underbone or scooter?

[baludoy]

which do you prefer for riding on major thoroughfares, underbone bikes (100-150cc) or scooters (100-150cc)?

and is it safe to ride even during the wee hours of the morning nowadays (from work or what have yous)?

pasensiya na sa tanong mga katoto

[BoEinG_747]

bro Baludoy.underbone ka na lang dami pa pwede bihisan para i porma

depende din sa budget di ba mas mura na lang mga scooter ngayon compare sa UB

[1D4LV]

imho. scooter ako. lalo na yung mga big-bodied scooters....

[FrankDrebin]

European Scooter pa rin ako. Preferably Piaggio Vespa.

Pros
1. Prestige and ageless Style.
2. Hindi ka magpupulot ng plastic kapag sumemplang ka dahil puro bakal. Mabigat nga lang.
3. Matibay at may value. Ganun pa rin ang itsura after 10 years or more. Pintura lang yan.
4. May lalagyan ng spare tire.
5. Hindi ka mukhang messenger pero mukhang pizza delivery boy lang daw.
6. Etc.

Cons.
1.

[FPJ]

European Scooter pa rin ako. Preferably Piaggio Vespa.

Pros
1. Prestige and ageless Style.
2. Hindi ka magpupulot ng plastic kapag sumemplang ka dahil puro bakal. Mabigat nga lang.
3. Matibay at may value. Ganun pa rin ang itsura after 10 years or more. Pintura lang yan.
4. May lalagyan ng spare tire.
5. Hindi ka mukhang messenger pero mukhang pizza delivery boy lang daw.
6. Etc.

Cons.
1.

1. Baka mapagkamalan kang Bumbay! Dami nyan sa India e.

I prefer a maxi-scooter like Honda Silverwing600/Yamaha T-Max600 or Suzuki Burgman600cc...Comfortable pa ang backrider mo.

[Bogeyman]

European Scooter pa rin ako. Preferably Piaggio Vespa.

Pros
1. Prestige and ageless Style.
2. Hindi ka magpupulot ng plastic kapag sumemplang ka dahil puro bakal. Mabigat nga lang.
3. Matibay at may value. Ganun pa rin ang itsura after 10 years or more. Pintura lang yan.
4. May lalagyan ng spare tire.
5. Hindi ka mukhang messenger pero mukhang pizza delivery boy lang daw.
6. Etc.

Same here. Just yesterday, may nakita akong naka-Vespa, palabas ng parking ng Robinsons Galleria. Ganda pa rin talaga ng retro style, very mod. :D

[FrankDrebin]

Same here. Just yesterday, may nakita akong naka-Vespa, palabas ng parking ng Robinsons Galleria. Ganda pa rin talaga ng retro style, very mod. :D

Vespa ka na rin! Akala ko dati baduy yun pero nung nakahawak na ako hindi na bumalik sa Japanese. Right now my PX is currently in body repair and paint job. My officemate and I are currently into a Lambretta restoration. Grabe ang mahal ng parts! Ultimo turnilyo libo ang usapan.

[baludoy]

di ko ata kaya yung mga big bike. parang sobrang bigat bro eh

wala naman problema yung access sa auto, kasi i have one naman at my disposal. it's just ever since i was a kid, i've always wanted to own a bike. like someone once said to me, it's the closest thing to flying ( 'wag lang yung palipad na aksidente) it's just right now, i think it's practical to own one plus ang dami ng pagpipilian mo ngayon sa market. i mean its a friggin' buyer's market nowadays !

yun nga lang i still need to convince myself if its really worth it. to buy onei mean. kasi nga 'di naman siya maliit na halaga din. tsaka yung safety issues medyo doon ako kabado. aside from the danger your fellow motorists present, i'm thinking more of the criminal elements around you during the "alanganin" time of the night/morning.

isa pang tanong mga katoto, masmabigat ang motor/scoot, totoo bang mas safe?

[badsekktor]

isa pang tanong mga katoto, masmabigat ang motor/scoot, totoo bang mas safe?

not really... its like taming a beast kasi. pag mabigat ang bike mo mahihirapan ka pag slow pace ang andar ng mga sasakyan lalo na pag di ka pa sanay sa hand clutch (for bigbikes) baka madisgrasya ka pa. kung high speeds, mas stable ang heavier bikes kasi nga mas malalapad ang gulong at mas mabigat ang bike, yun nga lang mas mahaba rin ang stopping distance nito compared to lighter bikes.

wala naman problema tong mga factors na to kung experienced rider ka na pero kung ikaw eh sanay ng di bumabalanse eh better get a starter bike. a more powerful bike might get you killed if you cant handle the power.

[baludoy]

^what's an example of a starter bike?

i've ridden several scoots and underbone bikes already but i plan to enroll in a riding academy so that i can avoid any unnecessary ill advised or wrong riding practices when and if i decide to push through getting a bike. i read somewhere that there's a riding academy in sucat ( honda ata 'to) and in the fort and they testified thet these riding academies were pretty helpful to newbie riders

[heightdeprived]

yung safety issues medyo doon ako kabado. aside from the danger your fellow motorists present, i'm thinking more of the criminal elements around you during the "alanganin" time of the night/morning.

I haven't been in one but if you have the opportunity I'd recommend you to take a motorcycle riders' course. Drive and Ride safe! :D

isa pang tanong mga katoto, masmabigat ang motor/scoot, totoo bang mas safe?

may taga MCP ba dito? wala lang hehe, I've read the term cager, anyway, here's my two cents, considering safety, IMHO, as a rider your safety depends on you part ng pagmomotor ang panghuhula ng magiging kilos ng ibang mga sasakyan,totoo na mahirap na makita ang isang motor kapag nasa loob ka ng kotse, so kailangan araw man o gabi bukas ang head light mo. And ride as if you are invisible to other road users so kailangan mo magpapansin to prevent bike crashes kasi ang usual na reason niyan is "di kasi kita nakita eh". Do not run more than you can, run at a speed dictated by common sense. Sabi nga, masarap magmotor pero papatayin ka niyan pag nahaluan ng kayabangan, I've experienced that during my "pasaway" days but not anymore. When I had a crash and thinking about the whole situation, it's from there I've learned that my safety depends on me as a rider 80 per cent on me and 20 per cent on other road users. Concerning the bike's weight, actually as far as I know the weight is not that big of a safety consideration. Having a beefy bike will make it more difficult to maneuver in emergency situations unlike a lighter bike while a lighter bike is rumored to be susceptible to side drafts. However based on the experiences of other motorcycle riders as read both heavy and light bikes are affected by side drafts be that be a full faired sportbike, half faired hooligan , underbone or a scooter. Having that said,the bike's lateral area IMO is of greater safety consideration than it's weight for a heavy full faired motorbike is may be more susceptible to side drafts than a mid sized half-faired or unfaired mid size bike.

[badsekktor]

kung nagtitipid ka sa gas underbone ka! mas mura ang underbone kesa scoot. mas comportable ang scoot. mas ok nga lang sa trapik ang underbone. mura ang underbone.

[JAYarc]

underbone for fuel economy and zipping thru dead traffic, scooter for comfort just twist and go .... wee hour is just ok just be alert for speeding co motorist and bad element.. drive as cagers do... happy haunting

[baludoy]

^600cc scoots? i think thats too much for me

bro boeing: totoo bang mas sirain ang underbone kapag marami ng modifications?

so by and large safe mag motor ng dyes oras ng gabi. wala namang masydong himala nangyayari? especially sa mga pauwi galing night shift?

badsekktor: malaki pala difference ng gas consumption ng scoots and UB (given the same cc)?

[badsekktor]

badsekktor: malaki pala difference ng gas consumption ng scoots and UB (given the same cc)?

di naman masyado malaki difference. siguro around 5 - 7 km/liter difference between a scoot and an underbone pag same displacement. factor dito yun transmission. ang scoot kasi twist and go while UBs have gears whether AC or HC saka scoots have their peak torque at higher rpms compared to UB's na lower rpms ang peak torque nila

[BoEinG_747]

^600cc scoots? i think thats too much for me

bro boeing: totoo bang mas sirain ang underbone kapag marami ng modifications?

Bro baludoy,ganon din naman pag scoot na madami modifications

so by and large safe mag motor ng dyes oras ng gabi. wala namang masydong himala nangyayari? especially sa mga pauwi galing night shift?

depende din cguro sa place mo brod ..mahirap mag pagabi ang dali pa naman agawin ng mga MC .ako kahit mejo malayo ,basta doon ako dadaan sa mga madami tao or mga sasakyan pa din

just curious... ano bang "modifications" na useful ang pwede gawin sa underbone?
i've seen a lot of underbones that are lowered... neon lights... fart mufflers... narrower handle bars... etc...

ang iba kasi nag palaki ng engine displacement ,open ang pipe (dagdag lakas sa gaso nga lang)change ng clutch spring (pang racing ang Gusto).
PnP (port n polish).palit ng air filter(simota type),may nag palit pa ng oil sa fork para mas malambot daw...ipapatabas ang upuan at palit seat cover.palit din ng mags ,duck tail.(jaform lang) change horn and relay (eto gusto ko ito)

IMO lang tingin ko mas mahalaga doon ay dagdag ilaw or neon lights .para mas visible sa lang gabi...ang iba modifications puro pamporma lang at dagdag consumo sa gasolina lang

pero kung ako may bago na UB ..stay in stock ko na lang .

yun sa pinsan ko all stock ..
parang sarap pa gamitin at pati tunog







di pa butas ang bulsa

[mazdamazda]

just curious... ano bang "modifications" na useful ang pwede gawin sa underbone?

i've seen a lot of underbones that are lowered... neon lights... fart mufflers... narrower handle bars... etc...

[FrankDrebin]

i've seen a lot of underbones that are lowered... neon lights... fart mufflers... narrower handle bars... etc...

Kaya ayaw ko ng UB. Beinte pesos isang tumpok sa kalye. Ang dami mong kamukha ng ride! Mas matagal pa sa checkpoint kasi tamang hinala lagi ang mga pulis baka nakaw.

[mazdamazda]

Kaya ayaw ko ng UB. Beinte pesos isang tumpok sa kalye. Ang dami mong kamukha ng ride! Mas matagal pa sa checkpoint kasi tamang hinala lagi ang mga pulis baka nakaw.

Yup... mas ok pa din ang scooter... nagtataka lang ako bakit yung iba tinatanggal yung panels ng scooter nila.

[Horsepower]

sa dami ng namamatay ngayon sa motorcycles, sir, you might wanna save up a few more and just get a 2nd hand car like Toyota Corolla 92 (one of the best toyotas ever). Sa motor kasi masagi ka lang, 90% probability na fatal.