underbone or scooter?

[wewoy_romero]

pardon the ignorance, ano difference ng underbone sa scooter?

sorry po kasi sa akin parang "if it's smaller than a motorcyle, i call it a scooter"

[BoEinG_747]

^600cc scoots? i think thats too much for me

bro boeing: totoo bang mas sirain ang underbone kapag marami ng modifications?

Bro baludoy,ganon din naman pag scoot na madami modifications

so by and large safe mag motor ng dyes oras ng gabi. wala namang masydong himala nangyayari? especially sa mga pauwi galing night shift?

depende din cguro sa place mo brod ..mahirap mag pagabi ang dali pa naman agawin ng mga MC .ako kahit mejo malayo ,basta doon ako dadaan sa mga madami tao or mga sasakyan pa din

just curious... ano bang "modifications" na useful ang pwede gawin sa underbone?
i've seen a lot of underbones that are lowered... neon lights... fart mufflers... narrower handle bars... etc...

ang iba kasi nag palaki ng engine displacement ,open ang pipe (dagdag lakas sa gaso nga lang)change ng clutch spring (pang racing ang Gusto).
PnP (port n polish).palit ng air filter(simota type),may nag palit pa ng oil sa fork para mas malambot daw...ipapatabas ang upuan at palit seat cover.palit din ng mags ,duck tail.(jaform lang) change horn and relay (eto gusto ko ito)

IMO lang tingin ko mas mahalaga doon ay dagdag ilaw or neon lights .para mas visible sa lang gabi...ang iba modifications puro pamporma lang at dagdag consumo sa gasolina lang

pero kung ako may bago na UB ..stay in stock ko na lang .

yun sa pinsan ko all stock ..
parang sarap pa gamitin at pati tunog







di pa butas ang bulsa

[boybi]

ano ba ang underbone? ito ba yung mga honda xtrm or wave?

ang scooter ba = moped?

[BoEinG_747]

ano ba ang underbone? ito ba yung mga honda xtrm or wave?

Underbone:
Honda XRM ,Wave,
Suzuki Raider150/125, Shogun Pro/125, Raider Jr.
Lifan Saturn ,
Yamaha X-1
Kawasaki Leostar,Aura



Scooters:

Kymco Top boy
Jog
Dink
Bigboy Sinski
Granstar diamond
Yamaha Mio
Sym Joyride

ang scooter ba = moped?

ang Moped ata ang Underbone

[badsekktor]

isa pang tanong mga katoto, masmabigat ang motor/scoot, totoo bang mas safe?

not really... its like taming a beast kasi. pag mabigat ang bike mo mahihirapan ka pag slow pace ang andar ng mga sasakyan lalo na pag di ka pa sanay sa hand clutch (for bigbikes) baka madisgrasya ka pa. kung high speeds, mas stable ang heavier bikes kasi nga mas malalapad ang gulong at mas mabigat ang bike, yun nga lang mas mahaba rin ang stopping distance nito compared to lighter bikes.

wala naman problema tong mga factors na to kung experienced rider ka na pero kung ikaw eh sanay ng di bumabalanse eh better get a starter bike. a more powerful bike might get you killed if you cant handle the power.

[baludoy]

^what's an example of a starter bike?

i've ridden several scoots and underbone bikes already but i plan to enroll in a riding academy so that i can avoid any unnecessary ill advised or wrong riding practices when and if i decide to push through getting a bike. i read somewhere that there's a riding academy in sucat ( honda ata 'to) and in the fort and they testified thet these riding academies were pretty helpful to newbie riders

[Josh0027]

Sa akin get a 2nd hand big bike. Mga 250-400cc puwede na. Wala pa nga din ako nakikita na big bike na involve sa aksidente.

[Marc MD]

lagyan mo na din ng "air brakes" kuno.. kssssssssssss.... ksss. kssssssss...


pero meron talaga sa iba na totoong air brakes ang nakalagay.. yun nga lang mas madami ang ksssssssssssss.....

Sa akin get a 2nd hand big bike. Mga 250-400cc puwede na. Wala pa nga din ako nakikita na big bike na involve sa aksidente.

well siguro kasi mas talamak ang mga Underbone/Scoots.. puro pa mga walang safety gear at kulang sa experience ang gumagamit (bata, teens, babae, manang).. karamihan pa walang license.. whereas yun mga naka BigBikes malamang may prior experience na sa maliliit ika nga e starter bikes.. its very hard to use a bigbike.. meron kami Ninja Type pero di ko magamit kasi ang bigat baka sumemplang lang ako.. maka disgrasiya pa ng iba..

[heightdeprived]

yung safety issues medyo doon ako kabado. aside from the danger your fellow motorists present, i'm thinking more of the criminal elements around you during the "alanganin" time of the night/morning.

I haven't been in one but if you have the opportunity I'd recommend you to take a motorcycle riders' course. Drive and Ride safe! :D

isa pang tanong mga katoto, masmabigat ang motor/scoot, totoo bang mas safe?

may taga MCP ba dito? wala lang hehe, I've read the term cager, anyway, here's my two cents, considering safety, IMHO, as a rider your safety depends on you part ng pagmomotor ang panghuhula ng magiging kilos ng ibang mga sasakyan,totoo na mahirap na makita ang isang motor kapag nasa loob ka ng kotse, so kailangan araw man o gabi bukas ang head light mo. And ride as if you are invisible to other road users so kailangan mo magpapansin to prevent bike crashes kasi ang usual na reason niyan is "di kasi kita nakita eh". Do not run more than you can, run at a speed dictated by common sense. Sabi nga, masarap magmotor pero papatayin ka niyan pag nahaluan ng kayabangan, I've experienced that during my "pasaway" days but not anymore. When I had a crash and thinking about the whole situation, it's from there I've learned that my safety depends on me as a rider 80 per cent on me and 20 per cent on other road users. Concerning the bike's weight, actually as far as I know the weight is not that big of a safety consideration. Having a beefy bike will make it more difficult to maneuver in emergency situations unlike a lighter bike while a lighter bike is rumored to be susceptible to side drafts. However based on the experiences of other motorcycle riders as read both heavy and light bikes are affected by side drafts be that be a full faired sportbike, half faired hooligan , underbone or a scooter. Having that said,the bike's lateral area IMO is of greater safety consideration than it's weight for a heavy full faired motorbike is may be more susceptible to side drafts than a mid sized half-faired or unfaired mid size bike.

[heightdeprived]

well siguro kasi mas talamak ang mga Underbone/Scoots.. puro pa mga walang safety gear at kulang sa experience ang gumagamit (bata, teens, babae, manang).. karamihan pa walang license.. whereas yun mga naka BigBikes malamang may prior experience na sa maliliit ika nga e starter bikes.. its very hard to use a bigbike.. meron kami Ninja Type pero di ko magamit kasi ang bigat baka sumemplang lang ako.. maka disgrasiya pa ng iba..

while there are also a number of big bikers who have learned motorcycle riding on big bikes. Plus the number of undisciplined big bike riders is miniscule compared to the pasaways on either scooter or underbones a very likely reason why the disciplined scooterists and underboners are forgotten and the pasaway scooterists and underboners have became evident while undisciplined bigbikers are going unnoticed. So to make it short, the pasaway population of a certain motorcycle classification group is proportion to the general population of that motorcycle group so since mas maraming locally made underbones and scooters mas obvious ang pasaway smallbikers than pasaway big bikers.

[yondaime]

*heightdeprived
sir mcp member di me, hehe..

anyway, kaya mas marami naaasidente sa underbones vs bigbike dahil na rin sa access ng mga batang ito sa mga byke na underbones, a teen na may height na 5'5'' ay hindi talaga sasakay sa bigbikes, consider na rin sa price ng brand new underbone sa brandnew bigbike.

*josh0027
meron din pong pasaway at mayayabang na naka bigbikes, mga naka bigbykes na walang helmet, naka shorts and sandos, at meron din mayayabang...

[heightdeprived]

pardon the ignorance, ano difference ng underbone sa scooter?

sorry po kasi sa akin parang "if it's smaller than a motorcyle, i call it a scooter"

Underbone, looks like a scooter only with the absence of a flat legroom and it usually has an underseat fuel tank like that of a scooter however it behaves like that of a motorcycle which has a pedal gearshifter while Scooters are bikes that has no pillion bars but instead it's got a flat regroom up front to accommodate the rider's Legs.Usually it has got a CVT belt driven auto transmission while there are some scooters like those of piaggio that has MANUAL gear shifters (either twisting the left grip up fore or aft determines upshift or downshift).

[Kamui]

Underbone and Scooter are for the most part the same. The only differences are the tire size, riding position and comfort they provide. Underbones are somewhat unique to Asia, I think. Scooters have features like bigger compartments to store things and are generally more comfortable to ride on. Underbones are more flexible. An underbone can be personalized to suite its owner. There are lots of accessories available for them.

In regard to accidents on big and small bikes. The reason why there are more accidents in the Philippines that involve small bikes is because roughly 80% of the total motorcycle population are small bikes and only a few are on big bikes. If it were the other way around big bikes will be involved in more accidents. The same logic applies to four wheeled vehicles like cars and trucks.

[badsekktor]

^what's an example of a starter bike?

i've ridden several scoots and underbone bikes already but i plan to enroll in a riding academy so that i can avoid any unnecessary ill advised or wrong riding practices when and if i decide to push through getting a bike. i read somewhere that there's a riding academy in sucat ( honda ata 'to) and in the fort and they testified thet these riding academies were pretty helpful to newbie riders

hmm.... not the expert on this pero basing on price and disposability of these bikes, i can suggest a couple.

Suzuki R150 - has the power of a "bigbike"
- same shifting pattern as of those "bigbikes"
- lightweight
- HC
Motorstar Z200 - same size with "bigbikes"
- "bigbike look"
- HC
- much easier to handle compared to "bigbikes"
CB400 aka Super 4 - technically speaking it is a "bigbike"
- rider friendly since it is a standard bike

[wrcastro_ph]

Kung medyo malaki ang budget mo mag maxi scooter ka maski Taiwan.

[baludoy]

^maxi-scooter? ano ba usual displacement ng mga iyan?

[cyrusblutrooper]

which do you prefer for riding on major thoroughfares, underbone bikes (100-150cc) or scooters (100-150cc)?

and is it safe to ride even during the wee hours of the morning nowadays (from work or what have yous)?

pasensiya na sa tanong mga katoto

are you kidding, i wont ride a bike particularly on a UB or Scoot (maybe on big bikes) but on a smallbike... no way... the thing is when your on a bike driving on major roads, assuming going to work, by the time your arrive on your work youll be stinky or smell like burnt fumes...

[badsekktor]

^maxi-scooter? ano ba usual displacement ng mga iyan?

meron 400-600 cc
minsan meron din liter scoots.

Just a piece of advice, better hone your skills before running those bigbikes. Bigbikes have more power and much heavier so crashing them might be more fatal. Riding bikes is different from driving a car, and it is more difficult to learn how to ride than to drive so I do advice that you inquire at Honda and take the motorcycle riding course

[FrankDrebin]

...by the time your arrive on your work youll be stinky or smell like burnt fumes...

Helmet, jacket, gloves, extra shirt, etc. will help. ;)

[badsekktor]

Helmet, jacket, gloves, extra shirt, etc. will help. ;)

samahan mo na rin ng cologne or perfume