Honda Jazz CVT Problems

[mazdamazda]

PK... that's bad news bro... sabi na nga ba... when sh*t starts happening to the CVT expect them (casa) to only respond by replacing the whole unit.

My theory also is that the metal belt inside the CVT might be slipping (although they claim that the metal belt will not slip) or that the pulleys might be damaged.

[Horsepower]

Ang mahal pala masiraan nyan. Paano pa kaya yung DSG tranny.

[niky]

DSG is different... it's more like a traditional robotic manual, with clutches... so if the clutch wears out, that's all you have to replace.

The quote from Honda? Bull-sh*t. No way does that transmission cost half the price of the car. You could get a brand new engine and a transmission for that much!

[mazdamazda]

Hehehe... 300K for the tranny... when you can have a brand new 2.0L engine for the Rav4 for "only" 400K.

[valskie01]

nakupo! plano ko pa naman bumili ng 2nd hand na jazz cvt. buti nalang nabasa ko itong thread na ito. isip isip muna ako.

[niky]

Still, this is a rare thing... even the turbocharged guys at GDUnited are still on their original pulleys... something's not right there.

BTW, 6 months with the current owner... but how old is the car itself?

Interesting thread... PK, you might want to post it here:
http://www.jazzcityunited.org/viewtopic.php?t=2301

[augustus]

It is the same for Nissan. CVT aren't being repaired but are replaced. They also cannot be rebuilt by 3rd party shops except for the manufacturer.
The cost of a CVT replacement for a Nissan Murano here is about 5,000USD.
Based on what I have read on other forums, the failure rate is the same as conventional trannys. The problem is that they aren't field repairable.
Another thing, the problems exhibited by the CVT's seems to be electronic in nature and doesn't seem to stem from the belt or pulleys.

[badkuk]

worst case, pwede kaya ipalit na lang ng manual tranny?

[pajerokid]

Still, this is a rare thing... even the turbocharged guys at GDUnited are still on their original pulleys... something's not right there.

BTW, 6 months with the current owner... but how old is the car itself?

Interesting thread... PK, you might want to post it here:
http://www.jazzcityunited.org/viewtopic.php?t=2301

Hi Niky, the car itself is an 04 as far as i can recall.

thanks for the endorsement, i'll post the problem there as soon as i get all the details.

It's kinda expected naman to pay a premium in terms of maintenance for being an early adopter of new technology. Pero had Honda advertised that the tranny cannot be maintained part by part, then i would have advised my friend against getting the jazz.

It's so stupid, this policy of importing whole trannys instead of its parts.

Imagine to have to replace your precious B16A if a timing belt snapped!

[pajerokid]

It is the same for Nissan. CVT aren't being repaired but are replaced. They also cannot be rebuilt by 3rd party shops except for the manufacturer.
The cost of a CVT replacement for a Nissan Murano here is about 5,000USD.
Based on what I have read on other forums, the failure rate is the same as conventional trannys. The problem is that they aren't field repairable.
Another thing, the problems exhibited by the CVT's seems to be electronic in nature and doesn't seem to stem from the belt or pulleys.

I do hope it's electronic. if string pulling in honda doesnt work, i might as well try doing the cvt reset procedure and cross my fingers. ;)

[pajerokid]

worst case, pwede kaya ipalit na lang ng manual tranny?

Yes sir, this is possible, but conversion to manual transmission will entail the replacement of a lot of ancilliary parts... sabi ng honda lalagpas pa daw ng 300k.

Grabe, hope you City/Jazz peeps dont go through this headache. The car was acquired for around 470k.....3/5ths pala nung cost ay tranny.

[pajerokid]

PK... that's bad news bro... sabi na nga ba... when sh*t starts happening to the CVT expect them (casa) to only respond by replacing the whole unit.

My theory also is that the metal belt inside the CVT might be slipping (although they claim that the metal belt will not slip) or that the pulleys might be damaged.

haaay pare, problema di sila nagdadala ng parts.... i'm never gonna endorse a cvt trannied car ever again kung ganito policy nila. i mean, pucha, you cant even overhaul the damn thing!?

[artpogi]

how about replacing it na lang with a conventional A/T tranny (not CVT)? wouldn't that cost much cheaper?

[pajerokid]

the car has less than 45k kms on the clock by the way.

[badkuk]

meron na kayang CVT transmission sa mga surplusan? how about sa ibang bansa?

[RafRaf]

Why haven't they tried the CVT reset?

[niky]

A surplus CVT? It's possible if you can get a Japanese front-cut... which would cost much less than 300k.

[afrasay]

Teka, tanung lang, diba dapat di mag roll ang auto tranny (D) on inclines, say sa bridge or driveway ng garage. Parang na defeat yun purpose kung bakit fav ng mga ladies ang auto tranny dahil no need to make "timpla" the gas and clutch in a manual tranny. Napansin ko ito when i drove the altis of my friend and was about to park it sa garage nila. nag slid down nun binitawan ko yun gas...gosh!!! hirap timplahin.

[niky]

Nope. Some ATs will roll back on slopes.

It all depends on how much power the car makes, and at what rpm the torque converter locks up. Until the torque converter is locked (usually at 2500 rpm or more), an AT car can be pushed backwards in gear if it has very little power and you just let it idle.

The Jazz has no torque converter, but I'm sure there's a feature there that acts like one when it's idling at a stop.

[alwayz_yummy]

hehehe..buti pa pala ang matic, kahit mahal, may repair/overhaul kit...or your can easily opt for a surplus..

hope ma solve to..i'll be lurking...(gusto ko pa naman din an jazz 1.5CVT or yung delica D:5 4wd cvt)