2012 Montero Sport Owners

[carwhacko]

sir sa casa mo pa din dalin then magdala ka na lang ng preferred oil mo. mineral oil is fine but get the oil with the c1-4 rating. ako ganun din, ayaw kasi makinig ng father ko sa akin. na-advice lang ng full syn eh naniwala agad. sabi ko nga kahit mineral oil is fine basta may c1-4 rating. if budget is not an issue then go for fully syn.

Diba pag nagdala sariling oil babayaran mo na labor? Do you have any idea magkano labor? Will they also allow me to bring my own oil filter?


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[hachooro]

good read about oil ratings


http://www.motorexbih.com/API-SAE%20...%20Service.pdf

C - Commercial
CC – Moderate Duty Diesel and Gasoline Engine Service – OBSOLETE
CD – Severe Duty Diesel Engine Service – OBSOLETE
CD-II – Severe Duty Two-Cycle Diesel Engine Service – OBSOLETE
CE – Very Severe Diesel Engine Service – OBSOLETE


CF-4 – Severe Diesel Engine Service – CF-4 is designed to replace the CE engine oil classification. CF-4 designates oils with additive
packages for protecting high speed, low emission, four stroke diesels in heavy duty on-highway applications. Requirements for CF-4 oils
include greater oxidation resistance, high activity detergents and dispersants to prevent sludging and deposits. Oil consumption requirements
have also been stiffened. CF-4 oils supersede CD and CE oils and may be used where these service classifications are recommended.
LE’s 8800 MONOLEC ULTRA Engine Oil and LE’s 8130 MONOLEC ULTRA-BLEND Engine Oil exceed API CF-4 rating.

CF – Indirect Injected Diesel Engine Service – Service typical of indirect injected diesel engines and other diesel engines that use a
broad range of fuel types, including those using fuel with sulfur content above 0.5%. Requirements include control of piston deposits, wear
and bearing corrosion. Engines may be naturally aspirated, turbocharged or supercharged. CF rated oils may be used when API CD oils
are called for. LE’s 8800 MONOLEC ULTRA Engine Oil, LE’s 8130 MONOLEC ULTRA-BLEND and LE’s MONOLEC GFS Engine Oil meet
the CF requirements.

CF-2 – Severe Duty Two-Stroke Cycle Diesel Engine Service – Service typical of two-stroke cycle diesel engines requiring highly effec-
tive control of wear and deposits. Oils designed for this service demonstrate improved performance over API CD-II oils and can be used
wherever API CD-II oils are recommended.

CG-4 – 1994 Diesel Engine Service – CG-4 is intended to address engine wear and deposit issues linked to fuel specifications and
engine designs that are required to accommodate 1994 EPA emissions regulations. CG-4 oils exceed the requirements of the API CF-4
service category and replace CF-4. These oils are particularly suited to on-highway, heavy duty truck applications. When combined with
the appropriate “S” category, they can also be used in gasoline and diesel powered personal vehicles -- i.e., automobiles, light trucks and
vans-when recommended by the vehicle or engine manufacturer. LE’s 8800 MONOLEC ULTRA and LE’s 8130 MONOLEC ULTRA-BLEND
Engines Oils meet CG-4 specifications.

CH-4 – 1998 Reduced Emission Diesel Engine Service – The CH-4 category is intended to address the requirements for high-speed,
four stroke diesel engines to meet 1998 exhaust emission standards. CH-4 oils are specifically compounded for use with diesel fuels con-
taining up to 0.5% sulfur. They can also be used in gasoline engines when combined with the appropriate “S” category when the vehicle
or engine manufacturer recommends. CH-4 oils can replace those rated CD, CE, CF-4, and CG-4. LE’s 8800 MONOLEC ULTRA meets
the CH-4 specification and is rated API CH-4, CF, CF-2/SM.

CI-4 – 2002 Severe-Duty Diesel Engine Service – The API CI-4 Service category describes oils for use in those high-speed, four-stroke
cycle diesel engines designed to meet 2004 exhaust emission standards, to be implemented October 2002. These oils are compounded
for use in all applications with diesel fuels ranging in sulfur content up to 0.05% by weight. These oils are especially effective at sustaining
engine durability where Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) and other exhaust emission componentry may be used. Optimum protection
is provided for control of corrosive wear tendencies, low and high temperature stability, soot handling properties, piston deposit control,
valvetrain wear, oxidative thickening, foaming and viscosity loss due to shear. API CI-4 oils can effectively lubricate engines calling for API
CH-4, CG-4 and CF-4 Service Categories. LE’s 8888 MONOLEC EGR Plus Engine Oil meets the CI-4 and CI-4 Plus specification.
CJ-4 – 2006 Heavy Duty Diesel Engine Service; Exhaust Aftertreatment – Introduced in 2006. For high-speed, four-stroke engines
designed to meet 2007 model year on-highway exhaust emission standards. CJ-4 oils are compounded for use in all applications with
diesel fuels ranging in sulfur content up to 500 ppm (0.05% by weight). However, use of these oils with greater than 15 ppm (0.0015%
by weight) sulfur fuel may impact exhaust aftertreatment system durability and/or oil drain interval. CJ-4 oils are effective at sustaining
emission control system durability where particulate filters and other advanced aftertreatment systems are used. Optimum protection is
provided for control of catalyst poisoning, particulate filter blocking, engine wear, piston deposits, low and high temperature stability, soot
handling properties, oxidative thickening, foaming, and viscosity loss due to shear. API CJ-4 oils exceed the performance criteria of API
CI-4 with CI-4 PLUS, CI-4, CH-4, CG-4, and CF-4 and can effectively lubricate engines calling for those API Service Categories. When
using CJ-4 oil with higher than 15 ppm sulfur fuel, consult the engine manufacturer for service interval. 8800 MONOLEC ULTRA Engine
Oils meet the API CJ-4 specification.

[hachooro]

bro that was one service advisor at Diamond Marcos Hiway who told me that. pero i called sa Diamond greenhills kung saan recommended ni torque dahil meron yatang tiga mscp na nagandahan sa service ng Diamond Ghills...then i called and spoke to 1 service advisor (nakalimutan ko name, bong yata) sabi nya its ok to bring your own oil and free pa din ang labor ng 1000km check up pati 5k kms check up. i'll try to call and inquire ulit para sure.

kasi kami sa 5k check up baka magdala na din kami ng oil.

Diba pag nagdala sariling oil babayaran mo na labor? Do you have any idea magkano labor? Will they also allow me to bring my own oil filter?


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[carwhacko]

bro that was one service advisor at Diamond Marcos Hiway who told me that. pero i called sa Diamond greenhills kung saan recommended ni torque dahil meron yatang tiga mscp na nagandahan sa service ng Diamond Ghills...then i called and spoke to 1 service advisor (nakalimutan ko name, bong yata) sabi nya its ok to bring your own oil and free pa din ang labor ng 1000km check up pati 5k kms check up. i'll try to call and inquire ulit para sure.

kasi kami sa 5k check up baka magdala na din kami ng oil.

Sige balitaan mo ko agad ah. Salamat sa mga infos sir!


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[hachooro]

sige sir will let you know about it.

Sige balitaan mo ko agad ah. Salamat sa mga infos sir!


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[carwhacko]

sige sir will let you know about it.

Okay thank you!!


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[topilots]

sir sa casa mo pa din dalin then magdala ka na lang ng preferred oil mo. mineral oil is fine but get the oil with the c1-4 rating. ako ganun din, ayaw kasi makinig ng father ko sa akin. na-advice lang ng full syn eh naniwala agad. sabi ko nga kahit mineral oil is fine basta may c1-4 rating. if budget is not an issue then go for fully syn.

Is there any specific oil that we can use that has API CI-4 rating? Halos lahat ng nakita ko e API CF lang.

[hachooro]

Ilan lang po sa mga alam ko na may c1-4 rating

Caltex Delo 400 Multigrade
Caltex Delo Gold Ultra
kung meron sa caltex for sure meron din ang shell at petron.

Mobil Delvac
Valvoline All Fleet Premiums

Is there any specific oil that we can use that has API CI-4 rating? Halos lahat ng nakita ko e API CF lang.

[milo012007]

hi peeps, about the diesel. tinanong ko ang aking mitsu sales mgr about which is the best diesel type to use (either regular or iyung mas premium) and accdg to him accdg to a recent study by a local oil company - you need to stick to one type. if you started with regular, go with regular and if you started with premium (shell nitro, diesel turbo, others) you need to stick to it. the reason behind this he says is that the turbo has cleaning features. normally, if you're just using the regular fuel, overtime, it will have deposits in the fuel tank. if you suddenly switch to higher fuel type, the fuel will clean the fuel tank and will cause the deposits to clog / block the engine.

so, if you plan daw on switching fuel types from regular to higher types and if you have been using your SUV for sometime using regular, you need to have your fuel tank pulled down and cleaned. it will prevent daw future clogging / blocking problems.

accdg to him, the study was conducted daw because of reports & complaints about the quality of diesel in the country. bakit mas mausok daw mga diesel engine dito compared sa ibang bansa with same make & brand? may mga reports din of stalled vehicles.

well parang it makes sense, ano?

[milo012007]

by the way i'm using caltex diesel with techron. napansin kasi ng bayaw ko sa nissan patrol nya eh hindi mausok ng mag-switch sya to caltex.

[hachooro]

sa nabasa ko ditp,

Big 3 has euro 2 diesel rating, dito kasi nirerefine and fuel nila, others yata imported.

Seaoil - euro 3
Unioil - euro 4


kung san ka man komportable mag pa karga ng krudo basta stick to 1 or 2 gas station na hindi binabaha. ang importante makarga po sa sasakyan natin ang malinis na diesel.

Sabi nung iba, pag nakakita ka daw ng truck / gas container sa gas station, wag ka dun magpakarga kasi mag rerefill pa lang sila ng tank nila. pero kung nakarefill na, pwede na.

[otanod819]

Hi ulit guys. How much kaya chrome mags 4 pcs. for montero? May nakita kc ako binebenta pero hindi sa casa. Meron ba sa casa nito? Thanks..

[kep777]

hi peeps, about the diesel. tinanong ko ang aking mitsu sales mgr about which is the best diesel type to use (either regular or iyung mas premium) and accdg to him accdg to a recent study by a local oil company - you need to stick to one type. if you started with regular, go with regular and if you started with premium (shell nitro, diesel turbo, others) you need to stick to it. the reason behind this he says is that the turbo has cleaning features. normally, if you're just using the regular fuel, overtime, it will have deposits in the fuel tank. if you suddenly switch to higher fuel type, the fuel will clean the fuel tank and will cause the deposits to clog / block the engine.

so, if you plan daw on switching fuel types from regular to higher types and if you have been using your SUV for sometime using regular, you need to have your fuel tank pulled down and cleaned. it will prevent daw future clogging / blocking problems.

accdg to him, the study was conducted daw because of reports & complaints about the quality of diesel in the country. bakit mas mausok daw mga diesel engine dito compared sa ibang bansa with same make & brand? may mga reports din of stalled vehicles.

well parang it makes sense, ano?

not sure of the clogging, but montero and strada are really mausok. our strada pulled down and cleaned last january, now its been pulled down again last month due to black smoke. our hilux never been pulled down, until now no smoke. same diesel same station caltex. after strada service, shifted to shell if it gives the same result. toyota still on caltex. most friends with montero produced smoke few months after purchase.

[sirhcacal]

mga sirs.. tatanong lng po...during 1K check up..kelangn po ba change oil n rin? anu ano po ba ginagawa nila during 1K check up... change oil na po ba un?thanks...

[carwhacko]

not sure of the clogging, but montero and strada are really mausok. our strada pulled down and cleaned last january, now its been pulled down again last month due to black smoke. our hilux never been pulled down, until now no smoke. same diesel same station caltex. after strada service, shifted to shell if it gives the same result. toyota still on caltex. most friends with montero produced smoke few months after purchase.

What is the rationale behind this? Why is that your hilux isnt? What are the differences of our MS/Strada engines to Toyota?

[carwhacko]

mga sirs.. tatanong lng po...during 1K check up..kelangn po ba change oil n rin? anu ano po ba ginagawa nila during 1K check up... change oil na po ba un?thanks...

Yes boss pati filter and check up.

[sirhcacal]

Yes boss pati filter and check up.

sir anu pong recommended oil?at filter? ako po ba mag poprovide ng mga yon? d ba nila covered un?

[carwhacko]

sir anu pong recommended oil?at filter? ako po ba mag poprovide ng mga yon? d ba nila covered un?

San ba casa mo sir? Sa diamond greenhills kasi ako nag 1k PMS. Mineral oil muna ginamit ko from casa pati filter oem. Pero pwde ka magdala ng sarili. Ako balak ko sa 5k pms pa ko magdala. Bale nabayaran ko lahat is 2800 for my 1k PMS

[MonteroGLSV]

sir ako din ang recommend na oil for 1K PMS is fully all from casa, total cost 5400 umuo na lang din ako dahil wla naman me alam in terms sa technical matter.

ang tanong ko po advisable ba na fully na agad ang lagay during 1K PMS?any difference sa mineral oil? TIA...

[carwhacko]

sir ako din ang recommend na oil for 1K PMS is fully all from casa, total cost 5400 umuo na lang din ako dahil wla naman me alam in terms sa technical matter.

ang tanong ko po advisable ba na fully na agad ang lagay during 1K PMS?any difference sa mineral oil? TIA...

Advise kasi ng iba is to use mineral oil muna. It has something to do with the first oil na ginamit ng mitsu sa ms natin which is mineral oil. After that mag fully syn na daw.


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