The Philippine Jeepney...

[jpdm]

Courtesy of Tsinoy from SSC

[aejhayl17]

Nope. What is more useful for a jeepney is it's extremely low ratio gearing which gives it lots of torque even with it's low HP engines.

And PUV jeepneys don't need massive HP. They don't even exceed 60kph.

so putting a turbo kit on jeepneys will not give it optimal hp and torque sir? low speed gears will be more of use than a turbo kit? thanks sir gh

[hilldweller]

Nope. What is more useful for a jeepney is it's extremely low ratio gearing which gives it lots of torque even with it's low HP engines.

And PUV jeepneys don't need massive HP. They don't even exceed 60kph.

Sir, 27 ang seating capacity including the driver ng karamihan ng mga dyip dito sa amin province-city & vice-versa ang route. Mitsubishi diesel ang makina with 4-speed manual transmission. At overload, kasi may nakasabit sa likod na anim including the konduktor kayang mag 110km/hr. Nasa likod ako ng driver seat when that happened, curious ako sa speed ng dyip that is why tiningnan ko talaga ang speedometer. One time kasi i'm cruising at 100 km/hr pero hindi ko maovertakan ang dyip na sinusundan ko.

[aejhayl17]

Sir, 27 ang seating capacity including the driver ng karamihan ng mga dyip dito sa amin province-city & vice-versa ang route. Mitsubishi diesel ang makina with 4-speed manual transmission. At overload, kasi may nakasabit sa likod na anim including the konduktor kayang mag 110km/hr. Nasa likod ako ng driver seat when that happened, curious ako sa speed ng dyip that is why tiningnan ko talaga ang speedometer. One time kasi i'm cruising at 100 km/hr pero hindi ko maovertakan ang dyip na sinusundan ko.

i think what sir gh is pointing out, are the jeepneys in MM hehe traffic kasi dito lage, and jeeps here dont usually need high speed trannies, they need more torque for better push and pull hehehe

[ghosthunter]

Given he didn't mention which jeepneys we are talking about, I just assumed the typical jeepneys in Metro Manila.

[niky]

Even loaded to the gills with an anemic diesel, a jeep should hit 100 km/h no problem (as long as the speedometer isn't lying... but consider the speedometer was made for a different vehicle that might have different wheel sizes, and thus, will most likely read incorrectly).

What Jeeps here need is an inexpensive high-capacity engine start-stop system. So that their engines are off when they stop, then turn on once they step on the gas. All it would need is a high-rpm starter and a higher voltage alternator (maybe from a truck?).

Since jeeps stop all the time, and wait to pick up passengers, even though they turn off their engines at terminals, they still see fuel economy between 2-4 km/l.

[ghosthunter]

Even loaded to the gills with an anemic diesel, a jeep should hit 100 km/h no problem (as long as the speedometer isn't lying... but consider the speedometer was made for a different vehicle that might have different wheel sizes, and thus, will most likely read incorrectly).

What Jeeps here need is an inexpensive high-capacity engine start-stop system. So that their engines are off when they stop, then turn on once they step on the gas. All it would need is a high-rpm starter and a higher voltage alternator (maybe from a truck?).

Since jeeps stop all the time, and wait to pick up passengers, even though they turn off their engines at terminals, they still see fuel economy between 2-4 km/l.

What Niky is trying to say is to make a thinly disguised electric-diesel hybrid jeepney.

Of course, it will not be a true hybrid since it will not carry enough batteries to run more than a few minutes on "battery" mode. What the electric motor do is to start the diesel engine and assist the vehicle on it's initial acceleration from the dead stop. Regenerative braking and the motor acting in generator mode would help keep the batteries charged in a jeepney's typical short stop-go cycle.

[JJCarEnthusiast]

jeepneys won't need much speed naman so i think a turbocharger is overkill. yes torque is what it needs for the low speed atras abante. changing the gearing would be more economical and useful. imagine jeeps with turbo chargers eeks nagkakarerahan na nga na n/a pa, e kung turbo pa, baka akala ng drivers na sing bilis na nila yung f1 cars

[yellowjip]

ive seen more than 1 jeep here in batangas that have turbo charger some are 4BD1 turbo and ive seen one with 4HJ1 turbo..jeeps here in batangas are different than in manila makers here take more pride in there work kaya medyo mahal jeep dito sa amin..Mtutulin ang mga jeep gawa dito sa batangas at walang kalampag...Magaganda ang mga jeep ng mga taga mabini batangas mga nagiitaly puro stainless tlga jeep nila tapos palakihan sila ng makina..parang libangan lang sakinla eh..

[roberto_minosa]

Are there jeepneys with power steering? Or small turning radius? That would be a bazillion times better than what jeepneys are in Manila.

[pewski]

actually mga sir...ang mga jeep nami dito sa Cagayan de Oro have Isuzu eagle for their engines....for a jeep around 2tons plus passenger weight of not going over 1.5tons....that power under the hood is overkill....jeep here can run around 100-110..... yung iba diskbrake ang front....care of canter surplus parts from japan......and yes sir...power steering na ang mga bagong labas na jeep dito....as a prof nga eh they put yung parang sa forklift na handle para madaling makaliko....one hand pagliko the other hand pag shift ng gears.....

yan ang mga jeep sa city....


when it comes to provincial routes...especially yung papuntang bukidnon....you will find there jeeps with 6d15-6d18 for there engines... and around 30 seating capacity....and a full airbrake system.....kaso lang they are not embellish for the looks....para sa kanila, mass maraming sakay, mass malaki ang kita.....

[aejhayl17]

Are there jeepneys with power steering? Or small turning radius? That would be a bazillion times better than what jeepneys are in Manila.

we have power-steering equip jeepneys here in malabon, ill take a picture when i visit at cousins' house.

[jpdm]

The King of the Road of Iloilo: The Passads

Courtesy of lewsaint of SSC 09/20/09

[jpdm]

Cebu jeepneys


Osmena Road, Cebu

They are here to stay

[ghosthunter]

They are here to stay

Prime examples why the Filipino is not progressing.

[jpdm]

Prime examples why the Filipino is not progressing.

IMHO, correction.

Its more like, its just a prime example why the Pinoy native auto industry only is not progressing and not the Filipino per se.

[ghosthunter]

IMHO, correction.

Its more like, its just a prime example why the Pinoy native auto industry only is not progressing and not the Filipino per se.

Nope, it is the Filipino. Just compare our (lack of) development compared to our asian neighbors like Indonesia and Thailand.

[jpdm]

Nope, it is the Filipino. Just compare our (lack of) development compared to our asian neighbors like Indonesia and Thailand.

The Filipino or the Philippines?In what area?

Anyway, you have a point here.

Any suggestions to improve the situation?

[ghosthunter]

The Filipino or the Philippines?

Anyway, you have a point here.

The Filipino. The "pinoy" way of thinking is all and good when dealing with people but it is also so short sighted. We quickly forget the lessons learned by our grand parents and parents. This would include all facets of our lives including family, politics, business/economics, transport, social development, etc.

[jpdm]

The Filipino. The "pinoy" way of thinking is all and good when dealing with people but it is also so short sighted. We quickly forget the lessons learned by our grand parents and parents. This would include all facets of our lives including family, politics, business/economics, transport, social development, etc.

Yes, probably.

So, may I humbly ask if you have solutions in your mind to improve our situation? Say our family, business and economics, transport and social development...