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    #2721
    bypass the middleman

    the end user (ung magsasaing) goes straight to the farmer and buy palay?

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    #2722
    pag agriculture ibypass na dapat middleman.

    Dito dapat papasok government. Kaso mahirap kasi matinong puso gagawa nito.

    Para yumaman ang farmers kasi sila nagpagod

    Middleman at lalo na yung presyuhan sa palengke naka mafia yan.

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    #2723
    Quote Originally Posted by hinlog View Post
    Un palay ngaun per kilo is around 14petot at today's price afaik. Ano ang mangyayari pag naging 20 ang kilo ng bigas, 5petot?

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    SUBSIDIZED USING TALLANO GOLD

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    The frontrunner wants the government to help the farmers from choosing the right palay seed, planting (subsidize the fertilizer, irrigation), mechanism in harvesting, buying the palay to warehouse, to selling the bigas to consumers. It's like Kadiwa-style of the past.
    Last edited by TopEngine; April 28th, 2022 at 04:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    pag agriculture ibypass na dapat middleman.
    pag dating sa gulay...

    walang trak mga vegetable farmer

    may namumuhunan binibili ung gulay tapos binibiyahe papunta NCR

    kung kaya ng farmer dalhin sa NCR ang gulay at magbenta direct sa end user why not?

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    All the more reason, she should be freed.

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    #2728
    yung mga farmer wala capability bumili truck yan. Jan dapat papasok government. Wag na mangcocommission. Purely service dapat.

    hindi dapat lahat ng ikikilos profit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TopEngine View Post
    The frontrunner wants the government to help the farmers from choosing the right palay seed, planting (subsidize the fertilizer, irrigation), mechanism in harvesting, buying the palay to warehouse, to selling the bigas to consumers. It's like Kadiwa-style of the past.
    I'm now buying rice by the kilogram since college dropout frontrunner says he will drop rice prices to P20/kg.

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    #2730
    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
    I'm now buying rice by the kilogram since college dropout frontrunner says he will drop rice prices to P20/kg.
    next biggest joke yan bro.

    ang perennial problem ng mga farmers ay sa kakulangan ng irrigation.
    dito na lang sa amin marami na akong nakikitang nakatiwangwang na sakahan.. di na sila pwedeng asa na lang sa tubig ulan. quite time na palitan na siguro yung mga namamahala sa NIA.
    Last edited by Gumusut_Amige; April 29th, 2022 at 01:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastator View Post
    All the more reason, she should be freed.

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    The more chilling question is: If they were able to concoct such lies to incarcerate a sitting senator, imagine the thousands na "nanlaban".

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    #2732
    Quote Originally Posted by TopEngine View Post
    The frontrunner wants the government to help the farmers from choosing the right palay seed, planting (subsidize the fertilizer, irrigation), mechanism in harvesting, buying the palay to warehouse, to selling the bigas to consumers. It's like Kadiwa-style of the past.
    Ilang taong forever na yan ginagawa ng gobyerno - kahit sino nakaupo - yan ang ginagawa..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew_Alcindor View Post
    Ilang taong forever na yan ginagawa ng gobyerno - kahit sino nakaupo - yan ang ginagawa..
    maybe past administrations didn't do much on palay production improvement.

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    #2734
    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
    I'm now buying rice by the kilogram since college dropout frontrunner says he will drop rice prices to P20/kg.
    if rice will be pegged at P20 a kilo..how much will the farmer get from it? P5 with out subsidy

    probably more with SUBSIDY

    how will jeprox jr fund the SUBSIDY? THRU TALLANO GOLD

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    #2735
    Quote Originally Posted by kisshmet View Post
    if rice will be pegged at P20 a kilo..how much will the farmer get from it? P5 with out subsidy

    probably more with SUBSIDY

    how will jeprox jr fund the SUBSIDY? THRU TALLANO GOLD

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    According to the frontrunner's agriculture platform, the gov't would be purchasing fertilizers, improve irrigation, encourage & improve cooperatives, mechanize harvesting, provide post-harvesting facilities, no more middlemen, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TopEngine View Post
    According to the frontrunner's agriculture platform, the gov't would be purchasing fertilizers, improve irrigation, encourage & improve cooperatives, mechanize harvesting, provide post-harvesting facilities, no more middlemen, etc.
    Sounds like the GMA fertilizer scam all over again. What about the fuel for the machines? And who pays for all that? Tax-payer? How about shelling the P203B backtaxes first so Digong can leave something for the next president like PNoy did in 2016? See these are the things that will be asked and he should address during a debate.

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    #2737
    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
    Sounds like the GMA fertilizer scam all over again. What about the fuel for the machines? And who pays for all that? Tax-payer? How about shelling the P203B backtaxes first so Digong can leave something for the next president like PNoy did in 2016? See these are the things that will be asked and he should address during a debate.
    Was that the fertilizer for Makati? educate me. Of course, from taxes. P203B tax?! I thought i'll-gotten? Gov't should just seize it. Not i-ll gotten? So it was just used for propaganda. Gov't could just sell the portion of the estate.

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    #2738
    Quote Originally Posted by TopEngine View Post
    maybe past administrations didn't do much on palay production improvement.
    Puede din hinde nating maramdaman dahil naging subdivision or tinabunan na ang mga palayan tulad ng mga ilang lugar sa laguna.

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    #2739
    Quote Originally Posted by TopEngine View Post
    According to the frontrunner's agriculture platform, the gov't would be purchasing fertilizers, improve irrigation, encourage & improve cooperatives, mechanize harvesting, provide post-harvesting facilities, no more middlemen, etc.
    ukraine-russia conflict will affect fertilizer production on a worldwide scale so fertilizer will be more expensive that will affect the purchase price of any government for that matter..likewise fuel cost are surging due to that conflict that will affect the mechanized harvesting you mentioned

    effects of climate change destroys rice crops on a regular basis

    villar and other land developers plants houses when they convert these agricultural lands to gated communities

    even without the middle men factored in..the cost of producing rice is on an upward trend which is contrary to the promise of a P20 rice price per kilo

    so the only way to achieve the P20 per kilo campaign promise will be to HEAVILY SUBSIDIZE these farm inputs..hence my question about source of FUNDINGS all of these..kaya nais namin malaman kung sa TALLANO GOLD ba kukunin ang pondo para maisakatuparan ang pangakong P20 per kilo rice

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    Last edited by kisshmet; April 29th, 2022 at 11:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TopEngine View Post
    According to the frontrunner's agriculture platform, the gov't would be purchasing fertilizers, improve irrigation, encourage & improve cooperatives, mechanize harvesting, provide post-harvesting facilities, no more middlemen, etc.
    is it possible,
    the farmer will be willing to forgo all that,
    "taasan lang nyo ang presyo ng bili nyo sa palay namin".

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