Digong, The President

[Ry_Tower]

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Much better alternative sana kesa naman parang tanggapin na lang natin ang dawsawala.

Another thing, yung sinasabi na gusto ng tao ng change, ibang change naman ang nasa isip nila vs sa changeiscamming. My point is, niloko lang sila. Mabuti sana kung talagang yung nasa isip nila ang mangyayari, pero hindi eh.

I get it democracy kasi, panalo manok nila. Pero kung tactics naman na ginamit eh alam mong hindi ang best candidate mananalo, matutuwa ka ba?

It is one thing to know what is the reason for what's happening, and another to just sit by and accept it as such. Dyan tayo hindi umuunlad eh. Sa halip na sabihan mo yung iba na mali yan and there is a better way, it will not create the change needed to propel the country forward, eh sabihin mo pa na tadhana yan. Parang self-justification na rin lang nangyayari imho.

[uls]

this was written before the election:

As one of the first liberal democracies in East Asia, the Philippines, which has been among the fastest growing economies in the world, has followed a similar pattern. A more careful look at the country, however, reveals that recent growth has been far from inclusive, while political dynasties have been dominating the elected institutions.

The 40 richest families, for instance, accounted for 76 percent of newly created growth in recent years - the highest rate of growth-concentration in Asia.

Meanwhile, up to 70 percent of legislators hail from political dynasties, which control 73 out of 80 provinces. The Philippines, just like India, Indonesia, and Peru, is essentially an oligarchy disguised as democracy.

in hindsight, this analysis is pretty good

Both Duterte and Marcos are astutely tapping into the deep-seated frustration of certain sections of the society.

They are, for instance, very popular among the residents of Metro Manila, who have been suffering from the world's worst traffic jam, lack of rule of law, and growing income inequality.

Promising more political autonomy for provincial regions, Duterte is now a leading candidate in the central and southern islands of Visayas and Mindanao.

The richest and most educated demographic classes are also largely supporting both strongmen candidates, who have promised to bring about a more effective form of governance to the country.

too many years of too much freedom resulted in autocratic nostalgia

democracy fatigue

high growth that wasn't inclusive

too many people left behind

some elites were also marginalized coz they weren't kabarkada, ka-alumni, or whatevs

support for the autocrat didn't only come from so-called "tards"

there were elites that supported the autocrat

[baludoy]

something to chew on



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[uls]

Duterte to USA

[Ry_Tower]

democracy fatigue --> autocratic nostalgia

democracy-autocracy supercycle

(supercycle meaning it takes decades or a full generation to happen)

that supercycle has been observed in many countries

it's a powerful cycle

30 years after EDSA 1986, autocratic nostalgia put du30 in power

(poe, binay, roxas, santiago didn't have that appeal)

Somehow I digress a bit for the current political scenario in the Phils.

Afterall it is not only marcos nostalgia that was a factor. If that was it, Imelda would have been Pres. already.

The bigger factors imho is the pooled resources of GMA, Erap, BBM and China plus the strategy and tactics they used. All points to devious machination of the people's mind which means the theory of autocratic cycle that happened is not a natural phenomenon. If PDigong won just like how VP Leni did, no doubt the 16M ba or 21M voters were swayed on their own. Kaso hindi ganun eh. PDigong himself was a willing culprit, just as you would say Noynoy won because of her mother's nostalgia.

But there is a big difference in the way Noynoy or VP Leni used the people's sentiment to get to power vs how PDigong's handlers did it.

[uls]

i said autocratic nostalgia

the autocrat being referred is du30

[Ry_Tower]

this was written before the election:



in hindsight, this analysis is pretty good




too many years of too much freedom resulted in autocratic nostalgia

democracy fatigue

high growth that wasn't inclusive

too many people left behind

some elites were also marginalized coz they weren't kabarkada, ka-alumni, or whatevs

support for the autocrat didn't only come from so-called "tards"

there were elites that supported the autocrat

Ganun din naman ngayon diba? Sino ba kumikita? Nalipat lang sa VisMin, pati mga smugglers nalipat din. hehe

Kaya yung the Noynoy admin got what they deserve as for doing their business, BS lang yun. Ganun din naman ginagawa ngayon ng current admin. Paulit-ulit na lang ito eh.

It is easier to accept PDigong if only he did want change. Kaso hindi eh. Same same. Just different color. So ano maganda dun?

[Ry_Tower]

i said autocratic nostalgia

the autocrat being referred is du30

What I mean is marcos as an autocrat nostalgia. People did see that somehow with PDigong, afterall he did idolized the guy.

[uls]

again, 30 years after edsa 1986

autocratic nostalgia put du30 in power

3 decades / 1 generation

democracy --> autocracy supercycle

happened like clockwork

[baludoy]

the duta urinal stickers are becoming quite the hit

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[baludoy]

lord bong bong wants you!




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[uls]

Ganun din naman ngayon diba? Sino ba kumikita? Nalipat lang sa VisMin, pati mga smugglers nalipat din. hehe

Kaya yung the Noynoy admin got what they deserve as for doing their business, BS lang yun. Ganun din naman ginagawa ngayon ng current admin. Paulit-ulit na lang ito eh.

It is easier to accept PDigong if only he did want change. Kaso hindi eh. Same same. Just different color. So ano maganda dun?

who said anything about "maganda"?

did i ever say in this thread na mas "maganda" ang du30 admin?

i always said i'm glad nawala sa power ng LP

doesn't matter to me who's in power now

basta huwag lang LP

that has always been my stand

so noong tinanong ako ni Jut kung Marcos o Leni, ang sagot ko sa kanya kung LP si Leni ayaw ko manalo si Leni

[Ketib]

My point is, niloko lang sila.

Prove sir, kung niloko lang ako. How certain you are in your statement?

[Ketib]

lord bong bong wants you!




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??????????

[Ketib]

who said anything about "maganda"?

Yes Uls, this admin is way better kaysa dati. Galit lang sila sa rascal na bungana ni Digong at striktong pamamaraan at maraming nasasagasaan.

[baludoy]

??????????

mind you, i'm not even a fan of aquino


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[uls]

Prove sir, kung niloko lang ako. How certain you are in your statement?

i don't care kahit hindi na sila magpakita ng proof na niloko ang mga tard (pero sila ang mahilig humingi ng "proof")

i can go beyond that and assume niloko ang 16M or 21M na tard

ok, niloko sila

tapos?

there should be 16M or 21M people in the streets by now calling for du30 to step down

where are they?

who are the ones in the streets?

one or two hundred english-speaking middle class students holding placards along katipunan

maybe later pa

baka sa 2nd half ng term ni du30 dadami ang tao sa kalye

as inflation keeps rising making life even more difficult

doon na siguro lalabas sa kalye ang 16M or 21M

[Ketib]

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Reaction is pareho ba sa realidad?

[Ketib]

mind you, i'm not even a fan of aquino


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I am not taking of fans club here. Idol? Mga "Pagano" lang gumagawa nyan.

[Ry_Tower]

Prove sir, kung niloko lang ako. How certain you are in your statement?

Madali mag-deny. Lalo na kung pagano ka.

Ikaw ano proof mo na hindi ka naloko? Natupad ba pangako niya sa iyo?

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