"e-Jeepney" - The electric powered jeepney

**niky** · March 2nd, 2012 01:04 PM

Producer/Operator. Cut out a whole crapload of middlemen. Works out that way, but it would still have to be cash-positive by the end of the battery's life, otherwise it's money wasted.

**uls** · March 2nd, 2012 02:16 PM

^^
yep. even if they buy batteries at wholesale price it's not gonna be cheap

so just to break-even the ejeepneys have to earn enough to pay drivers' salaries, electric bills (recharging), cost of replacing batteries, aside from stuff that wear out like tires, etc

**uls** · March 2nd, 2012 02:30 PM

the TUCP is too optimistic

malayo pa ang salary basis for PUJ drivers

isolated case ang ejeepney operator

manufacturer sila eh

di naman katulad ni Mang Lando na may tatlong jeepney na may linya cubao stop-n-shop... boundary system... di niya kaya magpasweldo ng driver

**ghosthunter** · March 2nd, 2012 02:31 PM

It is just frustrating with the e-jeepney getting praises from so many groups and individuals that they all fail to realize that batteries (a major cost component) wear out & needs replacing on a regular basis in the operational life of the e-jeepney.

**ghosthunter** · March 2nd, 2012 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by uls

the TUCP is too optimistic

malayo pa ang salary basis for PUJ drivers

isolated case ang ejeepney operator

manufacturer sila eh

di naman yan katulad ni Mang Lando na may tatlong jeepney na may linya cubao stop-n-shop

Lets just wait and when all this folds on itself we can all shout "we told you so!"

**uls** · March 2nd, 2012 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by ghosthunter

It is just frustrating with the e-jeepney getting praises from so many groups and individuals that they all fail to realize that batteries (a major cost component) wear out & needs replacing on a regular basis in the operational life of the e-jeepney.

it's like when you buy a new cellphone you don't think about the battery wearing out... matagal pa yan eh

you don't hear media people asking "how long will the battery last? how much does it cost to replace? do the savings you get from not buying diesel enough to pay for a new battery?"

the media naturally focuses on the immediate benefits -- zero emission, environment-friendly. media pa... dami environmentalist sa media. sa politicians naman green is popular

**niky** · March 2nd, 2012 03:20 PM

Well, cellphones aren't often used as long as cars, the load is much smaller, and a cellphone battery costs... what? A few thousand pesos?

Properly cared for, batteries shouldn't be an issue, as long as they set aside contingency money on a per kilometer basis (say, about 1-2 pesos per kilometer) for eventual pack replacement.

But then, most operators are used to marginal financial planning. Don't think about the cost of repairs till you have to do them. Which is where the one-time-big-time hit of over 100,000 pesos per pack will hit them once the batteries wear out.

**Monseratto** · March 2nd, 2012 03:32 PM

Most probably the batteries are old-tech lead base not so green...Looking at the E-Jeep, parang backyard production siya. Long term parts and services remains to be seen.

**uls** · March 2nd, 2012 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by niky

Well, cellphones aren't often used as long as cars, the load is much smaller, and a cellphone battery costs... what? A few thousand pesos?

it's the thinking

when people buy anything rechargeable, they don't think about replacing the battery. it's only when madalas na na-lo-low-batt... doon na magtatanong magkano ang bagong battery

Properly cared for, batteries shouldn't be an issue, as long as they set aside contingency money on a per kilometer basis (say, about 1-2 pesos per kilometer) for eventual pack replacement.

sana ganyan. set aside a fund to buy a new battery

But then, most operators are used to marginal financial planning. Don't think about the cost of repairs till you have to do them. Which is where the one-time-big-time hit of over 100,000 pesos per pack will hit them once the batteries wear out.

pag may extra money punta sa beerhouse

emergency fund? what emergency fund?

bahala na si batman

**uls** · March 2nd, 2012 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by Monseratto

Most probably the batteries are old-tech lead base not so green...Looking at the E-Jeep, parang backyard production siya. Long term parts and services remains to be seen.

definitely lead acid yan

at the price of the ejeepney, definitely not lithium-ion

if it was lithium-ion the ejeepney would cost far over a million pesos each