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    #81
    Tingnan natin pag tinangal yung free visa ng Pinoy sa HK kung ano ang manyari. Malaking sapul din dito ay yung nga fruits na export sa HK na in billion $.
    At least yung mag politikong tatakas ay di na makaka puntang HK para sa final destination niya. hehehe

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    Personally, the apology is not for what the hostage taker did. But for what the authorities failed to do. Our govt has more than enough time and had some opportunities to subdue Mendoza and prevent bloodshed.

    Hindi naman apology on behalf of all the Filipinos ang kelangan dahil obviously hindi naman buong bansa ang may kinalaman. Kapulisan, local at some national govt officials ang may pagkukulang.

    Right after the tragedy, a lot of us are quick to point out the mistakes. International media covered it but of course Filipinos or at least the president wont admit it.

    Ang pinagtataka so, bakit sa Taiwan case walang problema nung sabihing coast guard natin ang mali. Eh dito sa Luneta hostage taking, hindi matanggap ng presidente na pagkakamali ang mga tao niya.


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    #83
    [OFW] yung Surrender Button ng Philippines.

    The HK lawmakers will press on it sooner or later.

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    #84
    Bakit kasi ayaw niyo kayo na lang lumuhod sa gitna ng causewaybay? Sige na, walang mangayayri ingay niyo dito sa tsikot.

    Meron dito tagal tagal na umaasa mag sorry Ph sa HK, hanggang ngayon disappointed pa rin...


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    #85
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Bakit kasi ayaw niyo kayo na lang lumuhod sa gitna ng causewaybay? Sige na, walang mangayayri ingay niyo dito sa tsikot.

    Meron dito tagal tagal na umaasa mag sorry Ph sa HK, hanggang ngayon disappointed pa rin...

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    HK leader gives the PH 1 month to act on the victims of the hostage takng.

    Malapit na nila pindutin yung Surrender Button ng Pinas.

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    #86
    Quote Originally Posted by marg View Post
    HK leader gives the PH 1 month to act on the victims of the hostage takng.

    Malapit na nila pindutin yung Surrender Button ng Pinas.
    ang tagal naman ng 1 month pindutin na nila kasi para malaman na kung puputok o hindi

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    #87
    Sige lang, push for an apology and see what that may cause. Hindi ito parang mga bata lang na "sorry na" tapos na kwento.

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    #88
    Quote Originally Posted by [archie] View Post
    Sige lang, push for an apology and see what that may cause. Hindi ito parang mga bata lang na "sorry na" tapos na kwento.
    i suspect na pahiyain nila si PNoy kung mag sorry sya...tingnan nyo ginawa nila kay erap kahit sincere yung sorry na ginawa nya

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    #89
    Saying sorry means admitting it was the fault of the government. Which means somebody in the government should be put in jail. Hindi mangyayari yan.


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    Intay na lang kayo ng 2016 samahan niyo si erap and binay lumakad ng paluhod from causewaybay to TST...


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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Intay na lang kayo ng 2016 samahan niyo si erap and binay lumakad ng paluhod from causewaybay to TST...


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    Tapos deretso Macau para mag Casino. :D

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    #92
    magkano kaya visa to hongkong? sana pwede ung multiple entry.

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    #93
    I gotta wonder what kind of satisfaction the families of the HK victims will get if they know that any apology coming from the PH is the result of coercion and economic sanctions.

    Kunin na lang nila footage ni GMA to say "I am sorry".

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    #94
    apologizing will indicate we/they did something wrong. unlike the Taiwan issue, it was clear that it was really wrong. the HK hostage scenario was not handled very well but they did try to prevent casualty. it may have been tactically wrong but not like the Taiwanese shootout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madduck View Post
    apologizing will indicate we/they did something wrong. unlike the Taiwan issue, it was clear that it was really wrong. the HK hostage scenario was not handled very well but they did try to prevent casualty. it may have been tactically wrong but not like the Taiwanese shootout.
    I think that there is a very big difference between the Taiwanese fisherman shooting and the HK tourist bus tragedy.

    It all starts with who the perpetrator is.

    In the former, government security forces (active PCG personnel) deliberately fired upon an unarmed boat which was already scampering away and causing the death of the fisherman, while in the latter, it was a deranged man who shot the HK tourists inside the bus.

    In the case of the PCG, all coast guard personnel were charged with homicide after due investigation.

    In the case of the HK bus tragedy, AFAIK, only the ground commander was charged administratively for negligence. While I agree that other higher officials should have been held liable and charged, the one primarily responsible for the deaths of the HK tourists was himself shot dead. There was already an offer of reparation to the families immediately after the incident but I don't know if it was accepted.
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    #96
    mag ask na din tayo na mag sorry ang china sa pagkamatay ng Pinoy tourist sa Beijing Tianamen Square (si Dr. Nelson Bunyi)

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    #97
    China have a hand on this obviously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [archie] View Post
    Sige lang, push for an apology and see what that may cause. Hindi ito parang mga bata lang na "sorry na" tapos na kwento.
    Huge compensation demand will follow after this is even if almost all of them were already compensated before. Ika nga nung beijing diplomat... Say sorry so you can be sued.

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    #99
    i-play na lang ung im sorry vid ni gma. very sincere pa pagkasabi nun.

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