Honda Jazz CVT Problems

[pajerokid]

Hi Peeps,

My friend bought a second hand Jazz 1.3 CVT. Everything was going a-ok for around 6 months, then all of a sudden, ang hina humatak ng Jazz. The engine revs okay but when shifted to D puro rev and ang hina ng hatak.

Definitely a tranny problem.

Anyhow, the car was brought to honda, and is still being diagnosed. The frickin tranny was quoted at 300 thousand bucks. Deym. Funny thing is, until now (a week na ata) they still have no idea what's wrong with it!

Anyone have an idea what's wrong or have experienced the same problem?

Is there anyone outside of honda who can help fix this?

I havent heard of anyone overhauling a CVT just yet. My personal theory is that the belt inside needs to be replaced.

Any input appreciated. Thanks!

[istan]

Whow! 300k? A jazz costs how much???
If manual ang jazz...mga 400k lng dapat sya...Hmm...Grabe pricing.
But then 6 months lng yun car, u might get them to replace the tranny for free.

Btw, I don't think its the belt, else your car won't move. Because of slippage or break. Might be the tranny is stuck in a position where there's weaker torque. ie. 4th (manual mode) <- gets ba?

[mbeige]

The CVT is known to have a recall from Honda. If it hasn't been done yet you should mention it to them so that it will be repaired under the recall (free).

Have a 2nd opinion as well at another dealer.

[baludoy]

^i think i that saw that bit of news in the cnn scroll thingy but sadly i wasn't able to hear out the details. honda and mitsubishi ata iyong nag-issue ng recall in japan(?)

iyan pala ang sakit ng cvt tranny. our 2 year old jazz is ok so far but i do dread the day when its tranny would need a major maintenance repair down the road. dami din ata kasi itong electronic components kaya mabigat. ito yata down side talaga ng modern a/t trannies in general

[Mguy]

I have a CVT Jazz for 2 year, at ok naman sya.

The recall was just to replace the ATF fluid. Mali daw ang nalagay sa factory when they build those Jazz in Thailand. They'll change it for free.

Try to do a CVT reset. I know it was posted here before. Ever tried the 7 speed mode? Ganoon pa ba rin?

[mbeige]

When our Jazz is at an incline it still rolls backwards slightly. Dapat mag lock siya di ba?

[Autobeat]

Anyhow, the car was brought to honda, and is still being diagnosed. The frickin tranny was quoted at 300 thousand bucks.

Grabe taga naman niyan.

If CVT related nga ang sira, then mukhang may improvements pa needed sa CVT designs.

[pajerokid]

Grabe this is so laughable it's not even funny.

Honda Philippines, according to Honda Libis, only imports WHOLE trannys! And not tranny parts!

WAT DA PAK!!!

So anything mechanical that goes wrong will entail replacement of the WHOLE transmission!!! Ay tinapay!!!

[jmj74]

I have my 18 month old 1.5 CVT, so far so good wala pang problem
he must try / or have second opininon in other casas or checked with the Honda Guru's

[CVT]

When our Jazz is at an incline it still rolls backwards slightly. Dapat mag lock siya di ba?

Our almost 3 year old Jazz 1.3L CVT is okay so far.

OT: ours also rolls backwards. It is probably because of the infinite gear ratio of the CVT tranny.

3404:surfing:

[mbeige]

Are you serious? I always thought the CVT also had a lock mechanism to prevent it from rolling backwards. I thought that was a sign that something was wrong...

[CVT]

Are you serious? I always thought the CVT also had a lock mechanism to prevent it from rolling backwards. I thought that was a sign that something was wrong...

I am bro. Our way out of the office is inclined. So, I experience it everyday....

Am not sure though if my understanding explains it....

3404:surfing:

[impulzz]

my bro-in-law's 98 crv also a matic, but not cvt also slides back even when you leave it in D, noticed it when i was stuck in traffic at the shaw flyover. but my sister's 99 crv doesn't roll back.

[istan]

Lancers also roll back. So I guess it's ok.

[BlueBimmer]

sakit sa ulo pala yang CVT kung magkaroon ng problems in the future...patay sa repair costs..buti nalang invecs2 lang itong sa outie ehehe

[istan]

Yes, that's very true. Hay!!! No parts available, so you have to pay like more than a 2nd hand car to make your car go again.

[kinyo]

Incompetence ... local Honda mechanics apparently are not trained to repair the CVT, they are simply told to replace the CVT whenever they encounter problems with it. I am not a mechanic, but a CVT is supposedly a simpler mechanical device than a conventional A/T because it has lesser mechanical parts. If only a smart mechanic is given the chance to rip apart the CVT, it would be easy for him to figure out how it works and repair it at minimal cost. But ... err ... if the mechanic is that smart, he'd probablty be appointed service manager in no time.

For the rollback on an incline, some cars do and some don't, and depend on the grade of the incline (which could explain the difference even on the same car model).

A P300k quote is more of greed than real service quality concern. We got rid of our 2 honda cars and it will be a long time before we acquire a honda again. I'm still a honda fan but the local dealership totally sucks! I'd rather setlle with a Hyundai, sounds like Honda anyway, but way more economical.

[speedyfix]

we should be able to source the cvt tranny for you if you want.

have them replace the atf with cvt compatible atf muna though before ordering the whole tranny.

[mbeige]

I'm surprised at several cars having automatic transmissions that do not lock when on an incline. Yung cars namin sa US they all have AT's and all lock pag nasa incline even the '92 Corolla. Kahit yung incline is shallow the Jazz still rolls back just slightly enough to make others think it's a manual.

Then when I stab the pedal mahina ang downshift compared to last year (when I was also here in Manila). It takes longer for it to downshift and accelerate. Before kasi, kaunting downshift lang (just prodding the pedal, not really stepping hard on it) will make it downshift kaagad, another prod will make another downshift, until I reach the desired acceleration. Ngayon I have to stab the pedal siguro mga two or three times. Do you guys experience the same thing with your Jazz CVT? Is this only for the Jazz? Did the City have CVT transmission as option?

[pajerokid]

*speedyfix,

sir I'm gonna have the unit checked in your shop one of these days. right now kasi its still in honda libis. I think honda already replaced the atf but to no avail.

engot talaga honda, the cvt has a stop clutch, does this mean they never plan to replace this?