HK Lawmakers propose ban on maids to force apology over Manila bus tragedy

[marg]

what would be the implications if pnoy will apologize?

PNoy should have apologized a long time ago.

It was really a NATIONAL EMBARASSMENT.

[K.I.L.L.]

Be careful what you wish for. Its a easily replaceable job, they are really not attached to their kasambahay. Iba dito.



The economy not much, they rely more on the mainlanders. Have you seen those mainlanders on their shopping spree? Nakasabay ko minsan sa LV, inubos nila yun mga bags. Eh ang mga ofw, they need to save para may masend home.

The mainlanders are rabid shoppers. They'd have a massive effect on any economy. A lot of airport and even shop personnel around the world have now been trained to speak Mandarin to accommodate them.

I think there's still a good number of pinoys who buy things there. I know quite a few who go to HK regularly to buy clothes and things. But yes, what we spend pales in comparison to what the mainlanders spend. It makes you wonder how much money they have.

[Retz]

what would be the implications if pnoy will apologize?

I think it is all about national pride sir.

[falken]

I think it is all about national pride sir.

Are we supposed to be proud of how we handled the hostage situation? We f*cked up.

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[Altis6453]

Are we supposed to be proud of how we handled the hostage situation? We f*cked up.

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True. But the real reason that we fvcked up was not because 8 HK nationals died.

It was because of the lack of consequences or sanctions against those who managed or participated in the whole affair (i.e. Puno, Lim, Manila-SWAT). PNoy should have just followed the recommendations of De Lima in toto. IMHO, that's probably what the families of the victims were after since the perpetrator already died in a hail of bullets.

[falken]

True. But the real reason that we fvcked up was not because 8 HK nationals died.

It was because of the lack of consequences or sanctions against those who managed or participated in the whole affair (i.e. Puno, Lim, Manila-SWAT). PNoy should have just followed the recommendations of De Lima in toto. IMHO, that's probably what the families of the victims were after since the perpetrator already died in a hail of bullets.

And the only one charged was the brother of the assailant. Nobody was made to account for the whole fiasco. That's what got the ire of the victim's families.

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[Monseratto]

Many of the goverment officials involved have left or were voted out of office. Also Malacanang claims to have paid compensation to most of the victims...daw.

Say sorry to Hong Kong, JV Ejercito tells PNoy | ABS-CBN News

Say sorry to Hong Kong, JV Ejercito tells PNoy
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Posted at 10/10/2013 7:52 PM | Updated as of 10/10/2013 7:52 PM

MANILA - President Benigno Aquino should apologize to Hong Kong for the botched Manila hostage-taking crisis three years ago, Senator JV Ejercito said Thursday.

Ejercito, in a press statement, said Aquino should show humility and own up to the incident that led to the death of 8 Hong Kong tourists and the police officer who took them hostage.

"We were the one at fault, we should apologize. President Aquino ought to show humility on this hostage issue, which had already cost us millions in revenue," he said.

Ejercito claimed that the Philippines has lost around $12 million in revenues because Hong Kong tourists are avoiding the country.

He accused the Aquino administration of sacrificing tourists revenues in exchange for pride.

China earlier this week renewed its call for Aquino to say sorry for the incident.

Survivors and relatives of the victims have been demanding an apology from the Philippine government. They also seek compensation and punishment for the officials responsible for the incident.

"The Chinese government's position on the Hong Kong hostage crisis is consistent and clear. We urge the Philippine government to pay high attention to the requirements and concerns of the families of the victims, take concrete and effective measures and work out a proper solution as soon as possible," Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Huan Chunying said in Beijing.

[chookchakchenes]

Hindi alam ng mga lespu kung ano dapat gawin. Ito ang linaw ng ebidensya.



Sige lang hataw....masabi lang may magawa....sige hataw pa.



After the hostage crisis. Walang cordon na maayos. Ginawang postcard ng proud to be pinoy movement.



Pwede sana palagpasin kung nalimutan maglagay ng proper cordon. Pero kung ito ang mapapapicture-taking eh malaki talaga problema ng noypi sa pag-gamit ng camera phone.

[boybi]

Bakit sa Taiwan nag apologize, sa HK ayaw talaga?

[falken]

Hindi alam ng mga lespu kung ano dapat gawin. Ito ang linaw ng ebidensya.



Sige lang hataw....masabi lang may magawa....sige hataw pa.



After the hostage crisis. Walang cordon na maayos. Ginawang postcard ng proud to be pinoy movement.



Pwede sana palagpasin kung nalimutan maglagay ng proper cordon. Pero kung ito ang mapapapicture taking eh malaki talaga problema ng noypi sa pag-gamit ng camera phone.

Iyan nga ang nakakaasar diyan eh, di muna nagisip bago kumuha ng picture. Lalo na yung mga taga SOCO, ex cop na nga yung pumatay sa hostages, palpak pa yung operasyon ng SWAT. Kumuha pa ng mga taga SOCO ng personal pics doon.

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[nelany]

Bakit sa Taiwan nag apologize, sa HK ayaw talaga?

Pag pina uwi na yung 160K na Pinoy sa HK saka lang yan mag aapologize. Sana kuyugin siya ng 160K na Pinoy ng matauhan.

[Lew_Alcindor]

Bakit sa Taiwan nag apologize, sa HK ayaw talaga?

Yan ang malaking katanungan. Yung Taiwan situation, dapat mas pinanindigan yun kasi disputed ang lugar na pinagyarihan. Mattyer of national security.

Yung Luneta tragedy. Kapalpakan lang ng gobyerno yun eh. Ilang oras ang itinagal nun eh wala silang nagawa?

And pnoy apologists can still defend not apologizing. Why apologize to Taiwan only?

[crazy_boy]

clear lang natin. hindi SWAT yung mga lespu na nasa pictures. hindi naka lapit yung mga SWAT dahil may politics sa MPD. ayaw nila papasukin mga SWAT.

[roninblade]

madali naman mag-apologize ah. there is no loss of face when you apologize for a clear mistake. our loss of face is in handling the hostage crisis and in the shitty behavior of people after.

edit: personally, i don't think HK would react this way or this strongly if the botched incident happened in the US or other western country. over-reacting yan call to ban foreign domestic helpers from PH. why punish hardworking people who are helping their own citizens. pure BS.

[cardict]

Three years has passed after the incident and only the killer's brother formally charged and none of the KKK buddies of PNoy joining him. It is enough to test anyone's patience, especially for the victim's family.

That's what friends are for

[cast_no_shadow]

Wala naman kinaiba sa mga lawmakers natin, biruin mo nga lang tayo ng ibang lahi ang tindi na ng reaction ng mga nakaupo sa pwesto kulang na lang ipatumba yun nag biro.

For me tama lang na hindi nag apologize si pnoy, wala naman siya kasalanan ang mali lang is heads should roll dapat, yun mga incompetent persons na sumablay sa trabaho dapat ang may sanctions.


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[Retz]

safe and sound talaga pag KKK ni Pnoy.

[nelany]

Talagang abnoy itong kups na ito.
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[ghosthunter]

This is a classic case of nitpicking. Every little action we do are perceived as an insult to them.

I wonder if ever the hostage taking happened in the US, will they actively pursue banning Americans then?

Eh? ... if the hostage taking happened in the USA, it would have ended differently, with the hostage taker shot and potentially everyone else alive.

[nelany]

Eh? ... if the hostage taking happened in the USA, it would have ended differently, with the hostage taker shot and potentially everyone else alive.

Correct, ilang beses na naka expose yung salarin and they should have taken the shot. Ang daming amo na gustong sumikat kasi.