"e-Jeepney" - The electric powered jeepney

[fourtheboys96]

Palagay ko naman ay masusi ring pinag-aralan yan e-jeepney. Maaring nga lang na may kakulangan sya at tama lang na punahin yun.

Pero palagay ko ay simula ang e-jeepney. Sabi ko nga hindi perpekto pero isang magandang simula. Lalo kung kasama dito ay ang pgpapatupad at implementasyon ng batas tulad ng RE law.

Keysa naman sa walang siimulan at hayaan yng mga mausok na patok jeepney na bwisit sa kalye at lansangan.

Duda ako kung talagang may pag-aaral na ginawa ang mga nag-implement ng e-jeepney.

Kung meron man, sana ay mailabas ang dokumento at masuri ng mabuti kung ang perang gagamitin dito ay sulit. Kung sa pag-aaral nila ay nakonsider ba yung mga isyu tulad ng: saan i-charge ang baterya, gaano ang lifespan nito at kung paano at saan ito i-dispose pag hindi na magagamit.

Ang kinatatakot ko ay ang mga pulitiko na nsa likod nito ay hindi mulat sa environmental concerns na kaakibat ng sinasabing "green vehicles".

[uls]

Just mentioning:

ghost buster = April Boy = jpdm

hahaha

sobra obvious

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that out-of-touch-with-reality guy should really get his hands on an ejeepney so he can find out for himself why no jeepney operator is crazy enough to replace diesel jeepneys with those "green" vehicles

[uls]

jpdm:

Nakita ko yung plano (ng e-jeepney proponents) kaya meron naman. Kaya lang mabagal ang investments sa "green power" para sa e-jeepney.

haha

sad no?

kasi yung mga may pera pang invest hindi dyan mag-i-invest (magbukas nalang ng Mang Inasal)

yun naman gusto mag invest dyan walang pang invest (yung sinasabing Marikina group... yeah right)

Di ko rin alam kung paano nga yung pag-dispose ng baterya.

masusi pinag aralan diba?

Pero sabi ko nga may potensyal ang e-jeepney kasi may RE law kaya kung matutuloy ang mga "planned investments sa RE " isang malaking tulong ito sa mga proponents ng e-jeepney at lumawak ang paggamit nito.

just coz there's a law doesnt mean money will follow

capital will be allocated to places where there are large potential returns

if there's large potential returns sa pag invest sa ejeepneys, matagal na sana bumibili ng ejeepney ang mga PUJ operator

Uulitin ko, panahon na para i-retiro yung mga pangit, bulok at mausok na jeepney lalo sa Metro Manila. Lalo lang nakakadagdag sa kapangitan ng Maynila lalo na yung mga patok jeepney sa amin na simbolo ng kawalan ng kaunlaran ng industriya ng sasakyan sa Pinas.

akala ko ba proud na proud ka sa Jeepney?

pinoy creation yan

may threads ka pa ginawa in honor of Sarao and other jeepney builders

[romski123]

hey ghosthunter. if you can't take the criticism don't post here wag ka pikon boy.

[romski123]

*Romski

Aren't you starting to become what you are complaining about? Just another heckler in the cheap seats?

I am not doing it because I prefer to make my money elsewhere. I am not going to push a product using "green" excuses as it's credentials when it is plainly not.

The idea is there for anyone (including yourself) to grab and turn it into reality.

Previous (government sponsored) attempts of doing LPG-Jeepneys have failed because those were converting existing jeepneys to run on LPG. Previous efforts also suffered from the usual PGMA regime financing corruption which cut the number of jeepneys that were supposed to be converted.

The difference here is it will use an engine already meant to run on LPG from the start.

All the Auto-LPG refueling stations are available in the metro.

It wouldn't be far off to use an affordable Suzuki Multicab shuttle with an engine converted to LPG as a testbed for a more wider adaptation.

The general success of LPG-fueled taxi cabs is an indicator that LPG is a possible way for public transport to save money on fuel as well as go a bit greener.

who's in the cheap seats? We have already implemened the ejeepney program boy.

while you remain behind your computer bickering.

read this post boys and girls kasi buburahin na naman ni Overlord ghosthunter ito.....

[fourtheboys96]

hey ghosthunter. if you can't take the criticism don't post here wag ka pikon boy.

criticisms and insults are two different things.

[ghosthunter]

who's in the cheap seats? We have already implemened the ejeepney program boy.

And as of today, all of the e-jeepneys you have sold are incomplete "green" solutions.

"Implemented"? Why? Do you consider your ejeeps as complete products (finished products) as they are now?

Where are the bio-gas power stations to recharge the e-jeepneys?

Where are the solutions to dispose or recycle worn out batteries?

What is your solution to expensive deep cycle batteries?

I think most of these are the same questions and criticism I have been airing from the start, yet you have FAILED to give any proper solid answers to them.

[fourtheboys96]

ok guys, to give a proper perspective on electric vehicles for public transportation, I'll be more than happy to share this video (embedded ion the page)

http://japan.betterplace.com/the-com...1-2ceb72dcb5c8

A guy from this company will be giving us a lecture about their project in Tokyo.

This is Japan. And considering their very advanced technologies, they are just starting to pilot test electric taxis. Maybe because they want all support infrastructures to be put up first. Or they planned this out carefully.

Another write-up about the company:

http://www.sustainability.com/blog/b...ury-enterprise

[ghosthunter]

A guy from this company will be giving us a lecture about their project in Tokyo.

This is Japan. And considering their very advanced technologies, they are just starting to pilot test electric taxis. Maybe because they want all support infrastructures to be put up first. Or they planned this out carefully.

And that is a good point. PLANNED carefully.

So where are the carefully laid plans for the so-called "green" e-jeepney?

None.

Why? ... probably because the e-jeepney wasn't as planned as the people behind this would like it to be known.

[uls]

ok guys, to give a proper perspective on electric vehicles for public transportation, I'll be more than happy to share this video (embedded ion the page)

http://japan.betterplace.com/the-com...1-2ceb72dcb5c8

A guy from this company will be giving us a lecture about their project in Tokyo.

This is Japan. And considering their very advanced technologies, they are just starting to pilot test electric taxis. Maybe because they want all support infrastructures to be put up first. Or they planned this out carefully.

Another write-up about the company:

http://www.sustainability.com/blog/b...ury-enterprise

the ejeepney people have been bragging that the Phils. is first in Asia to put electric shuttles on the road

know why the Phils. is first?

coz in a developing country (wild wild west)*, you can build a stretched golf cart and drive it on public roads

*we allow pedicabs, kuligligs, tricycles, backyard assembled vehicles (jeepneys, OTJs, etc) on public roads. Is it any wonder why the Phils. is first to have electric shuttles on public roads?

in developed countries, they have very strict regulations, they can't just go "hey, let's stretch a few electric golf carts and use 'em as shuttles"

they gotta plan things, study things, which takes time

who's that guy who keeps saying "masusi pinag aralan"?

yeah right

more like "ituloy na natin ito... bahala na"

[romski123]

And as of today, all of the e-jeepneys you have sold are incomplete "green" solutions.

"Implemented"? Why? Do you consider your ejeeps as complete products (finished products) as they are now?

Where are the bio-gas power stations to recharge the e-jeepneys?

Where are the solutions to dispose or recycle worn out batteries?

What is your solution to expensive deep cycle batteries?

I think most of these are the same questions and criticism I have been airing from the start, yet you have FAILED to give any proper solid answers to them.

uy hindi ako binura

just watch out for our expansion boy. watch and learn

[fourtheboys96]

uy hindi ako binura

just watch out for our expansion boy. watch and learn

hey, I personally have no problems with your plans. Just don't disguise it as something "green" or environment-friendly because right now, it is not.

[ghost buster]

Just mentioning:

ghost buster = April Boy = jpdm

hahaha

sobra obvious

--

that out-of-touch-with-reality guy should really get his hands on an ejeepney so he can find out for himself why no jeepney operator is crazy enough to replace diesel jeepneys with those "green" vehicles

Ayos lang naman na panghinalaan nyo ako pero ikaw uls may kasama pang panlalait. Ano ba atraso ko sa iyo pare? Ano bang gusto mong magyari?Napakakulit nyo. kung bayaw nyo e-jeepney ok lang. pero hwag isama sa panlalait yung may gusto, personal kang tumira, tao ka.

Para kayong sirang plaka mga pare.

Ulitin ko check nyo email ko. Ikaw uls o marg or ghiosthunter kung sino ka man kung gusto mo email o pm mo ako para magkaliwanagan tayo. Puro ka daldal pare pareho at paulit ulit lang sinasabi mo.


Sumagot kayo ng diretso sa isyu at hindi puro panghihinala kayo.

[uls]

Ayos lang naman na panghinalaan nyo ako pero ikaw uls may kasama pang panlalait. Ano ba atraso ko sa iyo pare? Ano bang gusto mong magyari?Napakakulit nyo. kung bayaw nyo e-jeepney ok lang. pero hwag isama sa panlalait yung may gusto, personal kang tumira, tao ka.

Para kayong sirang plaka mga pare.

Ulitin ko check nyo email ko. Ikaw uls o marg or ghiosthunter kung sino ka man kung gusto mo email o pm mo ako para magkaliwanagan tayo. Puro ka daldal pare pareho at paulit ulit lang sinasabi mo.


Sumagot kayo ng diretso sa isyu at hindi puro panghihinala kayo.

sino makulit?

dati mo pa sinasabi i-check ang email mo

ikaw ang makulit

kahit sino pwede may multiple email accounts na pwede gamitin for multiple usernames

checking your email proves nothing

the more you post, the more you sound like jpdm

anyway, how's your plan going?

may capital na ba?

[April Boy]

Just mentioning:

ghost buster = April Boy = jpdm

Strange....after being suspected as jpdm now Im ghost buster...

Anyway, the people behind the e-jeepney should take the criticisms here positively.

[uls]

haha

to sound like 2 different people, g.buster posts in tagalog, a.boy posts in english

[April Boy]

haha

to sound like 2 different people, g.buster posts in tagalog, a.boy posts in english

Hmmm..looks like a very bad theory from you...

[aejhayl17]

haha

to sound like 2 different people, g.buster posts in tagalog, a.boy posts in english

a gimik...

[April Boy]

a gimik...

from uls...

[April Boy]

ok guys, to give a proper perspective on electric vehicles for public transportation, I'll be more than happy to share this video (embedded ion the page)

http://japan.betterplace.com/the-com...1-2ceb72dcb5c8

A guy from this company will be giving us a lecture about their project in Tokyo.

This is Japan. And considering their very advanced technologies, they are just starting to pilot test electric taxis. Maybe because they want all support infrastructures to be put up first. Or they planned this out carefully.

Another write-up about the company:

http://www.sustainability.com/blog/b...ury-enterprise

Another electric vehicle project in France:

France unveils 14 point plan for electric cars

The green car race is not restricted to vehicle manufacturers desperate to steal a march on their rivals – it’s also apparent that some of the leading nations are battling to be the first to have infrastructure in place for the electrification of the automobile.
France is the latest country to throw its name into the hat with its minister for ecology, energy, sustainable development and the sea, Jean Louis Borloo, presenting a national 14-point plan to accelerate the development and commercialisation of electric cars and plug-in hybrids.
The Government hopes to have two million electric and plug-in vehicles on its roads by 2020. So how will this be achieved? Here’s a step-by-step look at the 14-point plan:
Point one: The French Environment and Energy Management Agency (ADEME) will launch a call for projects on infrastructure costs to support plug-in demonstrators and trials and to validate an ecosystem of rechargeable vehicles. For this stage of the plan, which will begin in early 2010, €70million has been dedicated.
Point two: Also early in 2010, ADEME will establish mobility solutions looking at developments in transportation based on new technology and service – this has a budget of €25million.
Point three: Renault will establish a lithium-ion battery factory in Flins that will produce 100,000 batteries a year – the investment here will be €625million.
Point four: A group of companies including La Poste, EPA, Air France, EDF Energy, France Telecom and more, will commit to buying electric vehicles with a range of at least 150km. It is hoped to have 100,000 vehicles by 2015.
Point five: There will be a €5,000 grant to buy vehicles with CO2 emissions less than or equal to 60g/km until 2012. Hybrids, LPG or natural gas vehicles with emissions less than or equal to 135g/km may also benefit from a €2,000 bonus.
Point six: Establishment of standard outlets to charge cars outside homes.
Point seven: Construction of buildings with compulsory charging systems by 2012.
Point eight: Support for installation of charging systems in condominiums.
Point nine: Compulsory charging points in parking for office buildings by 2015.
Point 10: An agreement on common European charging standards.
Point 11: Support for municipalities to deploy public recharging infrastructure.
Point 12: €1.5billion for the deployment of a public infrastructure network.
Point 13: To maximise the use of renewable electricity for recharging vehicles.
Point 14: Find ways to give batteries and materials a second life through recycling or other forms of reuse.


http://www.thegreencarwebsite.co.uk/...electric-cars/