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    Quote Originally Posted by safeorigin View Post
    Speaking of Magpul...

    Put a CTR stock together with TWS' dogleg rail and fore end in a Vepr and you have yourself the ultimate mid-range AK



    TSD COMBAT SYSTEMS VEPR 7.62x39 CQB RIFLE - TIER 1

    But... in terms of control and weight, Travis Haley's AK-74 (custom built by Rifle Dynamic's Jim Fuller) is full of win

    Sir, me idea ka ba kung saan ako makaka acquire this exact rifle dito sa manila? maski na walang optics thanks in advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetjock View Post
    Sir, me idea ka ba kung saan ako makaka acquire this exact rifle dito sa manila? maski na walang optics thanks in advance
    hindi available yan bro sa pinas. ang available lang sa atin na ak eh yung mga chinese ak's which cost around 50-60k yon nga lang good luck sa ammo. the best thing you can do is buy the chinese ak then buy aftermarket parts to make it look exactly like that.

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    Norinco AK's (MAK-90) aren't bad. Most of which are superior to east european AK's because of the thicker receiver.

    If you do buy one, it would be a good idea to have a copy of "AGI - Building the AK Rifle" DVD or Jim Fuller's AK Armorer's Bench. Have several sheets of sandpaper and smooth out the burrs and action. It's a slow and tedious process but rewarding once you get 1.5-2 MOA groups.

    If you get the sporterized version, consider getting aftermarket stock and grip. If you like ergonomics, there's one from FAB defense but if you like something simple, there's also US palm.

    Might as well change the foregrips to FAB defense polymer with picatinny rails for less weight. You can also use the Ultimak AK rail. Remove the front sight post and gas block. Replace them with either the Bolton Gas Block from Rifle Dynamics or Krebs Custom Front sight gas block. Doing so will cut at least 1 pound of weight in the front.

    For the muzzle, if you want less felt recoil and muzzle climb, there's the AK Battlecomp and Primary arms FSC47.
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    I like AK but I haven't convinced myself to own one yet. I already have an M4 that serves as my sporting rifle and MBR. But the AK simply looks bad ass.

    If I buy an AK, that means I will have to add another caliber to my roster which at this point I am trying to simplify. I have already invested thousands of rounds of my existing calibers (pistols, rifle and shotgun). Mixing an AK round to my current arsenal will just add to confusion when an actual SHTF/WROL breaks out I also don't want a caliber converted frankenrifle. No confidence in using one.

    The only justification I have to get an AK is affordability.
    If I have to choose between the two, what would be best - Izhmash AK-47(Romanian) or Century Arms AK-74 (Bulgarian)?

    What would the advantages between those two as far as: customization, ammo/parts availability and ammo price?

    Will an AK be a good sporting rifle as opposed to an M4? I know training will solve that but what's your take?

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    If you're concerned about the price of rounds, get the AK-74. Surplus 5.45x39 sells at $164.95 for 1080 rounds.

    5.45x39 does have lower penetration but much larger cavitation and better tumbling performance than the 5.56.

    There are *some* problems with century arms AKs in finish and quality(barrel alignment, trunnion alignment, sight alignment). Arsenal AKs tend to be the best out there although you have to pay extra. You may need a some sand paper though if you're obsessed with smoothness. Then slap it with Lithium Grease.

    If you want a 5.56 AK, you can get the polish Archer(Beryl).

    If you really want 7.62x39, it tends to shine when penetration is needed and you're preparing to fight in woodlands with heavy vegetation(Vietnam like). 5.56 and 5.45 tend to be deflect by leaves and wood. 7.62x39 AKs tend to have more variety in accessories(magazine & muzzle device).
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    Quote Originally Posted by foresterx View Post
    hindi available yan bro sa pinas. ang available lang sa atin na ak eh yung mga chinese ak's which cost around 50-60k yon nga lang good luck sa ammo. the best thing you can do is buy the chinese ak then buy aftermarket parts to make it look exactly like that.
    Bro kung order from the US, masyado ba magastos sa tax? Ganda nito eh.



    I'm a big fan of a more refined AK-47.

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    The TSD VEPR rifle is no longer available.

    You can, however, get the *most refined* production AK for $1850. * almost 6 lbs

    RD 500/700



    that's the one from the video in the previous page.

    Krebs custom AKs are much more expensive and heavier.
    Last edited by safeorigin; September 15th, 2012 at 10:34 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Bro kung order from the US, masyado ba magastos sa tax? Ganda nito eh.



    I'm a big fan of a more refined AK-47.
    yes mas mahal yan pag galing us at goodluck trying to find someone who'll want to ship it here.:bwahaha: anyway mas mura pa kung bibili ka na lang accessories para jan. for me an ak is supposed to be kept stock and not riced out, kung gusto mo mga bling bling sa baril mag m4/m16 ka na lang.

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    "An AK is not an M4. Keep it simple" -Larry Vickers

    Says the man who runs an optic in his AK. So yeah, put at least an Ultimak rail on it. Or just use the side rail mounted optics.
    Last edited by safeorigin; September 16th, 2012 at 02:38 AM.
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    and in if you look at the bigger picture, it's impossible to own an AK in true stock form in the US. They have to have US aftermarket parts to be 922r compliant :S
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    Quote Originally Posted by foresterx View Post
    yes mas mahal yan pag galing us at goodluck trying to find someone who'll want to ship it here.:bwahaha: anyway mas mura pa kung bibili ka na lang accessories para jan. for me an ak is supposed to be kept stock and not riced out, kung gusto mo mga bling bling sa baril mag m4/m16 ka na lang.
    Quote Originally Posted by safeorigin View Post
    "An AK is not an M4. Keep it simple" -Larry Vickers

    Says the man who runs an optic in his AK. So yeah, put at least an Ultimak rail on it. Or just use the side rail mounted optics.
    hehe, hindi naman bing bling pero yeah, a stock very high-quality Ak-47 na lang siguro plus optic sights.

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    Don't need a quad rail in an AK to be honest. It just puts unnecessary weight :/

    One or two is enough ^^
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