ATF Replacement

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Just would like to share the pictures I took yesterday of the filter screen in my '98 starex auto tranny. It's the second time I did this, the first was over 4 yrs. ago. Compared to the first pan drop, there's no friction material on the screen but alot of iron fillings (no big chunks) attracted to the two small square magnets on the pan, some on the screen and a brownish red atf drained. This time I only used about 7 liters of new atf.

First pic below is the pan (w/ cork gasket intact) with the filter screen's underside (atf pump suction side) shown, next pic is the screen's topside that mates with the valve body (last pic w/ gasket intact) held by 6 pcs. 8mm bolts. Again, no gaskets where replaced.

hi sir... when you dropped the pan, did you reseal it using the orange silicon gasket? or the old rubber gasket is enough and just tighten the bolts accordingly?

[Jayo]

hi sir... when you dropped the pan, did you reseal it using the orange silicon gasket? or the old rubber gasket is enough and just tighten the bolts accordingly?

No gaskets were replaced, no sealant was used. Both pan and screen gaskets were reused for the second time. Also, silicon sealant is not advised since it may clog the screen if used on the pan gasket or may find its way to the pump and valves if used on the screen gasket. All bolts were tightened using a nut driver, 10mm pan bolts and 8mm screen bolts.

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No gaskets were replaced, no sealant was used. Both pan and screen gaskets were reused for the second time. Also, silicon sealant is not advised since it may clog the screen if used on the pan gasket or may find its way to the pump and valves if used on the screen gasket. All bolts were tightened using a nut driver, 10mm pan bolts and 8mm screen bolts.

thanks sir... very informative....

[Boy Torotot]

My answer to your questions:

1. we use Transtech by Motorvac kase when changing ATF. please refer na lang sa sa webpage about the equipment.

check this webpage:
http://www.mancor.com.ph/prod_atfsc_transtech.html

P900 ang labor. and then the fluid we use is texamatic 200/L. you can bring your own fluid, pero sobrahan nyo ng 2-3 liters from the capacity. usually pag matagal hinde nagpalit ng ATF, kahit palitan mo nng bago iba pa ren yung kulay. hinde namen nire-release yung car pag ganun kase delikado yun. naghalo yung old at new ATF.

2. this is our address in Fairview: Lot 30 and 31 Fairview Ave. Fairview Park, Quezon City. WE ARE BESIDE BPI, infront of BDO. Lagpas ng konti sa Fairview Wet Market

Oh, and another thing: the promo in our website IS ONLY for AUTOTECHNIKA FORT. Just to make things clear. Magugulat yung service manager namen pag tinanong nyo sha about that.

IN Autotechnika Fairview, you can ask for Ernie.
IN Autotechnika Fort Bonifacio, ask for Joven.
They are our service managers.

I hope I cleared everything up.

Cheers.

Sir, ano po yong "the promo in our website IS ONLY for AUTOTECHNIKA FORT", di ko yata napansin sa website. Available pa ba ito sa FORT branch nyo?

[MadoX]

Sir, ano po yong "the promo in our website IS ONLY for AUTOTECHNIKA FORT", di ko yata napansin sa website. Available pa ba ito sa FORT branch nyo?

www.autotechnika.com under PROMO

till end of this month lang kaya punta na hehehe.

[Boy Torotot]

Thanks MadoX! But it was more like http://autotechnika.com.ph/


The FREE 21-POINT DIAGNOSTIC CHECK UP looks nice, though I'm more interested with the ATF replacement thru transtech.

[drifto]

sa fronte motorparts sa banaue meron, bro. they call it atf "dialysis". just forgot how much the service (atf included) costs.

yep tama ka broo.. sa fronte mas ok mag pa change atf.. sa trooper ko about 4,500.00 lahat na...

[MadoX]

Thanks MadoX! But it was more like http://autotechnika.com.ph/


The FREE 21-POINT DIAGNOSTIC CHECK UP looks nice, though I'm more interested with the ATF replacement thru transtech.

ops sorry bout the missing .ph on the link

I'll tell you more about my transtech experience when I get it done tomorrow (saturday)

[MadoX]

Hey guys,

came back from autotechnika FORT this morning. As I've said before here is my experience.

I came around 8:15 am and as usual asked the guard for a SA. The SA that came out was Percy. He immidiately took the car in the service bay and started to jack it up in 5 mins. (FYI, I scheduled this visit. So you might not get the same treatment if you went there and the service area is full) Then SA Joven came out and told the technician to use 24 liters. At this point I was kinda shocked that they would use 24 liters (more on this later). It took them 5 minutes to find the right connections where to place the TRANSTECH machine. They attched the unit to my car battery, started the engine, turned on the machine and placed my car into D and started the process of cleaning the ATF off my car.

At first glance you can really see the thick gunk (a.k.a. old ATF) come out of the car. It looked liked used motor oil. . But after about 6 liters the fluid started clearing up. And by the time it used 16 liters I think what clean ATF that was going in was going out as well, hence my system is clean. I noticed that new ATF is really liquidy in nature, not like that think stuff that initially came out so all in all I'm satisfied.

The whole process took only an hour and it seemed done correctly. Now I noticed that my car seems to change gears faster especially from 2nd to 3rd gear. I don't think I'm imagining it, I'll know for sure tomorrow, when I use my car again.

What I think about the experience of today:

1. Transtech is a brand of the machine that flushes out old ATF and brings in new ATF to your trasmission. Some people in other pages think that this is a process of changing the ATF. So remeber guys Transtech is a brand, ATF flush is the process. Just like Xerox is a brand and photocopying is the process (just to clarrify things, kasi pati ako nahilo eh )

2. You can't know how much ATF you'll need for ATF flushing, but based on my experience, I feel I kinda wasted 8 liters of ATF since they opened the whole case and I didn't stop them from doing so. At 200 a bottle I feel I wasted 1,600 php. Dont get me wrong, I don't regret it. So what should you do? well, my car is a 97' civic. Based on my estimates, you need six liters to flush old ATF, 4 liters for cleaning and 5 more liters for allowance and what's going to be left in the transmission. A total of 15 liters. I paid 5,700 for the atf flush on my car that used 24 liters.

I FEEL YOU CAN ALWAYS ADD MORE ATF TO THE TRANSTECH MACHINE IF YOU FEEL THE ATF COMING OUT IS STILL DIRTY, YOU BASICALLY OPEN A NEW BOTTLE AND ADD IT TO THE TRANSTECH MACHINE ATF RESERVIOR.

3. torque, you should consider giving the FREE 21 point to all your clients who gets repairs. It only took them around 10 minutes to check my car and I they basically just did a visual check on it.

4. don't get intimidated by the class design of autotechnika guys, the shop looks and feels great. It's really clean. only 1 bmw was there today, most of the shop had regular cars getting worked done. hehe..

[userfriendly]

Pls recommend ng good brand of atf, dexron 3.

[speedyfix]

motul or redline for full syn dextron 3's and castrol for regular.

[userfriendly]

What is the benefit of using full-synth atf vs regular mineral atf?

[MadoX]

ful syn lasts longer and reduces the form of deposits. but for regular city driving and non fast and the furious driving regular should do it.

[torque2006]

sirs, the dexron II, dexron III, mercon, and mercon V are trademarks by respective auto companies (FORD & GM i think). These are all types of ATF classified by viscosity. All auto companies recommend different grades of oil to reach optimum transmission performance. We have to understand that our automatic transmission systems' temperature can reach up to 105 C. High temperature speeds up oil degradation, that's why ATF has one of the highest viscosities on motor oils.

It's similar to different engine oil grades.

Dexron III is supposed to last until 100,000 kms.

Mercon and Mercon V are almost the same viscosity as Dexron III

ADHP - F is the "regular" one.

Dexron II is one notch higher than AHDP - F.

There are also multi-vehicle ATF available in the market.

Full Synthetic ATF is lasts longer than mineral ATF.

***Usually Dexron III can be used for dexron II rated vehicles.

***And conventional atf replacement can only change up to 60% of your tranny oil/ATF. A lot of ATf is stuck in the torque converter, and the gunk inside too

Sirs the promo stated on the website has been changed: it's now 76 point.

[warp]

San ok bumuli ng ATF (syn or regular)?

Thanks!

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Just would like to share the pictures I took yesterday of the filter screen in my '98 starex auto tranny. It's the second time I did this, the first was over 4 yrs. ago. Compared to the first pan drop, there's no friction material on the screen but alot of iron fillings (no big chunks) attracted to the two small square magnets on the pan, some on the screen and a brownish red atf drained. This time I only used about 7 liters of new atf.

First pic below is the pan (w/ cork gasket intact) with the filter screen's underside (atf pump suction side) shown, next pic is the screen's topside that mates with the valve body (last pic w/ gasket intact) held by 6 pcs. 8mm bolts. Again, no gaskets where replaced.

i crawled down under to look for the atf drain pan. at first looks pretty simple to disassemble. however there is a long tube that extends to the engine bay. this is where the dipstick is plugged. this tube goes down into the pan. but somewhere in the middle of this tube, there is a cut that somehow is just held by a black silicon gasket to keep the atf from leaking. but i dont think that atf will reach that cut on normal operating temperature. mataas naman sya i suppose. if i remove the pan, do i have to loosen the tube all the way up? or should i just disconnect it starting from the cut?

[alwayz_yummy]

pag bababa mo yung pan, mahihila mo yan, just make sure na ok pa yun o-ring in that tube. may cork gasket yan available, lalo na kung local-released car.

[Jayo]

....do i have to loosen the tube all the way up? or should i just disconnect it starting from the cut?

No need, once you've loosen/taken off all the pan bolts the tube will separate at this "cut" you're referring to. "Alwayz_yummy" is right, there's an O-ring rubber gasket just clean it if not damaged.

[alwayz_yummy]

just remember na to replace the cork gasket between the pan and wher itis bolted. kasi kung silicone maker lang, may chances pa magleak(kasi talagang un-even ung surface nun...)

for a leak-free job, cork gasket then pahiran mo ng shellac/silicone gasket maker tsaka palang mo ikabit(usually #10 lang yan, kaya ingat sa pag higpit lalo na kung ratchet ang gamit mo. di pwedeng kulang sa bolts ha!

ung filter inside, may paper gasket din yon, pwede nang ung silicone gasket maker, usually #8 box or ratchet lang pwede mong gamitin. linilinis lang yong ng gaas kung walang butas/rip.

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thank you sirs.... probably i'll diy the atf change and filter cleaning this summer...