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    #201
    no matter what they drive, nasa disiplina lang yan. maskina bigyan pa sila ng grand starex pero kung sakay/baba sa gitna ng kalsada useless

    dapat fix sweldo ng jeepney drivers para wala ng antayan mapuno

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    #202
    Quote Originally Posted by armscor40 View Post
    my proposal is to replace w/ a smaller one but w/ new engine and high ground clearance...efficient in all aspects of operation, i believe...

    SUZUKI BRAVO MUTLICAB w/ aircon pa...for those plying Metro Manila roads, to minimize the use of limited space lalo na sa main roads...

    then sa province na lang yun mga KC2700 or Hyundai Porter, at least sure tayo sa safety and reliability ng mga manufacturers...
    Diba LWB Multicab yung ginagamit dun sa Macapagal area? There are some Porter's and Delica's too. Based on my observation, the Multicab drivers are a lot more civil than their jeepney counterparts. Probably partly also because they really cannot move that fast with the heavy load and puny engine. Kung Multicab with aircon pa baka mamaya eh hindi na uusad yan.

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    #203
    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    Diba LWB Multicab yung ginagamit dun sa Macapagal area? There are some Porter's and Delica's too. Based on my observation, the Multicab drivers are a lot more civil than their jeepney counterparts. Probably partly also because they really cannot move that fast with the heavy load and puny engine. Kung Multicab with aircon pa baka mamaya eh hindi na uusad yan.
    that way accident could be avoided dahil sa bagal nila (but not that slow naman sir) anyway transport vehicle naman ito...if i'm not mistaken meron brand new unit w/ aircon pa ang suzuki and capable of hauling not only passengers but cargo as well otherwise hindi na nila iaadvertise na highly efficient and practical multi-purpose vehicle ito

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    #204
    mga katsikot ask ko lang sana anung brand or manufacturer yun pamasadang jeep yun medyo my modern design mukang magaan kasi un harap ng jeep my dalawang butas na malaki sa tapat ng radiator taz my 'W' na tatak ? anung manufacturer po kaya ito? balak po sana namin bili ng jeep

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    #205
    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    Diba LWB Multicab yung ginagamit dun sa Macapagal area? There are some Porter's and Delica's too. Based on my observation, the Multicab drivers are a lot more civil than their jeepney counterparts. Probably partly also because they really cannot move that fast with the heavy load and puny engine. Kung Multicab with aircon pa baka mamaya eh hindi na uusad yan.
    It's also scary to drive this thing really fast (if ever possible) as it won't feel as solid as a jeepney. Give them drivers something more vulnerable and they will think twice about trying to cut lanes and counter-flowing.

    The jeepney is an anachronism that needs to go.

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    #206
    I'm just asking, since hindi naman totally ma-phase out ang jeepney sa metro manila and the MMDA and local government wants to modernized and standardized the jeepney. Bakit di nila encourage mga jeepney operators and jeepney manufacturers to used those Mitsu L300 running chassis as a basis platform for modern jeepney??.....standard dimensions, decent safety design, since jeepney's average speed is only 30kph, at least it has been design by a car company with engineered suspension, steering, braking system...and certainly not a gas guzzler.....maybe a third world standard design but at least better than those backyard jeepney produce with no safety system. Kung saan saan junk yard lang kinuha mga parts...I think L300 cab & chassis cost about P530k siguro mas mura kung engine and chassis lang then they can build the body just like what they did to the e-jeepney........I'm sure they thought about this already... I'm just wondering what's the reason.....they don't want to go this route??......

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    #207
    Quote Originally Posted by ZURC01 View Post
    I'm just asking, since hindi naman totally ma-phase out ang jeepney sa metro manila and the MMDA and local government wants to modernized and standardized the jeepney. Bakit di nila encourage mga jeepney operators and jeepney manufacturers to used those Mitsu L300 running chassis as a basis platform for modern jeepney??.....standard dimensions, decent safety design, since jeepney's average speed is only 30kph, at least it has been design by a car company with engineered suspension, steering, braking system...and certainly not a gas guzzler.....maybe a third world standard design but at least better than those backyard jeepney produce with no safety system. Kung saan saan junk yard lang kinuha mga parts...I think L300 cab & chassis cost about P530k siguro mas mura kung engine and chassis lang then they can build the body just like what they did to the e-jeepney........I'm sure they thought about this already... I'm just wondering what's the reason.....they don't want to go this route??......
    You aren't the first (nor would you be the last) to propose using the L300 (or similar low cost FB style vehicle) as a jeepney replacement.

    Unfortunately jeepney operators are just as ancient in their ways as their vehicle of choice. Most would still prefer the tried and tested jeepney over any other option. You can see the advantages of the jeepney. They are built like a tank (accidents only leaves scratches, not dents in the body work), spare-parts are available everywhere. Simple to build and operate. Simple to fix with the most basic of tools (or even with just a rubber band and a rock). Cheap as chips to operate and maintain. Only expensive bit is the fuel.

    The e-jeepney is not even making a "dent" in the PUJ field. It might be getting a lot of news but where is it? Its only operated on limited routes by whom? ... It is usually by the e-jeepney company or by the government. It is not by the jeepney operators because they know it will not be able to do the same job as a regular PUJ. The ejeep is unsafe and expensive to operate in the medium to long term.

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    #209
    ^^^^

    bwahahahaha

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    #210
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    lumaki ang improvement ng future philippine jeepney. nawala na yung spare tire sa driver side

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    #211
    sa tingin ko mas ok pa yun sinaunang jeep base sa picture wala ng driver side door at mas makinis pa yun itsura nun una

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    #212
    Sa tingin ko talagang mas matino pa yung sinaunang jeepney circa 1950's kasi kahit papaano, yung pang ilalim nya gawa ng Ford, and Willys. Pinadaan sa mga proving ground bago na mass-produced, yung mga gawa ngayon di mo alam kung ano mangyayari. Napansin ko ni hindi maka u-turn dun sa may buendia papuntang macapagal!!.....sobrang haba tapos maliit yung turning diameter.....lalo akong natrapik!!...hehe

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    Yung jeepney 2087 parang sa Iloilo yan na model. I think early year 2000's ganyan na ang jeepney sa kanila.

    So we'll expect 'more' high-tech in 2087

    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post

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    #214
    Quote Originally Posted by awing View Post
    Yung jeepney 2087 parang sa Iloilo yan na model. I think early year 2000's ganyan na ang jeepney sa kanila.

    So we'll expect 'more' high-tech in 2087
    Jeepney's should be replaced, it should be given just 10years and everything should be phased out.. our commuters deserve better than these(jeepneys) piece of junk roaming around manila.

    Cebu has better, they have Elfs designed to carry people, they also have multicab for short distances.

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    #215
    d2 sa isabela van na ang ipinalit sa mga jeepney wala nga lang aircon
    sa mga baryo nalang ginagamit ung mga jeepney

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    #216
    how about si Sec. Mar Roxas, ano ang vision nya sa future ng mga jeepneys?

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    The closest to a modern version of the jeepney I can recall is the AUV. Other than that, a van would be the cheapest option if a jeepney phaseout was intended and taken seriously.

    Quote Originally Posted by kitsons View Post
    our former associates in an automotive shop we almost started to build AUV's way back in the early 90's have been manufacturing chassis of different makes, evangelista's elf's (the small and large), fx's with practically alll makes of which they have the technical configurations and knew what engines and power chains can be specific types of chassis.

    Not sure now though if these configuration can be modified for electric power systems or perhaps the electric power systems design can be adjusted to the chassis configuration.
    It's not so hard to adapt an electric drive system into a currently-available frame. Considering the usage of hub-motors, it would leave space between the frame rails to assemble battery packs in a position which would protect'em more from side impacts and enhance the vehicle's stability due to the centralized weight. Even if a single electric motor would be bolted to a differential, either directly or thru a driveshaft, it can be done in a way it wouldn't require too much space.
    Last edited by cripple_rooster; September 1st, 2012 at 04:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    Taken from: Fiberglass : Environmental & Occupational Disease Epidemiology : NYC DOHMH



    Overlooking health issues, the fiberglass body will increase the efficiency of the jeepney by reducing it's weight BUT it still overlooks the issue that the jeepney itself is a dinosaur that needs to be replaced or (in the very least) re-invented with a better solution.
    Fiberglass takes a lot of energy and mineral resources to be manufactured, while some vegetable fibers can be used as an alternative. Coconut fiber, cotton, and even hemp could be a viable replacement to fiberglass.

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    #220
    Quote Originally Posted by cripple_rooster View Post
    The closest to a modern version of the jeepney I can recall is the AUV. Other than that, a van would be the cheapest option if a jeepney phaseout was intended and taken seriously.

    It's not so hard to adapt an electric drive system into a currently-available frame. Considering the usage of hub-motors, it would leave space between the frame rails to assemble battery packs in a position which would protect'em more from side impacts and enhance the vehicle's stability due to the centralized weight. Even if a single electric motor would be bolted to a differential, either directly or thru a driveshaft, it can be done in a way it wouldn't require too much space.
    True. It is not hard to DIY an electric drive system to any vehicle. But giving it practical range and keeping costs down are the difficult parts. Deep cycle batteries are expensive, costing around P9,000 each. To have practical range in a heavily laden vehicle, you'll probably want ten or more of those batteries onboard. Then figure out how you can make money when the life-cycle of the batteries is only at 500 cycles. This does not yet include the cost of recharging all those batteries at least once a day nor the cost of the expensive power controller that is essential to any electric car.

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