2022 Presidential Elections

[jut703]

People are voting for BBM knowing full well that he’s a tax evader.

They’re voting him because it means mas madaling hindi magbayad ng tax under a Marcos presidency since nothing will be done to stop the bribery and corruption on filing taxes.

Bat nila boboto si Leni, baka habulin pa sila ng BIR pag hindi nagbayad ng tax. Dun tayo sa admin na puwedeng “dumiskarte”.


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[Sweetlucious]

^^^no.

Kahit si leni pa ang president, tuloy pa rin ang milagro. Ang naappoint lang naman ng president are the dept. heads, below that almost all are career officers. Kahit sino pang presidente nandyan pa rin sila. And they’re the one who people regularly deal with.

Look at customs, kung sino-sino na nilagay, tuloy pa rin ang ligaya.

[kisshmet]

unity ba kamo..e yun ngang reparation sa mga martial law victims tinututulan nya sa korte..mapagbalatkayo talaga itong si jeprox jr

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[Yatta]

Is he speaking Ilokano or Korean here?

[WallyWest]

Is he speaking Ilokano or Korean here?

It's the coke talking.

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[babkalakal]

medyo nalilito ako dito. ang sabi ng pinsan ko na pro-macoy ang kaso ay non-filing of itr. not necessarily tax evasion. ang intindi ko kinaltasan siya pero di siya nag file. so in her eyes hindi daw grave or moral turpitude iyon. correct ba?

ayoko isipin kung ako yung 4years di mag file saan ako pupulutin.

[baludoy]

Maganda iyong challenge ni former bir commish kim henares kay ferolino [emoji23]

https://twitter.com/Ron4Short/status...L1mugwj4g&s=19

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[Little Missy]

medyo nalilito ako dito. ang sabi ng pinsan ko na pro-macoy ang kaso ay non-filing of itr. not necessarily tax evasion. ang intindi ko kinaltasan siya pero di siya nag file. so in her eyes hindi daw grave or moral turpitude iyon. correct ba?

ayoko isipin kung ako yung 4years di mag file saan ako pupulutin.

Yan kasi ang sinasabi sa mga pro Jr na contents na napapanuod nila. Typical pinoy hindi na magreresearch maniniwala na lang.

Guilty siya sa hindi pagbabayad ng tax from 1982-1985. Criminal case, mas kasamang kulong ang hatol. Inapela niya. Sa CA, convicted pa rin siya pero binabaan ang hatol. Bayaran na lang niya yung tax + fines. Wala ng kulong.

Ano yung pinababayaran pa sa kanya kung totoong nagbayad siya.

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[jut703]

^^^no.

Kahit si leni pa ang president, tuloy pa rin ang milagro. Ang naappoint lang naman ng president are the dept. heads, below that almost all are career officers. Kahit sino pang presidente nandyan pa rin sila. And they’re the one who people regularly deal with.

Look at customs, kung sino-sino na nilagay, tuloy pa rin ang ligaya.

For sure corruption will not vanish even if it’s a Leni presidency. Anyone who thinks such is naive.

But there’s a difference between trying to get corruption from 100% to 95%, and leveling it up from 100% to 105%.

A businessman friend of mine did not vote for Vico in the last elections for Mayor. Mas gusto niya daw si Eusebio kasi alam na niya sino babayaran niya. Kay Vico daw baka dumaan pa sa tamang sistema mas maging hassle pa daw for them.


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[Ry_Tower]

medyo nalilito ako dito. ang sabi ng pinsan ko na pro-macoy ang kaso ay non-filing of itr. not necessarily tax evasion. ang intindi ko kinaltasan siya pero di siya nag file. so in her eyes hindi daw grave or moral turpitude iyon. correct ba?

ayoko isipin kung ako yung 4years di mag file saan ako pupulutin.

Walang binayaran, sabi nga ni Guanzon diba, rentals yung pinakita na resibo. If later nagbayad para hindi na makulong, ibig sabihin tax evasion talaga. Kung nagbayad ka na, bakit ka pa magbabayad ulit. Jeprox Jr both failed to pay and to file.

Kung failure to file lang, fine lang parusa sa iyo. RTC handed down imprisonment and fine kasi failed to pay and file nga. Upon appeal yung CA ang ewan ko ba at bakit sustained ang decision pero tinanggal ang imprisonment whihc is mandatory if may failure to pay. Subsequent payment will not cure the criminal act kasi. And sins personal responsibility anfd paying and filing, even if delegated yan sa mga tao mo, dapat sure ka na nagbayad at nagfile nga sila. Hindi rason na sa iba mo pinapagawa. The least you can do is check the receipt kasi.

Kahit mali pa kasi computation, paying anything is good faith. Compromise (alllowed sa BIR naman yan unless sobrang laki ng discrepancy) na lang if may surcharge and pagalitan mo staff mo.

[Ry_Tower]

Comelec exec justifies verdict on Marcos Jr. DQ cases: We're not saying failure to file ITR is okay | Inquirer News



so bottom line is ..... failure to file ITR is against the law, so as failure to pay your taxes ....
baka may gusto pang mag explain further...

Maling-mali yung statement na there is no law punishing tax evasion. Ang nakakatawa, the NIRC of 1977 was the brainchild of no other than FM. He was exercising both judicial and legislative power of the state during ML eh. hehehe

Nagpapalusot lang yang si Ferolino. Kahit Consti, Revised Penal Code or special law man yan, if it punishes an act or ommission or even negligence, it's illegal. See Tax Code Sec. 255 of the NIRC 1977.

What the ruling means to the general public is alarming because gagamitin na yan ng may mga tax evasion cases. Lalo na if pati sa SC tanggapin yan. Wala nang imprisonment, puro's compromiase na lang mangyayari kasi hindi inherently criminal daw eh.

Crimes that are have been classified as crimes involving moral turpitude include:
Murder
Rape
Robbery
Kidnapping
Voluntary manslaughter
Aggravated assault
Mayhem
Spousal abuse
Child abuse
Incest
Bigamy
Paternity fraud
Lewd acts on a child
Theft crimes
Robbery
Burglary
Arson
Prostitution
Pandering
Fraud
Driving under the influence without a license
Criminal threats
Failure to register as a *** offender
Felony hit and run
Perjury
Drug crimes
Receiving stolen property
Welfare fraud, and
Felon in possession of a firearm.

Sa list na yan, tax evasion is akin to theft and fraud. Gobyerno ang ninakawan at BIR ang niloko mo. Kahit ibalik mo ninakaw mo, may criminal liability ka na, hindi na mawawala yun, mitigating circumstnace lang yung pagbabalik, same with late payment. Kaya tax evasion is considered as a crime involving moral turpitude if you will ask most lawyers. Well at least sa mga kakilala ko na lawyers yan sinasabi ha.

[Mr. Witcher]

For sure corruption will not vanish even if it’s a Leni presidency. Anyone who thinks such is naive.

But there’s a difference between trying to get corruption from 100% to 95%, and leveling it up from 100% to 105%.

A businessman friend of mine did not vote for Vico in the last elections for Mayor. Mas gusto niya daw si Eusebio kasi alam na niya sino babayaran niya. Kay Vico daw baka dumaan pa sa tamang sistema mas maging hassle pa daw for them.


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Correct. Minsan madali magbayad direkta ke mayor kasya magbayad ka sa mga tauhan nya dahil lumalaki babayaran mo. We cannot eradicate corruption sa pinas nasa culture na ng mga taga gobyerno yan. [emoji22]

[jut703]

Correct. Minsan madali magbayad direkta ke mayor kasya magbayad ka sa mga tauhan nya dahil lumalaki babayaran mo. We cannot eradicate corruption sa pinas nasa culture na ng mga taga gobyerno yan. [emoji22]

While businessmen and the informal sector have the option to go the shady route and avoid/minimize taxes, employees like me automatically get 1/3 of our income deducted already.

I obviously prefer a world where corruption was lessened to some extent, because then I’d at least see my taxes put to good use.


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[Mr. Witcher]

While businessmen and the informal sector have the option to go the shady route and avoid/minimize taxes, employees like me automatically get 1/3 of our income deducted already.

I obviously prefer a world where corruption was lessened to some extent, because then I’d at least see my taxes put to good use.


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Honestly Leni is the best option for good governance pero madaming businessman masasagasaan yan. Pacquiao, ping at isko mga tipong makukuha sa pakiusap. BBM naman lalo dadami tax evader.. [emoji16][emoji16]

[glenn_duke]

Tinanggal naba yung subject na taxation sa college?

Ito pagkaka iintindi ko sa issue nayan.

Non filing of income tax return is illegal and penalize by fines, unless theres a sound reason for failing to file, fines maybe reduced. And its not a criminal offense.

If failure to file itr is deliberate, then the offence is akin to tax evation, a criminal offense penalize by fines and/or inprisonment and considered a crime of moral turpitude

The court of appeals decision convicts bbm only for failure to file itr and not for tax evation, and he was only penalized by fines. The decision doesn't also stipulate other penalties as perpetual disqualification from holding public office which is significant.

Mas mabigat na tax evation yung nag file ka nga ng itr on time pero di mo sinama sobra sa election contribution pati donation galing abroad. Di tulad ni Isko dineclare, nagbayad ng tax, tapos gagawing issue, parang pinalalabas na tanga siya at hindi niya tinago.

[RavenBlack]

What if the non-filing of ITR is for 3 years, can this still be considered not deliberate? There was even no definitive payment of the fine since the OR presented was for lease rentals.

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[Yatta]

Thats one way to look at it. Think long-term.

[glenn_duke]

What if the non-filing of ITR is for 3 years, can this still be considered not deliberate? There was even no definitive payment of the fine since the OR presented was for lease rentals.

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Obviously the CA is satisfied with bbm reasons why he failed to file his itr, hence the decision and penalty.

If penalties were not paid I guess thats civil contempt, the court can order sequestration of properties to pay for the penalties. But have anybody questioned this before? Nope!
So the standing verdict, bbm is only guilty of failure to file itr and fines, no inprisonment nor perpetual dq to hold public office.

[gearhead000]

Funny and witty as a meme.

Pero in reality... di naman nawala ang mga DDS trolls kahit nanalo na si Du30.
Kaya kahit manalo pa si BBM, tuloy pa rin ang troll wars kasi socmed won't stay quiet kapag lumabas na mga kapalpakan ng BBM admin.
Well, that goes both ways so still no end in sight sa mga fake news at trolling.

[Little Missy]

Ay sauce, naglapag na nga ng kopya ng court ruling. Pinababayaran yung tax dues, plus interest, plus fines. Hindi nagfile ng ITR kasi wala naman binayaran.

Hindi ako abogado pero mas maniniwala naman ako paliwanag ng retired Supreme Court Justice na may resibo.

Tax evader siya, period. Ang debatable dito kung grounds yun for cancellation / disqualification.

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