be worshiping a God that does not even exist - a false god, an idol. Indeed, most Trinitarians will not even allow themselves to entertain the possibility.

2 Timothy 3:1-5: But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of stress. For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, inhuman, implacable, slanderers, profligates, fierce, haters of good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, HOLDING THE FORM OF RELIGION BUT DENYING THE POWER OF IT.

[Dark Lord]

Yeah eto na nga sinasabe ko eh. Hehehe. Hindi ko na nga dinagdagan yung nicea council at yung ibang verses ni john. Kasi hindi ko pa rin maintindihan sa mga taga INC kung paano banggitin ang paganong emperor na may dahilan kuno sa pagiging Diyos ni Kristo. pero sa kabilang banda iba naman interpretasyon sa bibliya ngayon na produkto rin ng nicea council na gumawa kuno sa pagiging Diyos kay Christ. Sasabihin na mali mali hindi Diyos kesyo hindi binanggit. Baka buhay na si Manalo nuon at nakapag attend siya ng nicea council. Pero 1914 lang siya naliwanagan na itayo ang sambahan.

Without INC's political play in the philippines, i believe they will not be as strong. They wont be able to recruit as much. If not for the iron willed implementation and execution of its leaders, they wont be much of a force to reckon with. Just my two cents worth though. Peace to all!
INFOGRAPHIC: What you should know about the Iglesia ni Cristo

Constantine I: In hoc signo vinces (in this sign you will conquer!)

Welcome to "bible" study thread.

[Dark Lord]

Amen to that.

Pansin ko lang, etong si pareng miles2 parang yung mga scribes at pharisees na tinuturo nung bata ako. Yung grabe kung maka-cite kung anu anong verses sa bible with corresponding justifications pa kuno.

Para sakin ha, simple lang naman eh - tumulong ka sa kapwa sa abot ng makakaya mo, at respetuhin mo ang kapwa mo.

Regardless of religion or race, I believe generosity, compassion, and respect are values that are universally revered.

Ang kaso, minsan yung doctrines pa mismo yung nakakasagabal sa pagpapalaganap ng kabutihan. Tulad sa example na ito (di ko sinasabing totoo, pero magandang example kasi) - if doctrine dictates that you should not let non-INC into your place of worship, but your conscience tells you that the right thing to do is to help out a fellow Filipino in need, mas susundin mo pa ba yung doktrina o kung ano yung tingin mong mabuti? Do you honestly think that God would honor the man who upheld the "sanctity" of their house of worship over the man who opened the gates and gave shelter to the unfortunate ones ravaged by the storm?

I am not a devout Catholic but I like the efforts of Pope Francis - following the principles of Vatican II, where we 1) should exercise our conscience to do what we believe is right and 2) should do good not only to Catholics but to everyone. I think that it's closer to the essence of love, which is what God wants, right?

Marami rin akong alam na iba pang religious denomination na may sari-sariling doctrines but at the end of the day nangingibabaw pa rin yung pagtulong sa kapwa.


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[170kphlang]

Kasi naman, wala naman masama kung aaminin na may mali sa tinuturo ng INC eh. Nabubuking na kayo kaya ayaw na ninyo sumagot. O kaya ayaw niyo sumagot dahil narerealize na ninyo yun mga maling tinuturo sa inyo ni Manalo.

Never ever in my whole life na narinig kong mas mataas pa si Manalo ke Jesus Christ. For God's sake, hindi niyo pwedeng sabihin yan.

Jesus = Holy Spirit = Father God. Iisa lang ang Diyos, 3 persona, pero ilan ang Diyos? 1 lang...

Ulit ah, metamorphic ang bible. Di ito dapat iniinterpret ng kung sino-sinong tao lang. Di rin dapat nga ito ginagawang course dahil walang nakakaalam ng totoong meaning ng bible.

para mo naring kinausap si tanda, seksi at pogi no? obvious na obvious na bistado na, deny parin :D

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[170kphlang]

In worship service you'll get spiritual nourishment you will need to live a Christian way of life.

and them manalos will get financial & stability nourishment

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[MrQ5]

I am not a devout Catholic but I like the efforts of Pope Francis - following the principles of Vatican II, where we 1) should exercise our conscience to do what we believe is right and 2) should do good not only to Catholics but to everyone. I think that it's closer to the essence of love, which is what God wants, right?

Marami rin akong alam na iba pang religious denomination na may sari-sariling doctrines but at the end of the day nangingibabaw pa rin yung pagtulong sa kapwa.


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katwiran ng tao yan. sundin mo inaakalang mung tama dahil nagmamalasakit ka lamang.

may pangyayari sa biblia na yung nagbubuhat ng kaban ay namatay. bakit? di nya sinunod ang utos ng Diyos, na wag hahawakan ang kaban.

ng parang mahuhulog yung kaban SA PAGMAMALASAKIT NYA SINALO NYA ITO AT NAHAWAKAN.

_di lang ako sang ayon sa ex sa di pagpapsok sa mga kapilya ng inc. Good day mga ka-tsikot!

[ClaNker]

Is it not just a little bit crazy to claim the main character of the Bible is an identity who is never once mentioned or confessed in the entire Bible where God is the main character and mentioned thousands of times? One can search from the first page to the last and never find one mention of a three person God. Although God is mentioned thousands of times on the pages of the Bible, not once is God identified as a three person being. The Trinitarian three person God is nowhere to be found in the Bible.

Ano ka ba. Nag sabi lang ako ng... Ang bibliya ng huling sugo. Bow!

Humirit ka nanaman ng trinity. Tao nga lang si Kristo at si Manalo ang Katuparan ng Revelation. Abay walang sinabi si Kristo kay Manalo ah.

[Dark Lord]

Naalala ko tuloy classmate ko noong highschool na member ng isang kulto na iglesia ni manalo...sobrang hilig niya sa pulutan namin ng dinuguan.

Bago ko malimutan, nung araw may kaklase ako sa review school na kaanib sa INC. Si kapatid na INC eh madalas ko makita sa St. Jude thaddeus kasama ng mga kaklase rin namin na mataimtim na humihiling na palarin sa nalalapit na board exams. Take note: araw araw na novena to. Classic case of "seeking additional help" sa takot na bumagsak at mapagalitan siguro ng magulang.

[ClaNker]

Bago ko malimutan, nung araw may kaklase ako sa review school na kaanib sa INC. Si kapatid na INC eh madalas ko makita sa St. Jude thaddeus kasama ng mga kaklase rin namin na mataimtim na humihiling na palarin sa nalalapit na board exams. Take note: araw araw na novena to. Classic case of "seeking additional help" sa takot na bumagsak at mapagalitan siguro ng magulang.

Bangitin mo ang pangalan at ng maitiwalag yang hudas.

[Dark Lord]

Bangitin mo ang pangalan at ng maitiwalag yang hudas.

Hehehe. Wag na. Saint for the impossible si st. Jude. Baka naging imposible ang kanyang pag pasa. Malamang nakakapagcontribute na ang isang yun sa kanilang sambahan.

[radz15]

May tanong lang ako sa mga member ng INC dito. Actually natapos ko na yung doctrina ko pero hindi ako satisfied. Eto yung tanong ko na hindi masagot ng maayos ng ministro na nag doctrina sakin.
Question: laging sinasabi sa samba ng INC na pag hindi ka kaanib sa INC ay hindi ka maliligtas. Sinisigaw pa lagi ng ministro na NO EXCEPTION. DAPAT KAANIB KA SA IGLESIA PARA MALIGTAS KA. Ang tanong ko. Pano yung mga taong nakatira sa uncivilized na lugar at hindi nila kilala si Jesus at ang Diyos Ama, hindi ba sila maliligtas?.. Ang sabi sakin ng ministro maliligtas naman sila pagbabasihan lang ang klase ng pamumuhay nila.. D ko lang masabi sa kanya na kala ko ba no exception. At dapat member ng INC sabi nyo sa samba nyo? May exception naman pala eh... At ang swerte pala kuno ng mga tanong hindi kilala si Jesus at ang Dyos Ama dahil pwede sila maligtas.

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[chrismarte]

Mile2 tanong la po ha, pag may pagtitipon kayo nagsasabi din kayo ng Amen?

[ClaNker]

That’s why we have “PASALAMAT”(Thanksgiving) Yearly(December), where more big amounts where offered. Why? Like the verse mentioned above, it is to BRING or GIVE BACK what he GAVE TO US. So, don’t be surprised if we offered big amounts also because that what’s we saved(church check, the green cards) for a year. We just gives back what God gave us, like he saved us for all the danger, he gives us what we wanted and etc.

More money!

[Syuryuken]

Mile2 tanong la po ha, pag may pagtitipon kayo nagsasabi din kayo ng Amen?

amen!

Here are some of the other un-biblical, or extra-biblical, doctrines that Iglesia Ni Cristo (INC) teaches:
• They believe that one must hear the gospel from authorized INC messengers and ministers.
• They believe the official name of the church is “Iglesia Ni Cristo.” Other names are not the true name of the church, and thereby false churches.
• They believe a person must be a member of an INC church and be water baptized to be saved.
• They believe people must avoid eating dinuguan, which is pork blood stew, a Filipino delicacy.
• Their members must avoid joining trade unions.
• Their members must avoid court sessions.
• They must vote in blocks.
• They are under compulsory church attendance.
• They must give tithes to the church.

According to the INC, all of the above rules and regulations are mandatory in order for a person to be saved. The Bible, of course, teaches that salvation is “the gift of God, not of works, lest any man boast” (Ephesians 2:9).

Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/Iglesia-...#ixzz2kv3n2CzM

[ali_diego]

ng dahil sa thread natoh, napasimba ako...sa pagkakaakalang....katapusan na ng mundo....hahahaha....

[Retz]

Ito ung sitas na payborite ng INC pag sinsabi nila si Kristo ay hindi Diyos:

John 17:3
Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent - NIV.