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    #21
    Quote Originally Posted by beatles
    wala naman sinabi na kailangan naka etch eh, ang sbi lng proper ID, so pwde din made from sticker. mdyo ok naman yng bill kng iisipin ng mabuti, ksi ang daming motor na wlang proper papers and para sa safety na rin ng lahat. mas maraming law mas mabuti, kng puro complain kyo wla na tlga mangyayari sa bansa natin. respectable naman yan si Gordon eh pati si bayani fernando, pero nasanay na mga tao sa wlang disiplina kaya isang batas lng na ipasa complain agad.
    good point...

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    #22
    i guess simple police visibility will deter crimes, kung walang pulis, kahit may helmet at may name siya...wala din

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    #23
    wala naman sinabi na kailangan naka etch eh, ang sbi lng proper ID, so pwde din made from sticker. mdyo ok naman yng bill kng iisipin ng mabuti, ksi ang daming motor na wlang proper papers and para sa safety na rin ng lahat. mas maraming law mas mabuti, kng puro complain kyo wla na tlga mangyayari sa bansa natin. respectable naman yan si Gordon eh pati si bayani fernando, pero nasanay na mga tao sa wlang disiplina kaya isang batas lng na ipasa complain agad.
    not even a good point. being a respectable person doesn't excuse one from making/having stupid ideas. im not saying this proposed bill is stupid; but it sure as heck comes close to it!

    people here will not complain against an idea if the idea has a sound reasoning behind it. i mean c'mon wearing a helmet that has your name and your bikes number? what if i have two bikes and only one helmet? should i get another helmet just for the other bike? and dont tell me that sticker lang naman yun... would you like to keep changing the sticker on your helmet when you change bikes?

    and lastly, do you think that this simple method of stickers on the helmet will deter the assasins and robbers from doing their dirty work? sobrang dali lang kaya magnakaw ng bike ngayon... and even easier to put a sticker on a helmet.

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    I agree with the statement of improving police intelligence and police visibility. Mr. Gordon should be attacking the root of the problem.

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    #25
    Quote Originally Posted by beatles
    wala naman sinabi na kailangan naka etch eh, ang sbi lng proper ID, so pwde din made from sticker. mdyo ok naman yng bill kng iisipin ng mabuti, ksi ang daming motor na wlang proper papers and para sa safety na rin ng lahat. mas maraming law mas mabuti, kng puro complain kyo wla na tlga mangyayari sa bansa natin. respectable naman yan si Gordon eh pati si bayani fernando, pero nasanay na mga tao sa wlang disiplina kaya isang batas lng na ipasa complain agad.
    Alam mo kasi, kid, marami nang paraan na pwedeng gamitin ang mga kinauukulan. Like I said, improved intelligence, police visibility, faster response time and stricter implementation of the gun ban. Idagdag na dito yung proper regulation ng mga motorcycle units.

    These are all legal options na hindi pa nama-maximize ng mga pulis, tapos itong si Gordon eh magdadagdag na naman ng isa, na halatang spur-of-the-moment decision at hindi pinag-isipan ng mabuti. Bukod sa walang katuturan at dagdag gastos, pwedeng-pwede pang lusutan.

    Natatambak lang tuloy ang mga batas natin na hindi napapatupad. Sayang lang ang buwis ng mamamayan na ginagastos sa mga deliberations sa Kongreso. Kung nagta-trabaho ka na at nagbabayad ng tax, alam mo ang ibig kong sabihin.
    Last edited by Bogeyman; May 26th, 2005 at 11:47 AM.

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    #26
    a better bill would be enforcing an MC Lane sa mga side & secondary roads and banning scooters and small MC's sa mga major highways.

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    #27
    hmmmm. actually dami ngang hassles pag naka bike eh.
    last month, while i was cruising home from makati, going via macapagal - coastal going to my home in las pinas, naka 3 times ata akong pinara eh. puro hingi ng identification ang ginawa. so the usual 20 minute travel time, naging 1 hour.

    pero i really would not agree with the proposed putting a sticker on the helmet. daling pekeen ng sticker eh. dali ring nakawin ng helmet.

    identification? government issued dogtags kaya? hehehehe. pero madali ring nakawin yun eh.
    Last edited by 1D4LV; May 26th, 2005 at 12:32 PM.

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    #28
    Mr. Roninblade sinasabi mo na madali lng magnakaw ng MC and magdikit ng sticker sa helmet... kaya nga kailangan ng proper ID, para mabawasan ang pagnakaw ng motor ksi nga madali lng gawin ito. my other point is kng madali lng magdikit ng sticker na false, eh gamitin mo naman ang UTAK MO ksi kng iba ang nakadikit na information then pwde sya maging suspect ksi hndi MATCH yung helmet sa MC. Tama ba? and kng ang ibig sbhn mo naman no madali lng magdikit eh d sumunod ka nlng sa patakaran ksi nga madali lng sundan eh...

    another na sa sinabi mo na people won't complain kng may tamang reason behind it... dyan ka nagkakamali... nasa nature na ng pinoy ang magcomplain kasi hndi nila tlga iniintindi ang effect nung batas, ang laman lng ng utak nila eh ANO ANG MAS NAKAKABUTI SA AKIN... hndi na nila iniisip ang kapakanan ng karamihan... sympre minsan dpat din magsacrifice so sana bago magcomplain intindihin muna or magbigay nlng ng suggestion pra mapaganda yng bill... sa color coding plang ang dami ng complain pero mas napabuti naman yng traffic condition eh...

    Mr. Bogeyman, I respect you with what you said and I totally agree with you... alam ko na nakakapanghinayang kng saan lng nagagamit yng mga taxes pero ganito tlga ang mga politiko... kng matitino lng sana sila eh

    Mr. oldblue, maganda yng idea mo pero crowded na tyo sa Metro Manila so it would be harder kng gagawin yan... hndi naman tyo tulad sa china or taiwan na ang karamihan naka motor or bike so making this kind of law would be more expensive... pero yng idea mo tama naman

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    #29
    pano nga naman kung dalawa motor mo tapos isa lang ang helmet? bale dalawang sticker ilalagay sa helmet mo. o kaya bili ka ng bago. gastos!

    pano kung hinihiram ko motor o helmet ng kaibigan ko? ano solusyon nila ? walang hiraman!

    wrong solutions! pag isipan muna pwede!

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    #30
    Quote Originally Posted by beatles
    Mr. Roninblade sinasabi mo na madali lng magnakaw ng MC and magdikit ng sticker sa helmet... kaya nga kailangan ng proper ID, para mabawasan ang pagnakaw ng motor ksi nga madali lng gawin ito. my other point is kng madali lng magdikit ng sticker na false, eh gamitin mo naman ang UTAK MO ksi kng iba ang nakadikit na information then pwde sya maging suspect ksi hndi MATCH yung helmet sa MC. Tama ba? and kng ang ibig sbhn mo naman no madali lng magdikit eh d sumunod ka nlng sa patakaran ksi nga madali lng sundan eh...

    another na sa sinabi mo na people won't complain kng may tamang reason behind it... dyan ka nagkakamali... nasa nature na ng pinoy ang magcomplain kasi hndi nila tlga iniintindi ang effect nung batas, ang laman lng ng utak nila eh ANO ANG MAS NAKAKABUTI SA AKIN... hndi na nila iniisip ang kapakanan ng karamihan... sympre minsan dpat din magsacrifice so sana bago magcomplain intindihin muna or magbigay nlng ng suggestion pra mapaganda yng bill... sa color coding plang ang dami ng complain pero mas napabuti naman yng traffic condition eh...

    Mr. Bogeyman, I respect you with what you said and I totally agree with you... alam ko na nakakapanghinayang kng saan lng nagagamit yng mga taxes pero ganito tlga ang mga politiko... kng matitino lng sana sila eh

    Mr. oldblue, maganda yng idea mo pero crowded na tyo sa Metro Manila so it would be harder kng gagawin yan... hndi naman tyo tulad sa china or taiwan na ang karamihan naka motor or bike so making this kind of law would be more expensive... pero yng idea mo tama naman
    Ikaw ang hindi nag iisip eh...Sobra nang dami ng batas dito sa Pinas, dadagdagan na naman ng hindi muna pinag iisipang mabuti! Tignan mo itong litrato ng taong nag-propose ng batas naya!


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    #31
    Yan ba ang lawmaker o law breaker? Kakabilib di ba?

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    #32
    easy lang kayo. lahat naman tayo nag iisip. iba iba lang views natin.

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    #33
    Quote Originally Posted by beatles
    Mr. Roninblade sinasabi mo na madali lng magnakaw ng MC and magdikit ng sticker sa helmet... kaya nga kailangan ng proper ID, para mabawasan ang pagnakaw ng motor ksi nga madali lng gawin ito.
    kelangan ng proper ID para magnakaw ng motor? j/k. heheheh.

    Quote Originally Posted by beatles
    my other point is kng madali lng magdikit ng sticker na false, eh gamitin mo naman ang UTAK MO ksi kng iba ang nakadikit na information then pwde sya maging suspect ksi hndi MATCH yung helmet sa MC.
    who would be stupid enough to steal a bike then put a non-matching sticker on the helmet he's wearing?

    Quote Originally Posted by beatles
    another na sa sinabi mo na people won't complain kng may tamang reason behind it... dyan ka nagkakamali... nasa nature na ng pinoy ang magcomplain kasi hndi nila tlga iniintindi ang effect nung batas, ang laman lng ng utak nila eh ANO ANG MAS NAKAKABUTI SA AKIN... hndi na nila iniisip ang kapakanan ng karamihan... sympre minsan dpat din magsacrifice so sana bago magcomplain intindihin muna or magbigay nlng ng suggestion pra mapaganda yng bill... sa color coding plang ang dami ng complain pero mas napabuti naman yng traffic condition eh...
    i wasn't talking about the general public. i was referring to the people here in this forum. i said "people here will not complain against an idea...". i was trying to tell you that people here are educated and will not complain against an idea if the reasoning behind it are solid and not half-baked like the proposed MC bill. is that clear enough for ya?

    like the others said above me, hindi naman pwedeng one to one yung rider to motorcycle ratio... how about if i want to borrow my friend's bike? i cant borrow his helmet too; hindi ko naman name yung naka post sa sticker. and more importantly, what if di ko sya ka-size ng helmet or maluwang sa akin yung size? recommended for safety na exact fit yung helmet sa head mo. di ko naman pwedeng gamitin yung helmet ko kasi nga di match sa bike na gagamitin ko yung posted info, right?

    sabi nga namin dito hindi pinag-isipang mabuti ang proposed bill na yan. one should try to look at an idea from all sides and think of every possible consequence before supporting the said idea.

    lastly, this is a free flowing online discussion; no need to get emotional about it. attacking somebody personally or throwing insults (otherwise known as flaming) only shows how young and/or immature a person is. ;)

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    #34
    i'm not attacking you personally but I want to address it to you because it was your comment and you also made a comment on my comment, so there's no reason why we should pick a fight between each other. I also want to point out that not all forumers are educated enough because of those remarks they made. I know that you are mature enough to know the what is right from wrong but making a suggestion would be better than trashing the bill without making any review. another thing is that we have TOO MANY bill but are those bills being used? I guess not, so it is better to make a new one so that the public would know about it and it would be applicable to our present situation. the other bills, i think would not apply to the present because things have changed and we must adapt to our present situation.

    Mr. Roninblade, I am sorry if i have offended you but some comments are just out of place and please help in making this bill better by giving suggestion and asking question and not by saying trash this bill because of the reason you have.

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    #35
    i would also like to add that i respect some of your point, lalo na yng regarding sa helmet and bike thing and the borrowing of it. so by making suggestion it would be better. I'm sorry again and I hope you accept my apology.

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    #36
    FPJ, nagiisip naman ako eh... ikaw nga yng hndi nagiisip ksi puro lagay ka lng ng site dyan eh hahahah

    gaya ng check point sino bang may gusto nun... hndi lang nagpapatraffic, hassle pa sa driver. eh yng bill naman na to is for the safety ng MC drivers eh... eh d kng ayaw nila at may maaksidente buhay naman nila yun eh.

    Keep it cool nlng...

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    #37
    im sorry too but my only suggestion really is to trash this bill.
    in my opinion, its just the wrong way of addressing the issue at hand.

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    #38
    ok hahaha no hard feelings bro!

    how can you make this bill a better one?

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    #39
    sa amin mabilang mo lang ang may helmet, may patrol naninita pero sabihan ka lang warning... heheheheh

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    #40
    sana may fine yng mga wlang helmet para matuto mga yan...

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