World Oil Production Passed its Peak?

**mazdamazda** · February 20th, 2006 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by EL Chicane

I think this is the last 100 years for fossil fuel technology. I'm sure we will be hydrogen-based by the turn of the century.

hydrogen is still not feasible since the energy needed to breakdown water into hydrogen (electrolysis) is still higher than the energy that we'll get from using hydrogen as fuel.

BUT, if a new techological breakthrough is discovered wherein we can split water to hydrogen in a fraction of the energy electrolysis takes up, then we'll be back in business.

**mazdamazda** · February 20th, 2006 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by RafRaf

diesel powered ships - BIODIESEL
jet fuel (ester) - COCO METHYL ESTER... BIODIESEL
diesel powered delivery vans and trucks - BIODIESEL

actually, biofuels are an inefficient form of energy compared to oil.

it takes 1 energy unit to produce 2 energy units of biofuel. while it takes 1 energy unit to produce 30 energy units of oil.

though at least, biofuels is a more viable alternative that others... though this might force countries to go back to their agricultural roots again.

**BlueBimmer** · February 20th, 2006 12:09 PM

perhaps a nuclear powered engine will be invented in the future :D

**pajerokid** · February 20th, 2006 12:24 PM

hehe. flux capacitor lang kelangan nyo

**uls** · February 20th, 2006 12:29 PM

plant-derived fuel cannot be produced on the same volume as fossil fuel.

commercial quantity is in the millions of barrels a day for world consumption.

plant-derived fuel production doesnt even come close.

**empy** · February 20th, 2006 12:33 PM

sabi ko na nga ba eh

**niky** · February 20th, 2006 01:06 PM

True, Brazilian biofuels are seasonal, at best. And prices fluctuate with the growing season.

And unlike many countries, Brazil actually has the agricultural capacity to produce its own biofuels.

Nuclear engines are not an answer either. Fissionable materials are a limited natural resource, and fusion is still a distant dream.

Solar is part of the future. But it's still too expensive. Hydroelectrics, Hydrothermic and Geothermic resources need to be developed to redress the balance.

And again, the hydrogen economy is a false one, because you still use other resources to produce hydrogen in usable form.

**EL Chicane** · February 20th, 2006 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by niky

And again, the hydrogen economy is a false one, because you still use other resources to produce hydrogen in usable form.

That "other resources" needed to produce hydrogen, can be nuclear power, in which America has. The key here is for America to eliminate dependence on oil. How can that be false?

**Karding** · February 20th, 2006 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by badkuk

sabi nga sa shell commercial: Better to anticipate change, than be forced to accept it

nice one.

The real reason no new refineries have been built for almost 30 years is simple: any oil company that wants to stay profitable isn't going to invest in new refineries when they know there is going to be less and less oil to refine.

ahh, for so long I was wondering why.

uls, thanks for the http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/ link

US DOE will finally decide on 2015 if Fuel Cell is viable. As a matter of fact, it's not that California/US is just sitting on their behind and laughing about the oil issue or just enjoying the war to spend $300billion. Although some people or tsikoteers believe that US/Americans are war freak or the real terrorists.

Automobile manufacturers need to produce and certify the fuel cell car in which some of them are in the process of producing fuel cell cars. Afterall, whats the use of refueling stations if manufacturers does not offer the fuel cell car in the first place.

The Los Angeles International Airport will be the site of the first compressed-hydrogen fueling station open for public use. The $1.5 million facility built by Praxair will be a prototype of a commercial automobile fueling station and is slated to open this year. California governor Arnold Schwarzenegger is putting together a plan to build a "Hydrogen Highway," an effort that is supported by the California South Coast Air Quality Management District and the California Fuel Cell Partnership, a private-public venture dedicated to demonstrating fuel cell technology in the state. Founded in 1999, the partnership has both passenger cars and transit buses in its fuel cell demonstration fleet, including vehicles from DaimlerChrysler, Ford, General Motors, Honda, Hyundai, Nissan, Toyota and Volkswagen.

A very good read.
http://www.edmunds.com/advice/specia...9/article.html

**Bogeyman** · February 20th, 2006 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by EL Chicane

That "other resources" needed to produce hydrogen, can be nuclear power, in which America has. The key here is for America to eliminate dependence on oil. How can that be false?

As niky said, the materials needed for nuclear fission i.e. uranium and plutonium are already scarce enough as it is, more so than oil. Nuclear fusion will not be viable for at least the foreseeable future. Lugi lang ang US economy kasi mas malaki ang magagastos nila for nuclear energy, not to mention it being downright dangerous. It's not exactly a sustainable energy alternative.