Duterte's Platform Of Government

[Yatta]

is it possible,
the farmer will be willing to forgo all that,
"taasan lang nyo ang presyo ng bili nyo sa palay namin".

Which means the government will be buying alll the unpolished rice at a loss, mill it at loss, then again sell it at a loss. Yeah that will sit well with the taxpayer.

[dr. d]

Which means the government will be buying alll the unpolished rice at a loss, mill it at loss, then again sell it at a loss. Yeah that will sit well with the taxpayer.

nopo.
when i said, "taasan nyo..."
i meant it to include, lahat nang bibili ng palay.
government, private, middlemen, everyone.
hindi na sila babaratin nang kahit sinuman.

[Yatta]

nopo.
when i said, "taasan nyo..."
i meant it to include, lahat nang bibili ng palay.
government, private, middlemen, everyone.
hindi na sila babaratin nang kahit sinuman.

Then that flies against the P20/kg promise. In Japan rice prices are like P85-100/kg. Its intentionally kept that high despite all their advances in rice-growing technologies to keep the farmers incentivized and stay in business (well like almost all Japanese businesses and companies).

[dr. d]

Then that flies against the P20/kg promise. In Japan rice prices are like P85-100/kg. Its intentionally kept that high despite all their advances in rice-growing technologies to keep the farmers incentivized and stay in business (well like almost all Japanese businesses and companies).

... i see no other way to keep our farmers incentivized, than by making it attractively advantageous to them to remain being farmers.
let them want to be farmers because it is attractive being a farmer.
hindi yung, farmer sila because there is nowhere else to go.

[Ry_Tower]

... i see no other way to keep our farmers incentivized, than by making it attractively advantageous to them to remain being farmers.
let them want to be farmers because it is attractive being a farmer.
hindi yung, farmer sila because there is nowhere else to go.

Agree on this. It's the middlemen and rice cartels that actually makes profit. Dun dapat focus on how farmers can sell their produce at a good profit and the gov't do something about the hyped farm-to-market principle. Hindi kasi magwa-gawa yan because of rice cartels and rich middlemens who have NFA officials under their spell as well. Dagdag mo pa new cronies ng admin na ito na gumawa pa mga bagong guile rice importers.

[uls]

is it possible,
the farmer will be willing to forgo all that,
"taasan lang nyo ang presyo ng bili nyo sa palay namin".

pero kailangan tanggapin ng end user mas mahal na bigas

you can't have both -- good price for farmer, cheap price for end user

unless an entity absorbs the loss

[uls]

like gov't buys rice from farmers at good price

then sells the rice to consumers at breakeven or below cost

[Ry_Tower]

pero kailangan tanggapin ng end user mas mahal na bigas

you can't have both -- good price for farmer, cheap price for end user

unless an entity absorbs the loss

Agree, mas mahal talaga sa P20 ang bigas kahit pa maganda kuha sa farmers at may intervention in between. The industry's system -good or bad - is so entrenched na mahirap i-overhaul agad yan or modernize (for the longest time na sinasabi). Papayag ba middlemen and rice cartels na basta-basta na lang mawawala milking cow nila.

[uls]

di ko alam specific details in turning raw rice into rice we put in the rice cooker

but i think i can say with certainty it's not farmers that handle that process

they don't have capital and machines to do that

somebody has to buy raw rice from farmers, put it in machines, and result in the final product -- rice in sacks destined for the rice cooker

since farmers can't do that, it's people with capital that wiil -- the middlemen

that's where money is made

if you "cut out the middlemen" the question that comes to my mind agad -- who is gonna turn raw rice into rice we put in the rice cooker?

[Ry_Tower]

di ko alam specific details in turning raw rice into rice we put in the rice cooker

but i think i can say with certainty it's not farmers that handle that process

they don't have capital and machines to do that

somebody has to buy raw rice from farmers, put it in machines, and result in the final product -- rice in sacks destined for the rice cooker

since farmers can't do that, it's people with capital that wiil -- the middlemen

that's where money is made

if you "cut out the middlemen" the question that comes to my mind agad -- who is gonna turn raw rice into rice we put in the rice cooker?

Nothing bad here unless the squeeze is made during this phase of rice production. Dito laganap yung ipitan, utangan (with crippling ineterests), bad negotiations, gulangan etc. Hindi naman lahat ng middlemen sablay dyan but the system itself is broken. Yun kelangan ng tulong from gov't. The bargaining table is not equal kasi.

But the result is obvious, mas malaki kita at mas maayos buhay ng middlemen at cartels. So kumikita talaga sila but the farmers are squeezed.

[dr. d]

if you "cut out the middlemen" the question that comes to my mind agad -- who is gonna turn raw rice into rice we put in the rice cooker?

in the distant past, someone already suggested a solution.
his recommendation, was to make the farmers THE middlemen. organize them and educate them, so's they process and distribute their own product.
but for reasons this and that, the recommendation did not bear fruit.

[Ry_Tower]

in the distant past, someone already suggested a solution.
his recommendation, was to make the farmers THE middlemen. organize them and educate them, so's they process and distribute their own product.
but for reasons this and that, the recommendation did not bear fruit.

Cooperatives was supposed to be one of the solutions. Meet some na yan lang work, to organize farmers to make a cooperative but not enough support talaga. Napabayaan. Intention was good though.

[Yatta]

Cooperatives was supposed to be one of the solutions. Meet some na yan lang work, to organize farmers to make a cooperative but not enough support talaga. Napabayaan. Intention was good though.

Cooperatives work. Farmers in the cooperative pool their resources to buy fertilizer in bulk, buy threshing machines, delivery trucks and even mills. But alas crooked politicians can sometimes be in cahoots with middlemen who block the construction of farm to market roads, block delivery trucks, or just plain put up lots of red tape.

[Tha_Mann]

nung nag harvest kami ng palay last March, ang bili sa amin eh Php13/kilo na. medyo mataas pa nga yan dahil maganda yung quality ng palay namin, yung iba eh nasa 11-12 pesos lang.

kung balak nila gawin 20-30 pesos ang presyo ng bigas eh, malaking pera ang need nila para ma subsidized ito. sayang nde ko na save yung gumawa ng computation nito sa fb/yt, basta need ng gov't ng billions para ma subsidize ang bigas.

[bugsmobile]

nung nag harvest kami ng palay last March, ang bili sa amin eh Php13/kilo na. medyo mataas pa nga yan dahil maganda yung quality ng palay namin, yung iba eh nasa 11-12 pesos lang.

kung balak nila gawin 20-30 pesos ang presyo ng bigas eh, malaking pera ang need nila para ma subsidized ito. sayang nde ko na save yung gumawa ng computation nito sa fb/yt, basta need ng gov't ng billions para ma subsidize ang bigas.

Ok na ba ang 203B? Hehe

[Tha_Mann]

Ok na ba ang 203B? Hehe

haha ayun pwede. gawin nya yun ng matuwa pa tao sa kanya hehe.

[Ry_Tower]

Cooperatives work. Farmers in the cooperative pool their resources to buy fertilizer in bulk, buy threshing machines, delivery trucks and even mills. But alas crooked politicians can sometimes be in cahoots with middlemen who block the construction of farm to market roads, block delivery trucks, or just plain put up lots of red tape.

These are farmers kaya need talaga tutok para maging successful ang cooperative. Some are naman pero karamihan na alam ko hindi na-sustain. Sayang. Tingin ko malaking bagay if maayos itong program na ito.

[Yatta]

nung nag harvest kami ng palay last March, ang bili sa amin eh Php13/kilo na. medyo mataas pa nga yan dahil maganda yung quality ng palay namin, yung iba eh nasa 11-12 pesos lang.

kung balak nila gawin 20-30 pesos ang presyo ng bigas eh, malaking pera ang need nila para ma subsidized ito. sayang nde ko na save yung gumawa ng computation nito sa fb/yt, basta need ng gov't ng billions para ma subsidize ang bigas.

Eto ang detalyadong sagot ng frontrunner para magawa yan:

[TopEngine]

they could do it in Leyte, let's do it in the rice granary provinces of Philippines

[TopEngine]

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