MC riders Beware of new law!!!

[mazdamazda]

this is a really old thread (2 years old)... the said proposal didn't take off and wasn't made into a law.

closing this down.

[mazdamazda]

reopening this thread... may new update pala re: MMDA

[BoEinG_747]

reopening this thread... may new update pala re: MMDA

thanks mazdamazda

mga tsikoteers na may MC

pag natuloy ang rally sana po sumama tayo lahat para po sa kapakanan natin ito..

[Radical!]

reopening this thread... may new update pala re: MMDA

Is this about placing your motorcycle's license plate number on your helmet? IMHO, this is another one of Bayani Fernando's projects being implemented without giving it a lot of thought. Here are my reactions:

• If you own two or more motorcycles, that means you'll have to provide one helmet plus one for your backride for each bike. So, you'll need to purchase 4 helmets. Don't people buy motorcycles to save money?
  
• How about those who share their motorcycles (between siblings/between parents and children)? How many helmets do you have to purchase? If you have to share helmets, that will cause some hygiene issues. It's like sharing your socks with your brother except it's easy to wash socks, not helmets. How about company owned motorcycles? Companies will then have to purchase several helmets to provide multiple motorcycles/users.
  
• Very easy for a would be assasin/terrorist to buy a new helmet and etch/stick any plate number (or interchange one or the other on another motorcyle) to confuse vigilant cops.

I hope the MMDA thinks of a better gimmick regarding this...

[BoEinG_747]

Is this about placing your motorcycle's license plate number on your helmet? ...

sir radical ,iyan nga po ang issue

nakiusap ako kay sir MM open uli ang thread

ganda nga ng timing pag close nia kahapon ,ito naman kainitan uli ng issue

sa ngayon po may nagaganap na ata na public hearing sa MMDA


wait and see lang muna tayo

[badsekktor]

hehehe! ano kaya susunod?? pinturahan na mga mukha ng driver ng plate number ng sinasakyan nila?

[oldblue]

parang ang bastos naman ng leader nyan motorcycle club na yan, cutting off Bayani sa harap ng media and press conference

nakakahiya sa TV pa nangyari. I understand naman that emotions can get the better of you at times, pero dun sa nangyari sa TV madami siguro maasar sa asal niya. Di kaya pati mga pulis lalo sya pag-initan kasi para din nya sinabi walang kwenta kapulisan natin - in national TV.

[pajerokid]

quoting Bigdaddycool from MCP.... and i agree completely

"What's the point? If I was gonna mug somebody, I would use another helmet with a fake plate number. OR I would use both a fake helemet (number-wise) and fake plates. Do they really think muggers aren't gonna think of that? My helemet isn't really worth much but I cherish it cause it is all I can afford right now. If I had a 25K Shoei helemt, I would never intentionally damae it that way. As mentioned above, putting adhesives on the shell degrades its ability to protect you against impact due to the adhesive eating at the shell -making it brittle.

Throw in the discrimination factor... if this becomes a reality, we are going to look like dumbasses on the street with our plates glaring on both sides of our helemets (Visible from 25M away???). Thats a biiig sticker!

No offense but why don't people in cars get roadblocked more for a random check? (I drive a car but love my bike) I can carry more weapons in one car than I can do with 5 trips of a bike. Have they even taken that into consideration?? I bet they intentionally did not consider that as people need a convient way to do that by CAR.

I was fuming last night when I saw it on the news. I had been okay with BF till now. My bike serves as my relaxation and means of transport to work and I really do not want to go to work looking like a fool with stickers on my head.

Same concept as gun owners (no offense to peeps who own, I got one too.) Why aren't they required to mark their vehicles with "GUN ONWNER - .45P24378" on the sides of thier vehicles? I think that would be a more effictive way to control crime."

[pajerokid]

Potah! The Plate number should be readable from 25 frickin meters away!!!

E yung plate number nga ng auto hindi mo mabasa from that distance e!

[Kamui]

So they decide to implement this dumb law because of the number of crimes involving motorcycles as a getaway vehicle. What happens if the thieves just decide to forgo the use of motorcycles and go with old and cheap cars instead. With all the incidents of kidnapping and car jacking by thugs with high powered firearms, why don't they do the same for car users? Have cars stamp their plate numbers on the side of the vehicle so it can be seen on all sides to help people identify the plate even if the thugs remove them.

I mentioned this law to my friends back in America, and they all laughed at how silly it is.

Lets say they do manage to get this dumb law passed and the crimes still go on un hindered, they will just move on to the next dumb law. They banned carrying passengers on motorcycles and said it would help stop crime, but look where we are now, it's still the same. After a year, when they see the sticker law did absolutely nothing but fill the corrupt officials wallets, they will then propose banning full face helmets all together, citing the reason that it will help them identify people quickly by having them wear half faced instead. Then, they will have bikers wear reflective jackets that show their name in BIG letters so people can see. The possibilities go on and on!

It is fortunate that there are a few motorcycle groups with enough influence to fight against this kind of stupidity. I hope they succeed.

The solution will always be the police doing their damn job. In the U.S. you see cops patroling even at night, but here you see them all sleeping in their stations. WTF IS UP WITH THAT!!

[BoEinG_747]

Potah! The Plate number should be readable from 25 frickin meters away!!!

E yung plate number nga ng auto hindi mo mabasa from that distance e!

It has to be readable from a distance of 25 meters and should be placed 40 millimeters high on the helmet," Fernando said.

oo nga ..sabi ni BF..tapos 40 mm..pa

eh paano kung tatlo ang motor mo tapos isang Helmet ka lang ..eh di ang naging design ng helmet mo ay puro letters at numbers

at saka mas masagwa kung wala ka pa plate
"No Plate Available .under registration"

dami nakasulat sa helmet mo ..hahaha

[LexTer]

reopening this thread... may new update pala re: MMDA

yes sir. 3 or 4 days ago lang.

[BoEinG_747]

parang ang bastos naman ng leader nyan motorcycle club na yan, cutting off Bayani sa harap ng media and press conference

nakakahiya sa TV pa nangyari. I understand naman that emotions can get the better of you at times, pero dun sa nangyari sa TV madami siguro maasar sa asal niya. Di kaya pati mga pulis lalo sya pag-initan kasi para din nya sinabi walang kwenta kapulisan natin - in national TV.

ito ba iyon ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gg2lBXYalU

[BoEinG_747]

yes sir. 3 or 4 days ago lang.

di aware si MM..busy sa off season trade ng Fantasy Balls hehehe


hhhmmm sino kaya pwede ma harbat sa line up nia

[forza1]

This is simple stupid elected gov't people = stupid useless laws. How is the Phils going to rise with these kinds of people running the country.
I don't blame the MCP representatives on the news with Bayani for being rude he deserves it innocent motorcyclist always takes the blame always being harrassed, they just got fed up with all this bullsh!t.

[badsekktor]

as usual..... kung di magawa ang trabaho eh ipasa na lang sa tao ang responsibilidad.... hay naku....

[pedz]

let's just wait and see what will happen next week..

perhaps, bawal naman talagang lagyan ng sticker ang helmet, nasa manual yan lalo na yung mga branded helmet.. stickers and adhesive bawala sa helemt..

[siat69]

at tama ba nman ung in every corner yta na you passed by, eh paparahin ka ng paparahin w/o violation, just to check mc papers & d.license..just imagine, mayat-maya ka pull-over, baba ka sa motor, patay engine, buksan ang upuan para kunin ung o.r.,c.r...palagyan ko na lang ng windshield ang motor ko, dikit ko mga docs & big plate number!..im not biking anymore, napi feel ko lang ung mga ginagawa sa mga biker ng mga kups cops & traffic enforcer kups!

[CaMoTe!!!]

Below is Binay's response to the MMDA Resolution published on the Makati City website:



posted 06/25/2007 01:00 PM MONDAY
Makati Mayor Jejomar C. Binay today reminded the Metropolitan Manila Development Authirity (MMDA) to obey the decisions of the Supreme Court that define the limits of the agency’s powers.

Binay issued this statement after the MMDA said over the weekend that it will now require motorcycle riders to paint their license plate numbers on their helmets. Earlier, the MMDA said it will ban public assemblies, parades, funeral marches and similar activities on national roads.

“The Supreme Court has spoken clearly on the extent of the MMDA’s powers. The agency has no power to legislate. Only the city or municipal councils of the local governments have that power. Chairman Fernando may not like it, but it is the law. As public officials, we should set the example by obeying the law,” Binay said.

“The goals of improving the traffic situation in Metro Manila and fighting criminality do not justify non-compliance with existing laws,” he added.

Binay, a former MMDA chairman, said the resolution of the Metro Manila Council (MMC) has no force of law. In order to implement MMC resolutions, the mayors could ask their local councils to pass the appropriate ordinances, he said.

“The MMDA cannot enforce these resolutions without the appropriate local ordinances. That is the law,” Binay said.

Binay suggested that the mayors could also ask their local councils to deputize the MMDA to implement local ordinances.

“The power of local governments to enact measures to address their local traffic situation has been affirmed by the Supreme Court. The MMDA needs to be deputized by the local governments. Without this, they have no authority to enforce ordinances,” he said.

The Supreme Court, in its decision in the Bel-Air case in 1991, said that the MMDA has no legislative powers, and it is only the city or municipal councils that can pass local laws governing traffic management.

“The power to pass local laws, including laws governing traffic, belongs to the local legislative councils of the local governments. The MMC is a policy making body of the MMDA, which in turn, is a coordinating agency for Metro Manila based on the high tribunal’s ruling,” he said

[bbt]

i never thought i'd say this, pero agree ako kay binay!