"e-Jeepney" - The electric powered jeepney

[uls]

hehehe

gotta understand romski

people like Binay, Hagedorn help promote his electric vehicles

he owes them bigtime

[aejhayl17]

Inggat mo nek-nek mo. What kind of pathetic empty threat is that.

Binay is a piece of BROWN TRAPO SH*T, plain and simple.

Stop kissing their Smelly Butts, romski.

kala ko ba bawal na insultuhan dito?

back to b-jeep guys.

anung gimik ni Vnay nung inauguration? is he promoting or what?

[ghosthunter]

anung gimik ni Vnay nung inauguration? is he promoting or what?

Binay is trying to get media mileage by using the e-jeepney as a platform for his gimmick with his "initial' attached to it.

B-jeep indeed...

It is pretty much an old trick used by current and past city mayors in metro manila.

[uls]

being green is in

pogi points yan

being identified with the ejeepney is a great way for politicians to project the green image

but they'll never give up their V8 SUVs

[ghosthunter]

[KCMenteryo]

Maybe TMC should approach VP Binay and sell their Prius to him! atleast medyo green yun...

Or... PHuV Inc. should design Ecar for VP Binay!?

Baka maunahan sila ng BYD Electric cars...

[romski123]

kala ko ba bawal na insultuhan dito?

back to b-jeep guys.

anung gimik ni Vnay nung inauguration? is he promoting or what?

wag nalang pansinin ang andywest na yan. Childish banter, sayang lang ang pagod natin.

Binay is promoting the eJeepney because he is one of the champions of this inititiative.

[ghosthunter]

wag nalang pansinin ang andywest na yan. Childish banter, sayang lang ang pagod natin.

Binay is promoting the eJeepney because he is one of the champions of this inititiative.

Binay is a "trapo".

Is that how low your standards of a "champion"?

[romski123]

Binay is a "trapo".

Is that how low your standards of a "champion"?

gh no matter what you say the Filipino people voted for him as our Vice President.

If you talk to Makati residents they are happy. Seniors get free movies and they have the best health care in the country.

He was forward thinking enough to support the eJeepney initiative. Champion yan.

Its so easy to label anybody as Trapo. You can call all the Filipino Politicians trapo, but we should take a look at the ones who produce results.

[andywesteast]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C33Ehp21EA"]YouTube- Jejomar Binay Lumalabag sa Batas Trapiko (Nagdadahilan pa!)[/ame]

Yah, BINAY...Champion of HYPOCRISY.

Look at his Gas Guzzling V8 cars violating the laws of our land.

Your standards are so LOOOOOOOOW., romski.

[romski123]

[SIZE=1]http://www.malaya.com.ph/07062010/auto2.html[/SIZE]

Malaya Business Insight
July 6, 2010
By Irma Isip

e-Jeepney Makati green route
The e-Jeepney’s Makati green route (MGR) project is among the first successful mass transport use of the electric vehicle (EV) in Asia, according to Rommel Juan, vice president of the Motor Vehicle Parts Manufacturers Association (MVPMAP) which is one of the proponents of the Philippine utility vehicle (PhUV) that built the e-Jeepney’s body.
Juan said in the recent EV Asia Conference in Hong Kong, MVPMAP discovered that while other Asian countries were still on the drawing board stage, the Philippines already had the MGR going.
Juan said EV Asia Conference organizers have requested that a technical paper on the eJeepney experience in the Philippines be presented during next year’s conference.
The success of the MGR has encouraged the Makati City government to establish a third loop, the Heritage Route. Plans are afoot to redevelop some old landmarks in the old Makati Poblacion to bring back the ambiance of its glory days. Included in the plan is a reduction in the air pollution from vehicles in these areas. The eJeepney is the obvious solution. The Heritage Route will start and end at Estrella corner EDSA and pass through J.P. Rizal, the Makati City Hall, the old poblacion and the Rockwell area.
MGR is one of the biggest pilot tests of EV application. Twelve eJeepneys are plying two developmental routes in the Makati Central Business District: the Salcedo Village and the Legazpi Village routes. Both loops start and end at the Landmark area along Makati avenue.
Although the ride is free, the MGR operates during daytime only when passenger volumes are the heaviest.
The eJeepney took a part of history when Vice President Jejomar Binay rode on one during his inaugural rites.
The eJeepney was introduced almost two years ago as the product of what initially were two separate efforts of two separate NGOs. The Institute for Climate and Sustainable Cities (iCSC) was then working on propagating its Climate Friendly Cities (CFC) Program, while the MVPMAP has just launched its locally-assembled AUV, the PhUV.
The eJeepney, the first locally-assembled EV to be actually put on the road. It was also the first EV to ever be granted the newly-minted orange license plate by the Land Transportation Office under a new category, Low-Speed Vehicle (LSV).
The Ejeepney has either a 5 kw/72 volts or 7 kw/84 volts electric motor. It is a full EV powered by deep cycle, lead acid storage batteries from Motolite.
It can be charged overnight on an ordinary wall outlet from 8 to 10 hours then run the next day for 65 kms at a top speed of 35 kms per hour.
The e-Jeepney was first pilot-tested in the Puerto Princesa CFC Program. Fleets of eJeepneys were soon running the streets of schools with large campuses, resorts, industrial zones, commercial establishments, farms, theme parks and residential subdivisions.

[ghosthunter]

gh no matter what you say the Filipino people voted for him as our Vice President.

...And many of those who voted are already regretting they did vote for him.

As for getting voted, so did Tito Sotto and Lito Lapid. I guess idol mo din sila.

And the same goes for ex-president Arroyo? Idol mo din siya since she was voted by the same filipino people who later couldn't get rid of her soon enough.

Its so easy to label anybody as Trapo. You can call all the Filipino Politicians trapo, but we should take a look at the ones who produce results.

mistresses, shadow deals, under the table real estate "co-ventures"... just to name a few.

[ghosthunter]

He was forward thinking enough to support the eJeepney initiative. Champion yan.

"support" in what way? ... he didn't even spend a single centavo of his own money. All he did was spend other people's money to make his name to sound better.

Like I said, if you want to be a green advocate, do not be a hypocrite.

How can you support "green" initiatives when you ride around in a gasoline fuel guzzling luxury SUV that gets only 2 km/L in city driving?

[kitsons]

"support" in what way? ... he didn't even spend a single centavo of his own money. All he did was spend other people's money to make his name to sound better.

Like I said, if you want to be a green advocate, do not be a hypocrite.

How can you support "green" initiatives when you ride around in a gasoline fuel guzzling luxury SUV that gets only 2 km/L in city driving?

[SIZE=4]Peep peep,

hope lang politics dito. What we need are technical inputs and approach to having e-vehicles on the road. If you noticed in the news clipping, the e-jeep was first piloted in Puerto Princesa and the proponent was CFC.

Binay rode on the idea for his political use... and that's the fact as he is again using it since he's got nothing better to do than tweedle his thumb as VP.

He got voted into office as the mean average IQ of the Filipino population up to Generation x was moronic 65% of a hundred and only moved up to an almost pasang awa of 74% with the present studentry... so whadya expect?

No use though talking politics, the inane societal situation in which RP is embroiled is not within the scop of what we are suppose to discuss here. Non-productive discussions of politice and personalities who ride on new technologies for their personal gain ought to be left in the closet.

Why not just talk on the merits and demerits of the E-jeeps and not talk about opportunists riding on the spectacular.

For all intent and purposes, the only way the E-jeepney got going in Makati, whether it was a Binay project or whoever Tom, Dick and Harry are the proponents is the fact thatg the E-jeepneys uses free electricity from the Makati dump. Sans that freebie, the e-vehicle is a luxury that is definitely unaffordable to maintain at the present rate Meralco bills its clients.

This is not to mention that the fast deterioration of commercially sold starting batteries would need change of batteries perhaps even every six months considering the threads of lead used in such batteries are so thin that they easily break and the lead goes into either solution or a precipitate that cannot attach itself once more to the threaded plates kaya ang tawag sa condition na ito'y ang baterya ay sira na at kailangan palitan.

Finding solutions of how to come up with the sturdier deep cells and/or cheaper batteries using other metals perhaps would be more constructive.
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[ghosthunter]

*kitsons

Why not also look at the e-jeepney as a business venture and ask them how many units they have sold in since they started?

This would give you an idea if the e-jeepney would even be viable in the long run or simply opting for directly importing golf carts would be a better idea.



It would be interesting to note that SM MOA used to have electric carts to shuttle people around the SM MOA complex but later shifted to petrol powered units later. Must be reasons there somewhere which would probably be the limited range the carts can drive around per charge and the long amount of time required to get the batteries to full charge.

[uls]

more advanced batteries (like lithium ion) = higher cost





that would put the ejeepney in the over-P1,000,000 price range

[summerellie]

How much are e-jeeps now? We have a couple in Congress. They're quite alright, though a little cramped.

Last time I checked they're 650k each. Too expensive.

Here's a link to my blog re-posting the article that said so:
E-jeepneys in Congress

[ghosthunter]

How much are e-jeeps now? We have a couple in Congress. They're quite alright, though a little cramped.

Last time I checked they're 650k each. Too expensive.

Here's a link to my blog re-posting the article that said so:
E-jeepneys in Congress

Hello Tine.

As for the last credible information from the e-jeepney advocates would post in tsikot.com, the P650,000 price tag per ejeep unit is accurate.

The problem is not monopolized technology. It is simply the cost of the vehicle itself.

One major component is the battery pack. And its not even high-tech lithium ion batteries. Just plain old and heavy lead acid batteries. Of course, those batteries aren't the ones found in your car, the ejeep uses deepcycle batteries, a more expensive type of lead acid batteries generally used for golf carts, power back up systems, etc.

You can back read this thread. You can even find a purchase and operational cost comparison between the ejeepney and a regular jeepney. And that comparison shows no real cost advantage for operating an ejeepney.

There is even a major problem to be overcome which is the limited range of the batteries and the long amount of time required to recharge them. A downtime of at least 8 hours.

[romski123]

How much are e-jeeps now? We have a couple in Congress. They're quite alright, though a little cramped.

Last time I checked they're 650k each. Too expensive.

Here's a link to my blog re-posting the article that said so:
E-jeepneys in Congress

hi tine,

nice to read your blog. Thanks for sharing.

Ikaw? Happy ka naman sa ejeepney diba? No fumes, no noise, and helps your slippers to stay fresh and new!

Don't listen to the "wanna be" experts here in tsikot.

you are much more of an expert and a more credible resource person since you have actually ridden one.

Ghosthunter is always on the lookout for something bad to say about them. Sad really since all the information he relies on is whatever he googles in front of his computer. (naarawan kaya sya?)

Don't believe his battery horror stories. As he has read them as well. All theory, no practice.

visit this website: http://www.ejeepney.org/ to learn more about the ejeepney inititative.

and watch this:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwzw6o6xgtM&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube- Philippines' dirty jeepneys starting to turn green[/ame]

[romski123]

[SIZE=2]http://www.ejeepney.org/content/globalization-environmental-competence[/SIZE]

The globalization of environmental competence

From the pen of leading business and financial analyst Dean de la Paz, a great take on recent events and the potential of the Philippines to take a sustainable energy-driven pathway because of new leadership. Read on...
The globalization of environmental competence
by Dean de la Paz / Through the Looking Glass
BusinessMirror, 08 July 2010
It started out with our leadership in geothermal technologies where Philippine steam fields, their development as critical sources of inexpensive energy and their competent operation and management are prominently world-class. Where we lag in other 21st-century technologies, in this sector of environmental engineering, the Philippines establishes the bar others strive to equal.
There is a misconception that energy development endangers the environment, agriculture and forestry, each critical in an economy such as ours. The same is echoed for the transport sector that depends on carbon-burning energy. Fortunately, the misconceptions are untrue.
As undeniable counterarguments, the records set by the Philippine National Oil Co.-Energy Development Corp. (PNOC-EDC) debunk such where its business model extends from the corporate to rural and communal levels. A 100-percent privatized corporation with over 30 years of proven viability, the company pioneered in social forestry, where forest-dwellers are empowered to preserve critical watersheds that constantly charge and recharge geothermal steam fields.
In a discussion I had with PNOC-EDC chief executive officer Paul A. Aquino, he emphasized that the company’s distinctive competences were founded on its engineers and professionals who, despite a perennial shortage of funds, heroically established our prominence on the global stage of environmental expertise.
We, however, note that the uniquely Filipino symbiotic coupling among corporations and the community it serves is not confined to such grand and capital-intensive endeavors. While PNOC-EDC’s return on assets is 4.4 percent, nearly quadrupled from when it had been a government enterprise, financial and social returns can even be greater where alternative grassroots and smaller business projects are viable and sustainable.
In this, the correct path is ironically exemplified by the country’s most urbanized community and quite recently by policy pronouncements by Vice President Jejomar Binay.
The global community witnessed two eloquent and impressive examples of the kind of environmental leadership the Philippines can provide. Virtually globalizing our environmental initiatives, before two critical audiences Binay has virtually taken us to the world stage and there proudly displayed what we can achieve.
The first is a festive statement for sustainable and environment-friendly transport. The “B-Jeep” Binay proudly rode at the presidential inaugural, with its mobile murals designed by celebrated artist Abdulmari “Toym” Imao Jr. takes the cliché  jeepney, a product of Filipino ingenuity, to the 21st century, where Filipino folk culture, art, ingenuity and environmentalism combine in an initiative both exportable and itself an eloquent icon of what Filipinos represent.
That Binay is himself iconic of modern local-government competence is not lost in the profound message of the B-Jeep. Pioneered in the Philippines’ foremost global business center, the vehicle is being adopted by various local communities nationwide, thus spreading the governance initiatives nurtured in Makati and transplanting Makati’s modernity across the islands following an appropriately branded enterprise entitled “Biyaheng Filipinas”.
Reiterating his theme of people being the center of economic progress, in a more direct manner, Vice President Binay, likewise, established those initiatives when, before the Asian Development Bank’s (ADB) Asia Clean Energy Forum in June, he spoke of the Philippines’ imperative to go green as critical to its economic development.
Binay correctly pointed out that because our economy is agriculture-based, where that sector remains a principal source of livelihood, wayward stewardship of the ecosystem can have lethal and deleterious
effects.
For the Vice President, it is imperative that economic programs, from the rationalization of taxes to infrastructure development, each nourish the ecosystem. Declaring both paradigm and policy, under the Aquino-Binay administration, Binay stressed that environmental consciousness is not simply a luxurious adjunct of economic programs but is an integral component of development.
As the new administration’s first and probably its most profound international policy statement to date, the Binay declaration before the ADB bodes well for a country that seeks not simply accountability for past wrongs but is also ready to lead the global community in doing the right thing through distinctive competences it can bank on.
Emphasizing that “it is people that make the economy work,” Binay said that “to attract investments in sustainable development, [government and business constituencies] must share the vision of green entrepreneurs, inspire managers with inspired green governance, and invest in social and environmental programs to invest workers with good health, education and a healthy ecology.”
Far from sound bites and political rhetoric, under Binay in Makati, progress, civil rights, social protection and environmental awareness were prioritized, not as privileges of a well-governed community, but as rights of the people of Makati. From the B-Jeep to Makati’s green-procurement processes, energy-efficient street-lighting and “green loop” waste management, again the theme of people-centered development is evident.
At the ADB, the Vice President has shown the world what Filipinos can achieve. Evidently, he is one elected official who knows where he is going. It is time we hop on his jeep. #