underbone or scooter?

[Bogeyman]

European Scooter pa rin ako. Preferably Piaggio Vespa.

Pros
1. Prestige and ageless Style.
2. Hindi ka magpupulot ng plastic kapag sumemplang ka dahil puro bakal. Mabigat nga lang.
3. Matibay at may value. Ganun pa rin ang itsura after 10 years or more. Pintura lang yan.
4. May lalagyan ng spare tire.
5. Hindi ka mukhang messenger pero mukhang pizza delivery boy lang daw.
6. Etc.

Same here. Just yesterday, may nakita akong naka-Vespa, palabas ng parking ng Robinsons Galleria. Ganda pa rin talaga ng retro style, very mod. :D

[FrankDrebin]

Same here. Just yesterday, may nakita akong naka-Vespa, palabas ng parking ng Robinsons Galleria. Ganda pa rin talaga ng retro style, very mod. :D

Vespa ka na rin! Akala ko dati baduy yun pero nung nakahawak na ako hindi na bumalik sa Japanese. Right now my PX is currently in body repair and paint job. My officemate and I are currently into a Lambretta restoration. Grabe ang mahal ng parts! Ultimo turnilyo libo ang usapan.

[baludoy]

di ko ata kaya yung mga big bike. parang sobrang bigat bro eh

wala naman problema yung access sa auto, kasi i have one naman at my disposal. it's just ever since i was a kid, i've always wanted to own a bike. like someone once said to me, it's the closest thing to flying ( 'wag lang yung palipad na aksidente) it's just right now, i think it's practical to own one plus ang dami ng pagpipilian mo ngayon sa market. i mean its a friggin' buyer's market nowadays !

yun nga lang i still need to convince myself if its really worth it. to buy onei mean. kasi nga 'di naman siya maliit na halaga din. tsaka yung safety issues medyo doon ako kabado. aside from the danger your fellow motorists present, i'm thinking more of the criminal elements around you during the "alanganin" time of the night/morning.

isa pang tanong mga katoto, masmabigat ang motor/scoot, totoo bang mas safe?

[badsekktor]

isa pang tanong mga katoto, masmabigat ang motor/scoot, totoo bang mas safe?

not really... its like taming a beast kasi. pag mabigat ang bike mo mahihirapan ka pag slow pace ang andar ng mga sasakyan lalo na pag di ka pa sanay sa hand clutch (for bigbikes) baka madisgrasya ka pa. kung high speeds, mas stable ang heavier bikes kasi nga mas malalapad ang gulong at mas mabigat ang bike, yun nga lang mas mahaba rin ang stopping distance nito compared to lighter bikes.

wala naman problema tong mga factors na to kung experienced rider ka na pero kung ikaw eh sanay ng di bumabalanse eh better get a starter bike. a more powerful bike might get you killed if you cant handle the power.

[baludoy]

^what's an example of a starter bike?

i've ridden several scoots and underbone bikes already but i plan to enroll in a riding academy so that i can avoid any unnecessary ill advised or wrong riding practices when and if i decide to push through getting a bike. i read somewhere that there's a riding academy in sucat ( honda ata 'to) and in the fort and they testified thet these riding academies were pretty helpful to newbie riders

[badsekktor]

^what's an example of a starter bike?

i've ridden several scoots and underbone bikes already but i plan to enroll in a riding academy so that i can avoid any unnecessary ill advised or wrong riding practices when and if i decide to push through getting a bike. i read somewhere that there's a riding academy in sucat ( honda ata 'to) and in the fort and they testified thet these riding academies were pretty helpful to newbie riders

hmm.... not the expert on this pero basing on price and disposability of these bikes, i can suggest a couple.

Suzuki R150 - has the power of a "bigbike"
- same shifting pattern as of those "bigbikes"
- lightweight
- HC
Motorstar Z200 - same size with "bigbikes"
- "bigbike look"
- HC
- much easier to handle compared to "bigbikes"
CB400 aka Super 4 - technically speaking it is a "bigbike"
- rider friendly since it is a standard bike

[heightdeprived]

^what's an example of a starter bike?

i've ridden several scoots and underbone bikes already but i plan to enroll in a riding academy so that i can avoid any unnecessary ill advised or wrong riding practices when and if i decide to push through getting a bike. i read somewhere that there's a riding academy in sucat ( honda ata 'to) and in the fort and they testified thet these riding academies were pretty helpful to newbie riders

an underbone is already a good starter bike, but for those who haven't started riding yet, riding at least a 50cc scoot will be good enough for them at least they'll be able to learn riding basics like how to assume bike thrust, when to assume balance afterwhich they can progress to underbones, pantra bikes or big bikes, hirap kasi kapag 200cc and up, kahit nga sa 125cc minsan nagugulat pa ang newbie rider pag nag surge forward yung motor at 1st gear eh, so yun lang :D

[heightdeprived]

yung safety issues medyo doon ako kabado. aside from the danger your fellow motorists present, i'm thinking more of the criminal elements around you during the "alanganin" time of the night/morning.

I haven't been in one but if you have the opportunity I'd recommend you to take a motorcycle riders' course. Drive and Ride safe! :D

isa pang tanong mga katoto, masmabigat ang motor/scoot, totoo bang mas safe?

may taga MCP ba dito? wala lang hehe, I've read the term cager, anyway, here's my two cents, considering safety, IMHO, as a rider your safety depends on you part ng pagmomotor ang panghuhula ng magiging kilos ng ibang mga sasakyan,totoo na mahirap na makita ang isang motor kapag nasa loob ka ng kotse, so kailangan araw man o gabi bukas ang head light mo. And ride as if you are invisible to other road users so kailangan mo magpapansin to prevent bike crashes kasi ang usual na reason niyan is "di kasi kita nakita eh". Do not run more than you can, run at a speed dictated by common sense. Sabi nga, masarap magmotor pero papatayin ka niyan pag nahaluan ng kayabangan, I've experienced that during my "pasaway" days but not anymore. When I had a crash and thinking about the whole situation, it's from there I've learned that my safety depends on me as a rider 80 per cent on me and 20 per cent on other road users. Concerning the bike's weight, actually as far as I know the weight is not that big of a safety consideration. Having a beefy bike will make it more difficult to maneuver in emergency situations unlike a lighter bike while a lighter bike is rumored to be susceptible to side drafts. However based on the experiences of other motorcycle riders as read both heavy and light bikes are affected by side drafts be that be a full faired sportbike, half faired hooligan , underbone or a scooter. Having that said,the bike's lateral area IMO is of greater safety consideration than it's weight for a heavy full faired motorbike is may be more susceptible to side drafts than a mid sized half-faired or unfaired mid size bike.