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    Quote Originally Posted by Wh1stl3r2 View Post
    Oo nga baka ma- "nanlaban umano sa pulis" ka bigla.

    Natakot na ako kay OB, 2M people is small to you?
    compared to 120M population oo. this drug cleansing matter is being blown out of proportions. DU30 is not the vigilante type na tira na lang ng tira. If he did that in Davao, davao is a war zone until now. surgical ang approach nya so don't you all worry. and that's what's happening' now.

    we need not even care if you or your family are not into drugs. even if one your siblings and relatives are into drug use, you don't need to even care.

    I think he is summarily cleansing the repeat offenders, yun labas masok sa kulungan because of drugs, homicide, and murder all-in-one.

    d'ba kayo din mismo nagtataka kumbakit meron mga tao sa paligid nyo, nagnakaw na nga the next month laya na. dyan galit si Du30, yan ang inurna nya

    his favourite term is 'beyond redemption'. i think he know the forces naman talaga if a person can still be redeemed or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonemus View Post
    Nanduduro naman talaga, gaya gaya kay Lolo Digong.

    But this is what really baffles me. Duterte keeps saying STOP or else... Pero ano yung or else?

    When various individuals and sectors start finding their voices and balls again, what will Duterte do when he's finally challenged directly? This never happened in Davao.

    the 'or else" doesn't concern you if you are a law-abiding citizen or a first time offender siguro. try to think out of the box people. there are evil men out there. dun sya nakatutok, not you. ano nag-smuggle ka lang na slang car stereo sa balikbayan box mo, kasama ka na sa or else. guilty ka lang lol

    make it a habit that not everything you read or hear do not apply to you, kasi sa na po-profile ko dito, parang ayaw ng strict rules kasi baka one time ma-apply senyo. hello, you are not centre of the universe. stop this inner ego

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    Quote Originally Posted by minicarph View Post
    the 'or else" doesn't concern you if you are a law-abiding citizen or a first time offender siguro. try to think out of the box people. there are evil men out there. dun sya nakatutok, not you. ano nag-smuggle ka lang na slang car stereo sa balikbayan box mo, kasama ka na sa or else. guilty ka lang lol

    make it a habit that not everything you read or hear do not apply to you, kasi sa na po-profile ko dito, parang ayaw ng strict rules kasi baka one time ma-apply senyo. hello, you are not centre of the universe. stop this inner ego
    OB, you are entirely out of order. It does not mean that when we question the way the administration is implementing its brand of justice we are against strict implementation of the law. On the contrary, it is Digong and his minions who are circumventing it and are not following the rule of law.

    I declare my income to the last centavo and pay my taxes on time and I am totally against using my money to reward a person who may have violated basic human rights.

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    #3984
    Meanwhile in Basilan:

    State of calamity declared in Basilan amid offensive vs Abus


    Nothing to see here, just some "not criminals" doing stuff "out of desperation". i'm pretty sure the approximately 2,000 displaced families are pretty desperate too.
    Last edited by badkuk; July 11th, 2016 at 11:12 PM.

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    On seeking emergency powers to solve the traffic problem, i do hope they can look at the insights on this article from Rappler.

    From: Solving the traffic problem

    Solving the traffic problem
    The grant of emergency powers to solve traffic is fraught with grave dangers for abuse

    Sylvia Estrada Claudio
    Published 6:00 PM, July 11, 2016
    Updated 6:26 PM, July 11, 2016

    I have been bothered by the news that President Duterte is thinking of resorting to emergency powers to solve the traffic problems of Metro Manila and the subsequent filing by Senator Franklin Drilon of a bill to grant him those powers.

    My experience as a human rights activist, particularly as someone who has gone through martial law, makes me wary of any suspension of the normal procedures of government and the checks and balances enshrined in the Constitution that effectively allows Congress and the Supreme Court to curb the power of the President.

    The framers of our Constitution think so too. Even a lay person would not mistake the tenor of its provisions which talk of emergency and war in the same breath. Thus in Section 23 (2), Article VI:

    SEC. 23. (1) The Congress, by a vote of two-thirds of both Houses in joint session assembled, voting separately, shall have the sole power to declare the existence of a state of war.

    It goes on to limit the granted powers to a specific time frame and very limited powers set by Congress.

    SEC. 23. (2) In times of war or other national emergency, the Congress may, by law, authorize the President, for a limited period and subject to such restrictions as it may prescribe, to exercise powers necessary and proper to carry out a declared national policy. Unless sooner withdrawn by resolution of the Congress, such powers shall cease upon the next adjournment thereof.

    Personally, I understand the frustration of people with the bad traffic in Metro Manila and the economic, social and environmental costs of this situation.

    Yet, because the grant of emergency powers is an unusual step and one fraught with grave dangers for abuse, I do not think it is something to be taken lightly.

    Don't get me wrong, I am not opposed to the proposition per se. My question is whether such a grant of powers would be effective in solving the problem. If this can be answered in the affirmative then, I would not necessarily oppose it.

    NIGHTMARE. We all know Metro Manila's transport system is a nightmare but are we willing to do something about it? File photo by Romeo Gacad/Agence France-Presse

    Traffic expert

    Being an advocate of seeking evidence-based advice from experts, I sought out a friend and UP colleague, Dr. Aurora Corpuz Mendoza, whose dissertation for her PhD was on factors leading to traffic violations by public and private drivers. She has been working on issues related to traffic ever since.

    My interpretation of her advice is that the practical steps that should be taken in the short-term, medium-term and long-term can be accomplished without emergency powers. In fact, these powers maybe irrelevant to these necessary steps.

    In the short-term, Dr. Corpuz Mendoza notes that an immediate step that should be taken is what she calls “high levels of enforcement” of traffic rules. This, I believe, is easy to grasp as most of us complain of the many traffic infractions that cause traffic build up. We all have vented our ire at public utility vehicles that stop at corners despite a green light to pick up passengers, people who own cars but no garages and therefore park their vehicles on even national roads, business establishments that encroach on sidewalks, jaywalking, people playing basketball in the middle of the street, politicians and religious institutions closing down major roads for their celebrations and so on.

    It is also good to remember the experiment taken last September when EDSA was taken over by traffic cops. This resulted in immediate and significant improvement in traffic, though it did reveal the need for next steps, such as the deployment of similarly trained and empowered cops in other thoroughfares.

    While this is an immediate solution, it will still take months. Traffic enforcers with no police powers need to be replaced with traffic police. These police need to be fully trained specifically for the job of traffic management and the enforcement of traffic laws. More importantly, corruption in the police force that allows violations like prolonged and illegal parking or even the setting up of semi-permanent commercial stalls on sidewalks and side streets is necessary.

    When I think about it, none of these measures actually can be helped and accomplished by emergency powers. The President needs no added measures to recruit and train traffic cops. And he has the power to get rid of abusive cops as it stands. The EDSA experiment shows that it can be done without emergency powers.

    I asked Dr. Corpuz Mendoza of other proposed immediate solutions that will require emergency powers such as the opening up of private roads. She does not believe this will be helpful. First, many subdivision roads are not built for high volumes of traffic. These roads are often narrow and residents park cars on these roads. Thus opening these roads will merely move congestion into these subdivisions without significantly reducing traffic.

    She also adds that the trade-off is too high in terms of increased vehicular accidents that often take the lives of children. Studies have shown that the majority of kids in traffic accidents live in homes where they are exposed to traffic. There is a reason, after all, why we have zoning laws in the country specifying residential areas.

    She also discussed short term solutions, such as the purchasing of more carriages for the MRT and LRT, which would also be of help.

    According to some, this can be fast-tracked if the President can skip the tedious processes of government purchasing. But I take previous experience on this matter as a warning that the regular processes, if properly conducted, are a safer route to take. During his time, President Ramos was given emergency powers to solve a power shortage crisis. This allowed him to contract immediately with independent power producers who dictated questionable terms that made government pay them regardless of whether it actually bought electricity from these producers as a PCIJ report notes. These unfair contracts continue to haunt us today. There is indeed a reason for these tedious purchasing procedures. Nonetheless it is the abuse of these procedures rather than in its implementation, as Pres. Duterte's own inaugural address implies, that problems arise.

    Dr. Corpuz Mendoza says that proven effective medium-term solutions include putting bus drivers on professional salaries rather than on the boundary system. Bus drivers on the boundary system are forced to break traffic rules and cause congestion in an attempt to fill their buses at all times. A salary would allow them to drive in accordance to traffic rules. Additionally these will decrease their exploitation and lead to safer driving. As it stands, bus drivers are on the road 17 to18 hours a day and many become drug addicted to shabu (methamphetamines) in order to stay awake.

    There is apparently already a DOLE order on this matter, something that has been strenuously opposed by bus operators.

    Other regulatory measures which will be opposed by bus operators will be a reform of the franchises issued by the LTFRB which has allowed three times more buses on EDSA than what traffic studies recommend. Trip generation studies will be needed to adequately determine franchises which is why this solution also needs time.

    Dr. Corpuz Mendoza notes further that our roads are multi-use roads with a variety of vehicles from trucks, to buses, to jeeps, to tricycles and pedicabs on the road. Studies will be needed to determine the proper mix of vehicles, she notes. But she is convinced that in Metro Manila, tricycles and jeepneys will need to eventually be phased out.

    Long term solutions for her include continuing traffic education for every citizen that can include modules included in the new K12 curriculum. She notes that current efforts at driver education are sorely inadequate and that it is not just drivers but everyone who needs to be educated on proper road use.

    Being a proper academic, Dr. Corpuz Mendoza pointed out that other experts such as urban and rural planners will need to be consulted for yet other solutions.

    Our discussion ended on the issue of how society must look at public transportation. Public transportation should be treated not just as a private enterprise but also as a public trust and this will require that this industry accept heavy regulation.

    Which brings me back the issue of political will.

    The current President came to power because it he has portrayed himself as a man of iron will in solving all the ills that have brought about the traffic problem: corruption, incompetence, monopolies for profit, poor police enforcement. He came to power proclaiming he is a socialist, which I interpret to mean he will treat public transportation as a public trust and will entertain policies for heavy regulation, if not outright nationalization. His ability to deliver on his promise to solve the traffic problem quickly and permanently, without resorting to emergency powers, will be a litmus test of the character of his leadership. – Rappler.com

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    #3986
    Mag nag post sa FB ng...

    "Show me who your friends are and I’ll tell you who you are"

    Ozamiz City Mayor Reynaldo Parojinog Sr. and Vice Mayor Nova Princess Parojinog-Echavez.

    Both are connected to Herbert Colangco(top 3 drug lord na nasa Bilibid)


    May sumagot naman ng...

    Sino sa kanila ang mukhang mag BFF?



    Kaka aliw ang trolling sa social media.

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    #3987
    http://www.philstar.com/headlines/20...-sona-protests

    hahaha, hindi pa umiinit tira na mga ka-brad niya sa kaliwa. Nak nang teteng talaga mga to, wala sinasanto. Wala man lang honeymood stage. Dutertards tirahin niyo na yang mga labor groups. Yan na lang pag-aksayahan mo nang panahon OB, for sure sulit panahon mo dyan, pare-pareho kayo na magagaling like kagalingan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badkuk View Post
    In the first place, who's pushing for federalism? Si Duterte lang ba?
    Two things I think are on his mind:
    1. Federalism will lessen Imperial Manila's preferential allocation of funding, projects, etc. and LGU's will get a bigger share of taxes.
    2. Federalism will in effect give areas with Islamic insurgency what they want, which is autonomy.

    Problem is, this is not good for the whole country. On the national level, things like credit ratings, national debt, currency value, inflation, etc will most likely be adversely affected. Political dynasties will be even stronger. What's to stop autonomous Mindanao from breaking off into another country entirely? This is a myopic view that solely exists to further the south's interest at the cost of the whole country. I realize that the south has been neglected for such a long time, but surely there are less damaging ways to do something about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    I'm pretty sure all of the local politicos are salivating at the idea.

    Bigger piece of the pie goes back to each district... meaning more projects and more kickbacks for everyone.
    Exactly. Change is coming. Barya na nga lang.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Para kay OB kasi everything is relative. Kaso from different world siya so yan problem.

    Nagsalita na pala mga traders/businessmen, they are wary of federalism because we are indeed not mature enough as a political country. Ano kaya sasabihin ni PGong at nang kanyang mga cabinet secretaries na ang tatapang kung magsalita. Parang nanduduro eh, "sumunod kayo or else!"..... Napanood ko lang presscon ni Bato at SolGen.
    Di ko na nga sinagot si OB dito or sa kabila, medyo nahilo na ako hehe. Some woukd even say we are not mature enough for democracy. Too many dumb people who can vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wh1stl3r2 View Post
    Two things I think are on his mind:
    1. Federalism will lessen Imperial Manila's preferential allocation of funding, projects, etc. and LGU's will get a bigger share of taxes.
    2. Federalism will in effect give areas with Islamic insurgency what they want, which is autonomy.

    Problem is, this is not good for the whole country. On the national level, things like credit ratings, national debt, currency value, inflation, etc will most likely be adversely affected. Political dynasties will be even stronger. What's to stop autonomous Mindanao from breaking off into another country entirely? This is a myopic view that solely exists to further the south's interest at the cost of the whole country. I realize that the south has been neglected for such a long time, but surely there are less damaging ways to do something about it.



    Exactly. Change is coming. Barya na nga lang.



    Di ko na nga sinagot si OB dito or sa kabila, medyo nahilo na ako hehe. Some woukd even say we are not mature enough for democracy. Too many dumb people who can vote.
    +100, federalism will make poor areas, even poorer and run by dynasties even more.

    Too many dumb voters pa talaga Pinas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    +100, federalism will make poor areas, even poorer and run by dynasties even more.

    Too many dumb voters pa talaga Pinas.
    Ayaw mo nyan RT? Pwede mo gawin private paradise yung balwarte niyo?

    Those two points are the main reasons within my grasp of federalism that make me wary. IMO, baka parang Brexit and kalalabasan where people made choices with a lack of understanding on issue.

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    And once the federalism genie is out of the bottle, and we find that it's not good, parang ang hirap nang bumalik sa dating sistema.

    As things are, seems Duterte is getting his way. If preferential allocation of funds is the problem, he can just easily tell his cabinet to allocate funds equally...."or else".

    i don't see why he should push something that will affect the PH henceforth(for better or worse, we don't know yet). If he can really get rid of corruption, then in theory all things should fall into place, without shifting to federalism. On the other hand, if we do lgo federal, and the people in government are still corrupt, then you're just making things worse.

    Eto nga ang di ko maintindihan kay Duterte: gusto niya siya masusunod(i.e. centralized), pero gusto din niya ng federalism, which *decentralizes* power.
    Last edited by badkuk; July 12th, 2016 at 01:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinj View Post
    Ayaw mo nyan RT? Pwede mo gawin private paradise yung balwarte niyo?

    Those two points are the main reasons within my grasp of federalism that make me wary. IMO, baka parang Brexit and kalalabasan where people made choices with a lack of understanding on issue.
    Gastos lang yang federalism Ganun na din naman nangyayari. hahaha

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    Ang Galing talaga ni Tatay Digong. 12 days pa lang, panalo na tayo sa West Phil Sea! Si Abnoy, 6 na taon di nya nagawa!

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    Quote Originally Posted by claRkEnt View Post
    Ang Galing talaga ni Tatay Digong. 12 days pa lang, panalo na tayo sa West Phil Sea! Si Abnoy, 6 na taon di nya nagawa!

    May gulay. Tsk tsk tsk. Walang kinalaman si Digong jan. Lahat yan is because of PNoy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akosidab View Post
    May gulay. Tsk tsk tsk. Walang kinalaman si Digong jan. Lahat yan is because of PNoy.
    It's sarcasm from Superman.


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    To President Duterte: deport Yasay, pwede?


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    si impakto yasay na lang dapat mag jetski papunta sa scarborough shoal since mukhang may special relationship naman sila ng china

    but the thing is, aren't cabinet men and women just reflecting the sentiments of the top dawg of the country?

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    Quote Originally Posted by baludoy View Post
    si impakto yasay na lang dapat mag jetski papunta sa scarborough shoal since mukhang may special relationship naman sila ng china

    but the thing is, aren't cabinet men and women just reflecting the sentiments of the top dawg of the country?
    Tandem ride na sila ni duts tapos back up nila sila mocha saka lahat ng dutertards.


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    Quote Originally Posted by baludoy View Post
    si impakto yasay na lang dapat mag jetski papunta sa scarborough shoal since mukhang may special relationship naman sila ng china

    Well, it was Duterte who made that jetski promise.


    but the thing is, aren't cabinet men and women just reflecting the sentiments of the top dawg of the country?
    Yasay should have represented the position of the PH gov't -- not Duterte's.


    Perception matters, even if it's all just bluff. China has been adamant in its claim, even if everybody(including themselves) knows they have no legal claim. Eto namang si Yasay, mismong Hague na nagsabi that it's ours, parang nalungkot pa. When other people see that you have weak convictions, why would they help you? When China sees weakness, you think they would give us a fair deal if and when we do negotiate with them?

    Part of me agrees with Duterte, the realistic approach would be to negotiate with China....what i don't understand is why he blabbed it to the media. i can't help but think he exposed/weakened our position.

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