Iglesia ni Cristo Refused Shelter

[jut703]

Pareng miles, curious lang, pasagot naman nung tanong kanina...yung saan ba nasusulat na si Manalo yung sugo?

Follow-up question, bakit ka naniniwala na siya talaga ang sugo at hindi ibang tao? Sa dami-dami ng tao sa mundo, anong nagpabilib sa'yo na siya nga talaga at hindi lang niya kayo lahat niloloko?

Hindi ako nanggagago or anything ha. Gusto ko lang talaga maintindihan yung backing ng faith mo. Sana seryosohin mo yung tanong ko. Salamat.

[Retz]

John 10:30-33: "I and my Father are one. Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God."

[Dark Lord]

Nicean Council is about inserting the belief of 3 person God. Earlier than 325 AD The Father alone was God.

Yeah right... inc's views are just so contradicting to me and the others.

[Mile2]

Philippians 2:6: "Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage."

mas malinaw pa sa sikat ng araw yan.

morphe

This Greek word is commonly translated into English as "form." Trinitarians tend to interpret this Greek word as if it means "divine nature." However, this is not without major difficulties.

First, the evidence for this words demonstrates it refers to appearance, what is beheld with the eyes. But God is invisible indicating his divine nature is invisible. The Father an invisible divine nature or they would not have the same divine nature and they would not be one in terms of Trinitarian doctrine.

Thayers Greek Lexicon says:

The form by which a person or thing strikes the vision; the external appearance: children are said to reflect psuches te kai morphes homoioteta (of their parents) (418).

It must be recognized that Paul did not say, "... although he was God..." as Trinitarians tend to read this verse. Rather, he said, "... subsisting in the form of God..." If Paul thought Jesus was to be identified as God, why would he say Jesus was subsisting in the form of God rather than just indicating he was God. Paul could have just as easily said, "... although he was God..." But he didn't.

[Retz]

Rev. 1: 8: I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Rev 1:18: I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

Sino ang tinutukoy dyan sir mile2?

[Mile2]

Pareng miles, curious lang, pasagot naman nung tanong kanina...yung saan ba nasusulat na si Manalo yung sugo?

Follow-up question, bakit ka naniniwala na siya talaga ang sugo at hindi ibang tao? Sa dami-dami ng tao sa mundo, anong nagpabilib sa'yo na siya nga talaga at hindi lang niya kayo lahat niloloko?

Hindi ako nanggagago or anything ha. Gusto ko lang talaga maintindihan yung backing ng faith mo. Sana seryosohin mo yung tanong ko. Salamat.

He thought the true God of the Bible simple as that.

The same God of Moses, Isaiah, David, Jesus, the apostles and the early Christians. - The Father alone

[dr. d]

religion is the one topic where everyone is right, and everyone else is wrong, depending on who's talking.
can't we just close this thread? it has overstayed its welcome.
besides, threaders have strayed away from the original topic..
perhaps we should re-name the topic, "my quotes are better than yours, even if i don't understand half of what i am quoting"...
heh heh.

[Mile2]

John 10:30-33: "I and my Father are one. Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God."

I and the Father are one - tapos tatalon ka agad na ibig sabihhin ng talata eh one God, wala yan sa talata huwag mong pigain ang wala sa talata.

They are one in tending the flock basahin mo ang buong John 10 para maunawaan mo kung ano ang ibig sabihin ng "are one"

thou, being a man, makest thyself God." Magkaiba transalation yata yan kinuhan mo, iba ang God sa god.

The Jews answered him, "It is not for a good work that we stone you but for blasphemy because you, being a man, make yourself a god."

[Retz]

Religion is like a penis. It's fine to have one and it's fine to be proud of it, but please don't whip it out in public and start waving it around.

[ClaNker]

Ang false dyan is yor claim that Christ is God

O sabi ko nga tao lang si Cristo eh. He is the contradiction on how the bible describe a mere man.

[Retz]

I and the Father are one - tapos tatalon ka agad na ibig sabihhin ng talata eh one God, wala yan sa talata huwag mong pigain ang wala sa talata.

They are one in tending the flock basahin mo ang buong John 10 para maunawaan mo kung ano ang ibig sabihin ng "are one"

thou, being a man, makest thyself God." Magkaiba transalation yata yan kinuhan mo, iba ang God sa god.

The Jews answered him, "It is not for a good work that we stone you but for blasphemy because you, being a man, make yourself a god."

patay tayo dyan sir mile2x. yan na nga mga flawed reasoning and explanation niyo.

[[archie]]

For reasons unknown, previous thread was deleted. But the fact remains, you said these things:

Fact: you quoted the bible "everyone MUST give"

Fact: you deny na kung wala ka pera, hindi pwede sumali.

Fact: Those two are contradicting.

Who is right?

A. You

B. Bible

I think your common sense should be able to grasp on how to answer.

It's a simple question. Hindi pa ba kaya ng common sense mo yung question?

[badkuk]

Ang false dyan is yor claim that Christ is God

Um...sorry, you lost me there sir. i'm not going to debate which one is the true religion, true God, etc. Your church, your choice...

...pero di ba INC = Iglesia ni Cristo -- Cristo as in Christ? Am i missing something here?

[Mile2]

O sabi ko nga tao lang si Cristo eh. He is the contradiction on how the bible describe a mere man.

For there is One God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. (1 Timothy 2:5).

[Mile2]

patay tayo dyan sir mile2x. yan na nga mga flawed reasoning and explanation niyo.

flawed ay yung reasoning mo, nakabasa ka lang ng "are one" talon ka na agad sa conclusion na one God

the early christians was was also mentioned to one with God, do you also jump onto conclusion that they too are Gods?

[Mile2]

Um...sorry, you lost me there sir. i'm not going to debate which one is the true religion, true God, etc. Your church, your choice...

...pero di ba INC = Iglesia ni Cristo -- Cristo as in Christ? Am i missing something here?

in english Church of Christ

[ClaNker]

For there is One God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. (1 Timothy 2:5).

So? He's still a man, a contradiction of the bible.

[_Cathy_]

Wag na wag kang makipag debate in person sa mga INC lalo na pag may mga kasama yan. Black eye aabutin mo.

Wow. 20 pages in less than 24 hours.

Mahirap talaga makipagtalo sa religious fanatics

[[archie]]

Wow. 20 pages in less than 24 hours.

Mahirap talaga makipagtalo sa religious fanatics

I retract my statement... Mahirap makipagtalo sa mahina common sense.

[dr. d]

Wow. 20 pages in less than 24 hours.

Mahirap talaga makipagtalo sa religious fanatics

at least, dito, it's from other sources other than google or wikipedia.. straight from the heart, o straight from the Bible study notes? OR, may program na bang nag-a-identify ng quotes at may explanation?
ako kasi, pasado sa religion dahil lang sa good attendance...