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    #21
    pardon the ignorance, ano difference ng underbone sa scooter?

    sorry po kasi sa akin parang "if it's smaller than a motorcyle, i call it a scooter"

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    #22
    Quote Originally Posted by baludoy
    ^600cc scoots? i think thats too much for me

    bro boeing: totoo bang mas sirain ang underbone kapag marami ng modifications?
    Bro baludoy,ganon din naman pag scoot na madami modifications

    so by and large safe mag motor ng dyes oras ng gabi. wala namang masydong himala nangyayari? especially sa mga pauwi galing night shift?
    depende din cguro sa place mo brod ..mahirap mag pagabi ang dali pa naman agawin ng mga MC .ako kahit mejo malayo ,basta doon ako dadaan sa mga madami tao or mga sasakyan pa din

    Quote Originally Posted by mazdamazda
    just curious... ano bang "modifications" na useful ang pwede gawin sa underbone?
    i've seen a lot of underbones that are lowered... neon lights... fart mufflers... narrower handle bars... etc...
    ang iba kasi nag palaki ng engine displacement ,open ang pipe (dagdag lakas sa gaso nga lang)change ng clutch spring (pang racing ang Gusto).
    PnP (port n polish).palit ng air filter(simota type),may nag palit pa ng oil sa fork para mas malambot daw...ipapatabas ang upuan at palit seat cover.palit din ng mags ,duck tail.(jaform lang) change horn and relay (eto gusto ko ito)

    IMO lang tingin ko mas mahalaga doon ay dagdag ilaw or neon lights .para mas visible sa lang gabi...ang iba modifications puro pamporma lang at dagdag consumo sa gasolina lang

    pero kung ako may bago na UB ..stay in stock ko na lang .

    yun sa pinsan ko all stock ..
    parang sarap pa gamitin at pati tunog







    di pa butas ang bulsa

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    #23
    ano ba ang underbone? ito ba yung mga honda xtrm or wave?

    ang scooter ba = moped?
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    #24
    Quote Originally Posted by boybi
    ano ba ang underbone? ito ba yung mga honda xtrm or wave?
    Underbone:
    Honda XRM ,Wave,
    Suzuki Raider150/125, Shogun Pro/125, Raider Jr.
    Lifan Saturn ,
    Yamaha X-1
    Kawasaki Leostar,Aura



    Scooters:

    Kymco Top boy
    Jog
    Dink
    Bigboy Sinski
    Granstar diamond
    Yamaha Mio
    Sym Joyride

    Quote Originally Posted by boybi
    ang scooter ba = moped?
    ang Moped ata ang Underbone

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    #25
    Quote Originally Posted by baludoy
    isa pang tanong mga katoto, masmabigat ang motor/scoot, totoo bang mas safe?
    not really... its like taming a beast kasi. pag mabigat ang bike mo mahihirapan ka pag slow pace ang andar ng mga sasakyan lalo na pag di ka pa sanay sa hand clutch (for bigbikes) baka madisgrasya ka pa. kung high speeds, mas stable ang heavier bikes kasi nga mas malalapad ang gulong at mas mabigat ang bike, yun nga lang mas mahaba rin ang stopping distance nito compared to lighter bikes.

    wala naman problema tong mga factors na to kung experienced rider ka na pero kung ikaw eh sanay ng di bumabalanse eh better get a starter bike. a more powerful bike might get you killed if you cant handle the power.

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    #26
    ^what's an example of a starter bike?

    i've ridden several scoots and underbone bikes already but i plan to enroll in a riding academy so that i can avoid any unnecessary ill advised or wrong riding practices when and if i decide to push through getting a bike. i read somewhere that there's a riding academy in sucat ( honda ata 'to) and in the fort and they testified thet these riding academies were pretty helpful to newbie riders

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    #27
    Sa akin get a 2nd hand big bike. Mga 250-400cc puwede na. Wala pa nga din ako nakikita na big bike na involve sa aksidente.

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    #28
    lagyan mo na din ng "air brakes" kuno.. kssssssssssss.... ksss. kssssssss...


    pero meron talaga sa iba na totoong air brakes ang nakalagay.. yun nga lang mas madami ang ksssssssssssss.....


    Quote Originally Posted by Josh0027
    Sa akin get a 2nd hand big bike. Mga 250-400cc puwede na. Wala pa nga din ako nakikita na big bike na involve sa aksidente.
    well siguro kasi mas talamak ang mga Underbone/Scoots.. puro pa mga walang safety gear at kulang sa experience ang gumagamit (bata, teens, babae, manang).. karamihan pa walang license.. whereas yun mga naka BigBikes malamang may prior experience na sa maliliit ika nga e starter bikes.. its very hard to use a bigbike.. meron kami Ninja Type pero di ko magamit kasi ang bigat baka sumemplang lang ako.. maka disgrasiya pa ng iba..
    Last edited by Marc MD; July 13th, 2006 at 02:59 PM.

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    #29
    Quote Originally Posted by baludoy
    yung safety issues medyo doon ako kabado. aside from the danger your fellow motorists present, i'm thinking more of the criminal elements around you during the "alanganin" time of the night/morning.

    I haven't been in one but if you have the opportunity I'd recommend you to take a motorcycle riders' course. Drive and Ride safe! :D

    isa pang tanong mga katoto, masmabigat ang motor/scoot, totoo bang mas safe?
    may taga MCP ba dito? wala lang hehe, I've read the term cager, anyway, here's my two cents, considering safety, IMHO, as a rider your safety depends on you part ng pagmomotor ang panghuhula ng magiging kilos ng ibang mga sasakyan,totoo na mahirap na makita ang isang motor kapag nasa loob ka ng kotse, so kailangan araw man o gabi bukas ang head light mo. And ride as if you are invisible to other road users so kailangan mo magpapansin to prevent bike crashes kasi ang usual na reason niyan is "di kasi kita nakita eh". Do not run more than you can, run at a speed dictated by common sense. Sabi nga, masarap magmotor pero papatayin ka niyan pag nahaluan ng kayabangan, I've experienced that during my "pasaway" days but not anymore. When I had a crash and thinking about the whole situation, it's from there I've learned that my safety depends on me as a rider 80 per cent on me and 20 per cent on other road users. Concerning the bike's weight, actually as far as I know the weight is not that big of a safety consideration. Having a beefy bike will make it more difficult to maneuver in emergency situations unlike a lighter bike while a lighter bike is rumored to be susceptible to side drafts. However based on the experiences of other motorcycle riders as read both heavy and light bikes are affected by side drafts be that be a full faired sportbike, half faired hooligan , underbone or a scooter. Having that said,the bike's lateral area IMO is of greater safety consideration than it's weight for a heavy full faired motorbike is may be more susceptible to side drafts than a mid sized half-faired or unfaired mid size bike.

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    #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Marc MD
    well siguro kasi mas talamak ang mga Underbone/Scoots.. puro pa mga walang safety gear at kulang sa experience ang gumagamit (bata, teens, babae, manang).. karamihan pa walang license.. whereas yun mga naka BigBikes malamang may prior experience na sa maliliit ika nga e starter bikes.. its very hard to use a bigbike.. meron kami Ninja Type pero di ko magamit kasi ang bigat baka sumemplang lang ako.. maka disgrasiya pa ng iba..
    while there are also a number of big bikers who have learned motorcycle riding on big bikes. Plus the number of undisciplined big bike riders is miniscule compared to the pasaways on either scooter or underbones a very likely reason why the disciplined scooterists and underboners are forgotten and the pasaway scooterists and underboners have became evident while undisciplined bigbikers are going unnoticed. So to make it short, the pasaway population of a certain motorcycle classification group is proportion to the general population of that motorcycle group so since mas maraming locally made underbones and scooters mas obvious ang pasaway smallbikers than pasaway big bikers.

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underbone or scooter?