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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    Sir, you sound open-minded and you don't seem to be one of my haters

    can you please read these articles?

    The Philippines' autocratic nostalgia
    The Philippines' autocratic nostalgia | Asia Pacific | Al Jazeera

    The Folly Of Philippines’ Autocratic Nostalgia
    The Folly Of Philippines' Autocratic Nostalgia | HuffPost

    if clicking the links don't work please google them

    please read them please

    thanks
    I don't hate. It's just that your observations are annoyingly true.

    Anyway, I agree with the articles you posted. That's why Mahathir and the then daughter of park chung hee got into power. I think yan din ang trend sa europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamur View Post
    Bro, anong meron kaya sa anak ni marcos or ni dutiti? Remember, genes are passed on to the kids.

    LOOK: Robredo's eldest daughter Aika earns master's degree from Harvard University | Inquirer News

    Ay, si bobong marcos Oxford "graduate" pala.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.rap...pecial-diploma

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    Deuteronomy 24:16 ESV
    “Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin.


    As a family we support also previous admin, and why? because of this....

    Romans 13:1-7 ESV
    Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience. ...

    May mga time na I attacked also previous admin, but gusto ko lang depensahan kung sino man nakaupo ngayon sa mga taong pinanganak na "CRITIC" they always magnify the flaws but never talk about the good one.

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    #14163
    adam and eve's children, and their children's children, were cast out of Paradise, for their parents' sin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    A very depressing thread[emoji20]

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    Indeed. We have former presidents who were ex-cons and plunderers and an incumbent who is a murderer and a misogynist. Yet they hate the Aquinos for being a plain housewife, an abnoy and insensitive.

    What kind of values do we have as humans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by A121 View Post
    I don't hate. It's just that your observations are annoyingly true.

    Anyway, I agree with the articles you posted. That's why Mahathir and the then daughter of park chung hee got into power. I think yan din ang trend sa europe.
    thank you Sir for reading

    i knew you're open-minded

    it's nice to share views with someone who does not quickly dismiss me as a du30 troll

    i believe, like you, in the autocracy --> democracy ---> autocracy supercycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    there's this perception that the Aquinos are as holy as canonized saints and the Marcoses are pure evil

    whoever wrote Phil. history after 1986 did a good job of creating that perception

    i can understand why BBM is so determined to return to national power

    He's on a mission to repair 30 years of damage to the Marcos name

    not only for himself but for his parent's grandchildren and descendants

    i'm not a martial law denier

    i know the history of martial law as well as the average gen X-er

    what if the Aquinos aren't half as holy as they portray themselves to be?

    what if the Marcoses aren't half as evil as their enemies want the public to believe?

    so if the question is OK lang ba sakin the Marcoses return to national power?

    i guess yes

    as if uulitin nila ang nagawa ng tatay nila which will only prove their enemies right

    they want to clean their name diba?
    Agree on this.. sabi nga nila history is written by victors.. hindi ako magtataka if there are good deeds done during previous era na hindi na namention sa history books dahil sa change of leadership.

    When I listen to Bongbong Marcos speeches, I couldn’t sense any hatred speech against his opponents. Compared sa iba.


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    Quote Originally Posted by A121 View Post
    I don't hate. It's just that your observations are annoyingly true.

    Anyway, I agree with the articles you posted. That's why Mahathir and the then daughter of park chung hee got into power. I think yan din ang trend sa europe.
    And would you also agree, sir, that marcos and his family, including the children, plundered the country?

    MARCOS’S PLUNDER AND WEALTH | Facts and Details

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    Not just china ass licker but brown nosing to DDS and Marcos supporters as well. Pwe!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    adam and eve's children, and their children's children, were cast out of Paradise, for their parents' sin.
    True Doc, but the text I posted was the Word after Eden. Sin is already there, God give His Word or regulation about the current situation.

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    #14170
    Quote Originally Posted by dreamur View Post
    Indeed. We have former presidents who were ex-cons and plunderers and an incumbent who is a murderer and a misogynist. Yet they hate the Aquinos for being a plain housewife, an abnoy and insensitive.

    What kind of values do we have as humans?

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    Ninoy was wrong??? Not worth dying for.[emoji17]

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    MANILA - Ombudsman Conchita Carpio Morales on Thursday said "great countries" need "strong institutions" rather than "strongmen."

    "Let me underscore that great countries do not need strongmen. They need strong institutions. Great men eventually perish but great institutions outlast them all," Morales said in a speech at the Integrated Bar of the Philippines (IBP) lunch forum in Makati City.
    Ombudsman Morales: 'Great countries need strong institutions, not strongmen' | ABS-CBN News

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    #14172
    Quote Originally Posted by dreamur View Post
    Indeed. We have former presidents who were ex-cons and plunderers and an incumbent who is a murderer and a misogynist. Yet they hate the Aquinos for being a plain housewife, an abnoy and insensitive.

    What kind of values do we have as humans?

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    No bai, mga aquino lang ang corrupt.

    Napaka linis ng hangarin ni Marcos at kung di sya pinatalsik ng mga Aquino eh ang ganda na sana ng pinas ngayon. Pati history dinuktor ng mga Aquino mapasama lang ang mga Marcos.

    Erap, at Gloria ay maganda rin ang hangarin pero tulad ng magulang pati sila sinira ni Pinoy.

    Look at bobong bai, wala akong makita o maramdamang hatred sa kanya.

    See what I did there bai? [emoji39]

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    #14173
    nobody is denying Marcos stole money

    same as nobody is denying du30 has flaws

    same as nobody is denying trump has major flaws and unfit to be president of the world's #1 country

    there are people who dislike the alternative candidates so much that they're willing to overlook the flaws of their chosen candidate

    people voted for trump coz they couldn't take 4 more years of liberal agenda (immigration, political correctness, etc)

    people voted for du30 coz:

    Almost half a century ago, in his book Political Order in Changing Societies, Harvard University professor Samuel Huntington perspicaciously observed the link between political instability and rapid economic growth among developing countries.

    Periods of accelerated economic growth, Huntington explained, tend to create growing inequality, deep frustration among the aspirational classes, and an explosion in social mobilisation.

    Amid instability and/or deepening social discontent, demagogues and autocratic personalities are in a strong position to capture the imagination of the disaffected sections of society.

    Instability, therefore, is more common among rapidly growing countries than those suffering stagnation or destitute.

    Huntington's thesis has been validated by recent developments across emerging markets, which have been the toast of international investors in recent years.

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    #14174
    Quote Originally Posted by dreamur View Post
    Sorry, I said I before that I will never post again in this thread. Triggered kasi ako sa marcos. [emoji25][emoji25][emoji25]

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    Ok lang yan bro ... marami naman nagsasabi na di na sila magpost sa iba't ibang thread ... meron pa nga nagsabi na di na sila babalik sa tsikot .... nagempake na kuno... pero guess what .... bumabalik at nagpopost din after a long hiatus ... di din nakapigil... wink wink...

    and we should all be vigilant against the return of the dictator ... this time via his relatives ... the dictator who destroyed our country to begin with ... and now is coming back supposedly to "repair" the country they destroyed ... WTF???? .... tanga na lang talaga mga Pinoy kung ... ay ewan.

    Hindi nga dutertard, marcos loyalist naman ... I wonder which sucks more ... oh yeah, the dutertard who's also a marcos loyalist.

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    #14175
    Quote Originally Posted by ClaNker View Post
    No bai, mga aquino lang ang corrupt.

    Napaka linis ng hangarin ni Marcos at kung di sya pinatalsik ng mga Aquino eh ang ganda na sana ng pinas ngayon. Pati history dinuktor ng mga Aquino mapasama lang ang mga Marcos.

    Erap, at Gloria ay maganda rin ang hangarin pero tulad ng magulang pati sila sinira ni Pinoy.

    Look at bobong bai, wala akong makita o maramdamang hatred sa kanya.

    See what I did there bai? [emoji39]

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    Subtle Brainwashing 101 .... parang si mypres ... sweet talk the girls into becoming your GF... and 16M got hoodwinked with their panties down.

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    Kalimutan na natin ang propaganda way before the election at kultura ng pinoy.

    So yes 16M idiots genuinely wanted change. Di dahil sa sikat ang kandidato at ayaw mapag iwanan ng mga dabarkads sa social media. Bah di masaya pag mga dabarkads mo lang ang may arm band at naka close fist selfie sa FB no! Stickers sa sasakyan? Gusto ko din nyan! [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

    Again its all about policy and not personality. Bandwagon mentality? Nah ah!



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    Galit yung tao dahil nadaya daw siya. I really hate underestimating people.

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    #14178
    Quote Originally Posted by A121 View Post
    I don't hate. It's just that your observations are annoyingly true.

    Anyway, I agree with the articles you posted. That's why Mahathir and the then daughter of park chung hee got into power. I think yan din ang trend sa europe.
    OT lang

    Sir,

    Please read this

    The Flight 93 Election

    The Flight 93 Election


    This was written by an intellectual supporter of Trump

    He wrote this under pseudonym Publius Decius Mus

    His real name is Michael Anton

    He made the case for voting for Trump


    --


    in case you missed it, i replied to you in previous page

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    #14179
    Sa America, 2 lang ... dems or reps ... bihira ang 3rd force ... in short, limited choice mga kano ... sa Pinas, anak ng tokwa ... ilan partido ba meron tayo.... yung kay marcos at aquino lang ba ??? .... last election we had poe, roxas, mypres, binay, santiago .... 5 yan ... as in lima in tagalog ... as in cinco in spanish .... as in wu in mandarin ... daming choices .... and last I checked, 5 is not equal to 2 di ba??? .... hmmmm.....

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    #14180
    democracy fatigue --> autocratic nostalgia

    democracy-autocracy supercycle

    (supercycle meaning it takes decades or a full generation to happen)

    that supercycle has been observed in many countries

    it's a powerful cycle

    30 years after EDSA 1986, autocratic nostalgia put du30 in power

    (poe, binay, roxas, santiago didn't have that appeal)

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